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directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:23 PM

ok, the article says " arrest " , but it obviously is more of a kidnapping that the one of the " SOLDIERS " !!!!

He is an elected official, you know, those elections that the USA and its monkey wanted so much ....

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Security forces take Dweik from home, say he is leader of terrorist group

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Israeli security forces detained Palestinian parliamentary speaker Aziz Dweik, a leader of the governing Hamas movement, in a raid on his West Bank home on Sunday.

?We were sitting home peacefully, normally. Then we heard knocking on the door, which surprised and shocked us because the knocking was so loud,? his wife told Reuters in the West Bank city of Ramallah after the night-time arrest.

?He went down because the army was there. He opened the door. They saw him in his pajamas and asked him to go with them. He asked for his clothes, and I brought them.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14204638/

Arab elected politician = arrest
Isreali soldier = kidnapped

$5 submissions · 08-05-2006, 05:25 PM

Should be interesting to see how this develops further....

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Arab elected politician = arrest
Isreali soldier = kidnapped

Israel is a recognized political state. Hamas is not.

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Israel is a recognized political state. Hamas is not.

Yappo.

Hamas will NEVER be a " recognized political state " dimbo .... It is a POLITICAL ORGANISATION ...

Get with the program or take night courses ....

Lazonby · 08-05-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

ok, the article says " arrest " , but it obviously is more of a kidnapping that the one of the " SOLDIERS " !!!!

He is an elected official, you know, those elections that the USA and its monkey wanted so much ....

Arab elected politician = arrest
Isreali soldier = kidnapped

Another enlightened directfiesta post.

So, if I was elected then tried to kill your kids, if I was arrested it would be wrong?

I don't expect a coherent answer.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Another enlightened directfiesta post.

So, if I was elected then tried to kill your kids, if I was arrested it would be wrong?

I don't expect a coherent answer.

no coherent answer possible to a incoherent question or drivel ...

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Hamas will NEVER be a " recognized political state " dimbo .... It is a POLITICAL ORGANISATION ...

Get with the program or take night courses ....

I'm curious... does calling other people names and making insults make you feel better about your own ignorance?

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm curious... does calling other people names and making insults make you feel better about your own ignorance?

Yappo.

lol ... name calling ... you must be kidding ..

Is that all you have to mop up your ignorance ?

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Hamas will NEVER be a " recognized political state " dimbo .... It is a POLITICAL ORGANISATION ...

Get with the program or take night courses ....

And to follow this up, you're right, Hamas never will be a political state because its a radical group. Being a radical group, they aren't a sovereign state. When a radical group and a true sovereign state are fighting each other, yes there will be differences between kidnapping and arresting. The radical group does not have real State power, therefore they have no power to arrest, so they kidnap. The Sovereign state does have power to arrest, so they do.

The current battle in the Gaza Strip started in mid-late June after Hamas kidnapped Israeli soldiers.

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm curious... does calling other people names and making insults make you feel better about your own ignorance?

Yappo.

dimbo = No entry found for dimbo.
yappo = No entry found for yappo.

" I will take insults for 200.00 "

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

And to follow this up, you're right, Hamas never will be a political state because its a radical group. Being a radical group, they aren't a sovereign state. When a radical group and a true sovereign state are fighting each other, yes there will be differences between kidnapping and arresting. The radical group does not have real State power, therefore they have no power to arrest, so they kidnap. The Sovereign state does have power to arrest, so they do.

The current battle in the Gaza Strip started in mid-late June after Hamas kidnapped Israeli soldiers.

Yappo.

are you drunk ... How can a " radical ", " non-radical " or " political party " BECOME ( ???) a state ....

Are you telling me that the GOP has become a state ...

You really are a clueless blind man ....

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol ... name calling ... you must be kidding ..

Is that all you have to mop up your ignorance ?

My ignorance? I'm stating facts and information. You're crying that Israel can arrest Hamas leaders and get away with it while Hamas can only kidnap. If you can't see the difference between the Israeli State and the Hamas (political organization), thats your own problem.

The KKK is also a political organization. I don't see them arresting those bad black folk. Boohoo.

Yappo.

BusterBunny · 08-05-2006, 05:46 PM

buster was here

Rochard · 08-05-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

And to follow this up, you're right, Hamas never will be a political state because its a radical group.

Last time I checked, Hamas was in fact a poliltcal state - being demcratically elected. No one seems to understand the implications of this.... A terrorist group is now running an entire country.

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

are you drunk ... How can a " radical ", " non-radical " or " political party " BECOME ( ???) a state ....

Are you telling me that the GOP has become a state ...

You really are a clueless blind man ....

Um. Hamas isn't going to become a sovereign State. That was my point. Individual political organizations do not have the power a sovereign State does.

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

My ignorance? I'm stating facts and information. You're crying that Israel can arrest Hamas leaders and get away with it while Hamas can only kidnap. If you can't see the difference between the Israeli State and the Hamas (political organization), thats your own problem.

The KKK is also a political organization. I don't see them arresting those bad black folk. Boohoo.

Yappo.

As I said, you are an idiot ( that is a diagnostivc, not name calling )...

Has the KKK ever been elected to parliament .... and are not a political organisation ...

If they would have been , and elected, their rights to represent their constituents would have been protected by the American Constitution ....

This man was taken from his home because he is an elected official ...as the others ...

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Hamas was in fact a poliltcal state - being demcratically elected. No one seems to understand the implications of this.... A terrorist group is now running an entire country.

Define a " political State " ... Then link to an article stating that , and I quote :

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Hamas was in fact a poliltcal state

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:54 PM

Ok, I just read up on a couple things and had a few facts wrong. I'll admit that.

Instead of calling me an idiot why didn't you just show me a little more information? Calling people names isn't going to educate them.

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Um. Hamas isn't going to become a sovereign State. That was my point. Individual political organizations do not have the power a sovereign State does.

Yappo.

your point ... ???? took you quite a while, even debating this :

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Hamas will NEVER be a " recognized political state " dimbo .... It is a POLITICAL ORGANISATION ...

Get with the program or take night courses ....

It is sad to see the very little education that is offered in the USA ....

tony286 · 08-05-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Last time I checked, Hamas was in fact a poliltcal state - being demcratically elected. No one seems to understand the implications of this.... A terrorist group is now running an entire country.

Hey everyone wanted them to be able to vote and they voted. Maybe voting is not good in all countries lol

Sly · 08-05-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Define a " political State " ... Then link to an article stating that , and I quote :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

First few paragraphs mention how Hamas was politically elected and maintains over 50% of the power. They have power and were elected in. That makes it a political State more or less. An elected government is ran by a radical Muslim terrorist organization, sweet.

Yappo.

Sly · 08-05-2006, 06:01 PM

First you're calling me an idiot because I said Hamas wasn't a political state. Now you're arguing because we're saying Hamas is a political state.

Is this "argue with Americans day" up there in Frenchland?

Yappo.

Sly · 08-05-2006, 06:04 PM

Here is one of many definitions of State:
A specific mode of government: the socialist state

Socialist could be replaced with just about anything.

Yappo.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
They have power and were elected in. That makes it a political State more or less.

Hamas IS a political organization, have been elected, so they have power .. I think that is how it works in a democracy ... Does it work like that in the USA ??? I am not so familiar ....

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Originally Posted by Sly

That makes it a political State more or less.

Says who ???? You ???? it is not even LESS, but not at all ....

So Ciccollina ( porn star ) was elected to parliament in Italy, so she became a " Political State " .... please ...

A state is a sdtate ... that is it ... and many states together become the UNITED STATES of ....

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

First you're calling me an idiot because I said Hamas wasn't a political state.

Yappo ... where ... please quote ... I will :

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Hamas will NEVER be a " recognized political state "

Lazonby · 08-05-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Last time I checked, Hamas was in fact a poliltcal state - being demcratically elected. No one seems to understand the implications of this.... A terrorist group is now running an entire country.

Wrong. The Gaza strip is not a country.

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:11 PM

Well entire Hamas minsters are in the israeli jail , so another one doesn't really change anything . These cavemen fucks should be locked behind bars for good , the world will look much better place without them .

Lazonby · 08-05-2006, 06:12 PM

directfiesta has suffered a small amont of ownage in this thread thus far and it is the prediction that he will be owned further, as is usual in the threads he posts in.

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elron

Well entire Hamas minsters are in the israeli jail , so another one doesn't really change anything . These cavemen fucks should be locked behind bars for good , the world will look much better place without them .

So I presume that you are against democratic election .... unless your people get in ....

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

directfiesta has suffered a small amont of ownage in this thread thus far and it is the prediction that he will be owned further, as is usual in the threads he posts in.

Obviously, you are reading impaired...

Go get kidnapped, oups, I meant captured ....

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

directfiesta has suffered a small amont of ownage in this thread thus far and it is the prediction that he will be owned further, as is usual in the threads he posts in.

BTW, quote where I am wrong .. .have fun ...

Sly · 08-05-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

A state is a sdtate ... that is it ... and many states together become the UNITED STATES of ....

I'm sorry. You're wrong. A "State" is a very, very broad array of entities.

North America is a state. The United States as a whole is a state. California is a state. San Diego is a state. The University of San Diego is a state. The Political Science department at the University of San Diego is a state. An elected group is a legal entity, therefore they too qualify as a state.

Go ask any political science professor and they'll tell you the same thing. I'm not making this up.

Yappo.

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

So I presume that you are against democratic election .... unless your people get in ....

hitler was also elected by democtatic elections .

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm sorry. You're wrong. A "State" is a very, very broad array of entities.

North America is a state. The United States as a whole is a state. California is a state. San Diego is a state. The University of San Diego is a state. The Political Science department at the University of San Diego is a state. An elected group is a legal entity, therefore they too qualify as a state.

Go ask any political science professor and they'll tell you the same thing. I'm not making this up.

Yappo.

North America is a continent
United States ( of America I presume ) is a country
California is a state
University of San Diego is an university ( duh,,,, )
Political Science departent of ... is a department
An elected group is a political party in power

Otherwise, GFY is a STATE

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Arab elected politician = arrest
Isreali soldier = kidnapped

I hope next time a cop arrest you for being complete dumb in the street you wont yell "im being kidnapped"

seven · 08-05-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

So I presume that you are against democratic election .... unless your people get in ....

I'm assuming he'd like to see a Jewish terrorist party being elected there instead.. oh wait.. if it'd be jewish could never be terrorists.. history is wrong needs to be rewritten

seven · 08-05-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elron

I hope next time a cop arrest you for being complete dumb in the street you wont yell "im being kidnapped"

captured in the same country by law enforcement=arrest
captured from another country by military force=kidnap

otherwise, CIA would feel VERY free.. oh wait.. they already do

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elron

I hope next time a cop arrest you for being complete dumb in the street you wont yell "im being kidnapped"

never will ... never did .... more chances with you ...

Lazonby · 08-05-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

BTW, quote where I am wrong .. .have fun ...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=641346

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

captured in the same country by law enforcement=arrest

that's exactly what happened to that hamas dude . he was arrested in jerusalem , that's israel .

Lykos · 08-05-2006, 06:42 PM

thats bs....

pocketkangaroo · 08-05-2006, 06:44 PM

Breaking law in someone's country = Arrest
Coming in and taking an innocent person = Kidnapping

Not sure how this is hard to understand.

seven · 08-05-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elron

that's exactly what happened to that hamas dude . he was arrested in jerusalem , that's israel .

did pick pocket someone's pocket while in Jerusalem? hang on gotta get an update from msn.

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lykos

thats bs....

If you ask me what bs is , it's a reply from a guy like you with 2 words , and size 7 red fonts covering my entire freaking sreen signature . that's bs , not the thread . get it moron ?

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=641346

LOL .... Sure, show this thread .. then show where I am wrong .. that Hamas is a State and so on ...

BTW, I never see you post anything but support to Israel .. Are you by any chance a MOSSAD agent ...

elron · 08-05-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

did pick pocket someone's pocket while in Jerusalem? hang on gotta get an update from msn.

much worse , leading terror group who killed 1000's of childrens and women in busses and restaurants .
Belive me , if one of the victims was your family member , you wouldn't be inlove with these cavemen as much as you are now .

directfiesta · 08-05-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elron

much worse , leading terror group who killed 1000's of childrens and women in busses and restaurants .
Belive me , if one of the victims was your family member , you wouldn't be inlove with these cavemen as much as you are now .

Sounds like Saddam ... shit, he was cloned !

detoxed · 08-05-2006, 07:03 PM

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elron · 08-05-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Sounds like Saddam ... shit, he was cloned !

i bet you would set him free off his trial if you could

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