So, How Are You All Doing With AFF & Cams.com? - GoFuckYourself.com

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 12:19 AM

Hello everyone. I am just curious to see to see how are you affiliates are doing with AFF or Cams.com. As of today are the conversions still good? Is there a slow down? Or, is everything still steady?

I am almost ready to do a heavy promotion campaign for Passion.com (AFF & Cams are a bit much for me). I hope I don't loose to much money.

Basically, just trying to see are conversions still going strong for the Friendfinder Family of sites.

Thanks

martinsc · 08-01-2006, 12:22 AM

i am happy with aff... never tried cams.com though.

pocketkangaroo · 08-01-2006, 12:25 AM

Cams.com isn't doing too well for me. AFF has always been solid.

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 12:26 AM

Martin do you run Traffic Holder? If you do, do you think a site like Passion.com can convert well with your traffic?

Thanks

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 12:28 AM

Someone in another forum was stating to me that he can't get anyone to sign up for a membership for Cams.com. He has a whole load of free sign ups though, but no paid members.

Digipimp · 08-01-2006, 12:31 AM

my free signups have dropped by half or 2/3's in the last month or so and i dont know why

ER!C L!VE · 08-01-2006, 12:32 AM

I do well with AFF and Cams.com

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 12:35 AM

Er!C Live, how long does it take for your free members to become paid members?

Thanks

LiveDose · 08-01-2006, 12:36 AM

Those sites even convert non targeted traffic...

pocketkangaroo · 08-01-2006, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

Someone in another forum was stating to me that he can't get anyone to sign up for a membership for Cams.com. He has a whole load of free sign ups though, but no paid members.

I'm in the same boat. I'm also using SE traffic.

Cams.com 1:1,426
PussyCash 1:149
Webcams.com 1:289
AWE 1:113
MoneyTree 1:71

martinsc · 08-01-2006, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

Martin do you run Traffic Holder? If you do, do you think a site like Passion.com can convert well with your traffic?

Thanks

i don't run it, but use it

never tried it though to aff...

NastyGodCash · 08-01-2006, 01:43 AM

1:279 at aff, still working great for me, but cams.com sux for me 1:2200 or somthing like that. i am using iframe banners on my TGP

UtahSaints · 08-01-2006, 01:47 AM

1: 370 for Cams.. upsells from member zone

WiredGuy · 08-01-2006, 01:58 AM

I do well with AFF, never tried Cams.com
WG

fris · 08-01-2006, 02:09 AM

82 signups for cams.com in the last 4 days

poondaddy · 08-01-2006, 02:18 AM

0:3384 for Cams.com
57 Free Sign-ups

polle54 · 08-01-2006, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

Martin do you run Traffic Holder? If you do, do you think a site like Passion.com can convert well with your traffic?

Thanks

hit me up if you wanna chat

Wiggles · 08-01-2006, 02:53 AM

just started cams.com, no deposits yet but a few free joins, so we'll see.

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 03:15 AM

Nice Fris

babymaker · 08-01-2006, 03:22 AM

cams was doing good again and now dropped the last couple of weeks..free sign ups to paid has always been way off tho

way off

Tuga · 08-01-2006, 03:48 AM

AFF is getting worst and worst

babymaker · 08-01-2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

AFF is getting worst and worst

they jus sent me an email the other day saying i was converted to revshare lol .....nice....don't really promote them anyway just cams.com but i mostly sell ccbill and i know my avg retention on my sign-ups is well over a year i have a majority of my sign-ups going on 2+ years bunch of shit lol.......

sex69 · 08-01-2006, 04:04 AM

They work well for me, especially aff

Kevsh · 08-01-2006, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I'm in the same boat. I'm also using SE traffic.

Cams.com 1:1,426
PussyCash 1:149
Webcams.com 1:289
AWE 1:113
MoneyTree 1:71

These numbers seem to be what I'd expect - AWE and MoneyTree definetly convert at a high rate. Cams.com seems to be lower, but I do think you can snag some whales there ... the Per Minute rate can be very high for some performers which means more long-term $ for you vs. most of the other sites.

I find the same goes with Flirt4Free - lower conversion but very good retention and relatively high % of whales.

Adultboss · 08-01-2006, 11:22 AM

cams 7831 hits 383 free members 1 SU

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 03:10 PM

If I may ask, what is the problem with some free members not wanting to pay for Cams.com? What are some factors?

Thanks

madawgz · 08-01-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS-MEDIA

1: 370 for Cams.. upsells from member zone

pretty good

Mr. Romance · 08-01-2006, 03:15 PM

They are the best

Mr. Romance

Mr Pheer · 08-01-2006, 03:18 PM

10,926 joins to AFF in July for me... a new personal record
132,054 joins total... and about half million bucks in my pocket... thanks AFF

I sent a couple hundred free signups to cams.com but when it produced zero dollars, I pulled the traffic

spideriux · 08-01-2006, 03:20 PM

AFF is da best for me

tttcash · 08-01-2006, 03:25 PM

Mr.Pheer out of 10,000 for AFF, how many became paying members?

Thanks

Babagirls · 08-01-2006, 03:25 PM

since Cams.com merged with AFF, i've all my sales stopped, i've been stuck at $43 for several months.

% Program: 3452 uniques, 66 members, 52 uniques per Free Signup, no sales.
PPS: 319 uniques, 6 members, no sales.

*thumbsdown*

jayeff · 08-01-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker

they jus sent me an email the other day saying i was converted to revshare lol .....nice....don't really promote them anyway just cams.com but i mostly sell ccbill and i know my avg retention on my sign-ups is well over a year i have a majority of my sign-ups going on 2+ years bunch of shit lol.......

In 1998 I was at 1:15 on free signups with AFF, so within the limit for conversion to revshare. Today I'm on 1:40 and still worsening and I have been on revshare for years.

But... you may want to look a bit deeper into your stats because in 1998 I was earning about 4 cents per unique IP. These days it is almost 10 cents.

cams.com went down the toilet when it teamed up with AFF. I have no idea why.

pocketkangaroo · 08-01-2006, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

If I may ask, what is the problem with some free members not wanting to pay for Cams.com? What are some factors?

Thanks

Unenthusiastic girls, high prices, etc. On some sites the girls are very active in selling the guy to private chats. On others they don't really seem to care.

bdld · 08-01-2006, 04:43 PM

can i link the join page of cams.com?

Kevsh · 08-01-2006, 04:58 PM

btw, i've said before but I'll repeat here:

Don't obsess over conversion rates! (Unless it's a PPS program of course...)
With revshare the only thing that matters is how much profit you make, whether you convert 1:1500 or 1:10. If you want me to expand this reasoning I'd be glad to!

spacedog · 08-01-2006, 04:58 PM

like shit, how else.

Jarmusch · 08-01-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld

can i link the join page of cams.com?

Put +reg at the end of the url.

Mr Pheer · 08-01-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

Mr.Pheer out of 10,000 for AFF, how many became paying members?

Thanks

how should I know? they wont give us detailed stats like that

Spunky · 08-01-2006, 05:15 PM

Cams.com is the better of the 2 for me

Jarmusch · 08-01-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

If I may ask, what is the problem with some free members not wanting to pay for Cams.com? What are some factors?

Try using their site in surfer mode for a while.
If you don't have credits, most girls won't even give you a 'hello' back.
However, walk in the room with credits and they'll say 'hi wanna play?' before you even say anything.

That's my theory on why cams.com does so bad; the models don't work towards making paying customers out of new visitors, they only focus on getting the proven paying customers to go private with them. I bet many 1st time visitors walk away disgruntled thinking all the shows were recorded because they couldn't get an answer out of the girls.

mopek1 · 08-01-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

btw, i've said before but I'll repeat here:

Don't obsess over conversion rates! (Unless it's a PPS program of course...)
With revshare the only thing that matters is how much profit you make, whether you convert 1:1500 or 1:10. If you want me to expand this reasoning I'd be glad to!

I agree.

In that case 2 years ago I was making $0.15 cents per unique with AFF
This year's average has been $0.03 cents per unique.
[Revshare- Same traffic sources (SE) ]

This tells me they don't convert like they used too. Still a good program for me though.

mopek1

pocketkangaroo · 08-01-2006, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Try using their site in surfer mode for a while.
If you don't have credits, most girls won't even give you a 'hello' back.
However, walk in the room with credits and they'll say 'hi wanna play?' before you even say anything.

That's my theory on why cams.com does so bad; the models don't work towards making paying customers out of new visitors, they only focus on getting the proven paying customers to go private with them. I bet many 1st time visitors walk away disgruntled thinking all the shows were recorded because they couldn't get an answer out of the girls.

It's a tough balancing act though. If they talked to every freeloader in the chat, they'd be non-stop. Most guys just want a free look.

I do think that they should put a timer on the free chat for those without credits (or atleast those who have never bought credits in the past). Make it a minute for each girl.

Jarmusch · 08-01-2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

It's a tough balancing act though. If they talked to every freeloader in the chat, they'd be non-stop. Most guys just want a free look.

Take the other webcam programs, like AWE for example, the girls there take to the time to chat with the freeloaders, sometimes even only a 'hi joe' is enough. No wonder other programs convert so much better.

HouseHead · 08-01-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Cams.com is the better of the 2 for me

This is true yes

BVF · 08-01-2006, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker

they jus sent me an email the other day saying i was converted to revshare

It's not your traffic..it's the surfers who join up and find out that the standard members can't contact you unless you pay extra..You can't give your personal email address in a message to ANY member EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE A FUCKING PAYING MEMBER, they edit the shit out of your profile pics while you see other profiles with dicks and twats taking up their picture space..It's signing up for the 19.95 plan and getting charged 149.95 for a gold membership to where I had to call customer service and get it fixed..

That's just stuff within their control...Then you gotta deal with the 2-3 ACTUAL females in your area that aren't fake profiles or "standard" profiles where a bitch may have signed up for a free membership years ago and never logged in again, that will log in and get hit with a flood of THOUSANDS of men in the same area.. This in turn letting ugly bitches think they're superstars, the "cliques" that have formed in the AFF chatrooms where people aren't even trying to fuck, they just want to sit there and say *hugs* to other people that they're sure that they're far enough away so that they never have to meet them, etc. etc...

THAT'S why you got switched to recurring...

Miguel T · 08-01-2006, 06:13 PM

Was better before...

pr0 · 08-01-2006, 06:43 PM

Cams & AFF are solid...if you're looking for alternatives though...& the great team at AFF can't get you fixed up (which im sure they can) check out the top link in my sig....it uses the tricams system (the old mtree backend)...with some hot revshare action.

Worldnet · 08-01-2006, 07:04 PM

AFF was great, but has dropped recently. Cams.com is real slow.

teksonline · 08-01-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tttcash

If I may ask, what is the problem with some free members not wanting to pay for Cams.com? What are some factors?

Thanks

It's their website, #1 the images are always broken, or break daily... it's bufugly to being with, with gradeschool graphics..

08-01-2006, 12:22 AM	#2
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08-01-2006, 12:36 AM	#9
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08-01-2006, 01:43 AM	#12
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08-01-2006, 12:19 AM	#1
tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	So, How Are You All Doing With AFF & Cams.com? Hello everyone. I am just curious to see to see how are you affiliates are doing with AFF or Cams.com. As of today are the conversions still good? Is there a slow down? Or, is everything still steady? I am almost ready to do a heavy promotion campaign for Passion.com (AFF & Cams are a bit much for me). I hope I don't loose to much money. Basically, just trying to see are conversions still going strong for the Friendfinder Family of sites. Thanks

08-01-2006, 12:25 AM	#3
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Cams.com isn't doing too well for me. AFF has always been solid.

08-01-2006, 12:26 AM	#4
tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	Martin do you run Traffic Holder? If you do, do you think a site like Passion.com can convert well with your traffic? Thanks

08-01-2006, 12:28 AM	#5
tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	Someone in another forum was stating to me that he can't get anyone to sign up for a membership for Cams.com. He has a whole load of free sign ups though, but no paid members.

08-01-2006, 12:35 AM	#8
tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	Er!C Live, how long does it take for your free members to become paid members? Thanks

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tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	If I may ask, what is the problem with some free members not wanting to pay for Cams.com? What are some factors? Thanks

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08-01-2006, 03:18 PM	#29
Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,582	10,926 joins to AFF in July for me... a new personal record 132,054 joins total... and about half million bucks in my pocket... thanks AFF I sent a couple hundred free signups to cams.com but when it produced zero dollars, I pulled the traffic

08-01-2006, 03:20 PM	#30
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08-01-2006, 03:25 PM	#31
tttcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 226	Mr.Pheer out of 10,000 for AFF, how many became paying members? Thanks

08-01-2006, 03:25 PM	#32
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	since Cams.com merged with AFF, i've all my sales stopped, i've been stuck at $43 for several months. % Program: 3452 uniques, 66 members, 52 uniques per Free Signup, no sales. PPS: 319 uniques, 6 members, no sales. thumbsdown __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500 Last edited by Babagirls; 08-01-2006 at 03:28 PM..

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08-01-2006, 04:58 PM	#36
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	btw, i've said before but I'll repeat here: Don't obsess over conversion rates! (Unless it's a PPS program of course...) With revshare the only thing that matters is how much profit you make, whether you convert 1:1500 or 1:10. If you want me to expand this reasoning I'd be glad to!

08-01-2006, 04:58 PM	#37
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08-01-2006, 06:43 PM	#48
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08-01-2006, 07:04 PM	#49
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	AFF was great, but has dropped recently. Cams.com is real slow.