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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #51
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #52
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Oh, Israel should respond. Just not this way. A more limited response - including not going for those Hezbollah targets with the highest likelihood for a large number of civilian casualties -
Close to a million people have moved out of Southern Lebanon. Lebanon has just under 4 million people. A quarter of the entire countries population has moved out of Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah has more than enough room to operate without being anywhere near "large numbers of civilians", and yet somehow, the "large number of civilians" are getting struck every 3 days.

I hear what you're saying, but at the same time I'm sitting here scratching my head. Your recommended solutions haven't worked, at all. Hezbollah was already supposed to be unarmed, nobody needs to plead with the Lebanese government, they already wanted it. There are over 2000 UN "observers" already monitoring the border. And finally a huge portion of Southern Lebanon has nobody left, and yet amazingly the "Freedom Fighters" can't fight without putting their own people in danger.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #53
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Stop man, im on your side here.

But you fuel all the anti-semites here when you use Jews instead of Israelies.
Well I don't really think the anti-semites need any fueling, but point taken.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:30 PM   #54
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Right because Hezbollah has actually military bases and aren't scum who hide thier arsenal of weapons in daycares and apartments.


Im sure some tool on gfy has better militarty intellgence to where Hezbollah hides then the actually IDF.
You should learn how to read, mr "Didn't the roman christians kill Jesus?".

Most attacks on Hezbollah would cause civilian casualties, but in varying numbers. What I pointed out is that going for those targets with the highest amounts of civilian casualties has a political and social backlash that more than offsets any possible military gains.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:34 PM   #55
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Israel has every right to defend itself from terrorists so quit all your fucking boo-hooing over the collateral damage.
Do you think Hezbollah gives a flying fuck if their rockets kill Israeli civilians?

Let the Jews kick the shit out of these dumb ass towel heads once and for all and get it over with.
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Awwww poor baby, are your terrorist buddies getting their asses kicked?
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:37 PM   #57
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I highly doubt Israel was ever afraid of Hezbollah destroying them.
If history repeated that's exactly how Israel could go down. is how they came to existence is how they could go. so gotta be careful
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:39 PM   #58
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I don't think I've ever seen this Lenny2 character say something so ignorant. For some reason I had it in my head that you were a smart man. Now it's obvious that you let your thinking be clouded by your emotions, at least in this case. The first sign of an ideologue.

Yes, these people are inherently evil, and we're good. We kill for freedom and democracy, they kill because they're evil and they like killing people. They have no right to resist increasing Israeli occupation, no right to resist American financial control, and no right to retaliate when Israel takes hostages. There will be peace in the middle east as soon as we kill the entire indigenous population. Great plan. Get the gas chambers ready, and start digging the mass graves.
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Eitan Shishkoff, the leader of a Messianic community in Haifa, located about 70 miles north of Jerusalem, says that there are roughly 10,000 members in 80 Messianic congregations around the country.

The population is twice that of 1980?s, when significant numbers of immigrants from the former Soviet Union began entering the country, according to the Jerusalem Post. Shishkoff says that 70 percent of the members in his congregation of 270 are from the Soviet Union.

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It's time that we stop putting blame on any one group and start to focus on understanding both sides...that's the first step in accomplishing peace in the Middle East. Efforts should be made on cultural understanding and education campaigns, not war campaigns. Whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon or Iran...the US and Israel are only treating the symptoms of the problem instead of getting to the root.
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Well this time around it was Lebanese Hezbollah who kidnapped two Israeli soldiers, and Israel's military offensive is a response to that.
The Lebanese government is a powerless joke and they can't police their own people, so the Jews are going to kick some ass in their stead.
Your a moron. If everyone applied your logic, the world would have been blown up a long time ago.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:42 PM   #61
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Awwww poor baby, are your terrorist buddies getting their asses kicked?
No, I just think that you are an asshole and you don't know anything about me, but I can tell alot about you by your posts.
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Close to a million people have moved out of Southern Lebanon. Lebanon has just under 4 million people. A quarter of the entire countries population has moved out of Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah has more than enough room to operate without being anywhere near "large numbers of civilians", and yet somehow, the "large number of civilians" are getting struck every 3 days.

I hear what you're saying, but at the same time I'm sitting here scratching my head. Your recommended solutions haven't worked, at all. Hezbollah was already supposed to be unarmed, nobody needs to plead with the Lebanese government, they already wanted it. There are over 2000 UN "observers" already monitoring the border. And finally a huge portion of Southern Lebanon has nobody left, and yet amazingly the "Freedom Fighters" can't fight without putting their own people in danger.
Many people in Lebanon can't or won't move away, and Hezbollah takes advantage of that. It may not be fair, but it is reality. Nobody is accusing Hezbollah of having any regard for the lives of the Lebanese. What is also reality, though, is that some actions against Hezbollah have more potential for civilian casualties than others, that Israel also engages in those actions with a very large potential for large numbers of civilian casualties, and that this ultimately harms Israels cause.

As for my solutions, they wouldn't work immediately, and probably not entirely either. However, a more limited response from Israel combined with the other things I mentioned would have ensured a larger (and, presumably, more effective) peacekeeping force from the UN, as well as increased efforts on the part of the Lebanese government to disarm Hezbollah. Those things would have a large positive effect. Meanwhile, the current strategy Israel is pursuing is winning over thousands of Lebanese for Hezbollah, and it has very little chance of structurally hurting Hezbollah.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:51 PM   #63
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I highly doubt Israel was ever afraid of Hezbollah destroying them.

Israel and Iran are arch enemies. This is obvious. Hezbollah and Iran are fuck buddies. This too is obvious. Iran is feeding Hezbollah with money and equipment and has for years. With no intervention, that stockpile will only continue to grow. That is evidenced by a few of the recent rockets fired deep into Israel by Hezbollah.

Israel does not want that stockpile to grow, for obvious reasons. Sitting down and having a nice chat about the issue over tea and crumpets is not going to deplete that stockpile anymore than telling Iran to stop their uranium enrichment program is going to actually make them stop without force.
What terrorist organizations depend on, even more than they do on weapons and money, is hatred. In a way, Israel is supplying Hezbollah with what they need most - people with a good reason to hate Israel.

Hezbollah can and will build up a new stockpile quickly after this conflict ends, since it is the perfect way for Iran and Syria to fight Israel without actually having to face Israel.

What is needed is a way to diminish support for Hezbollah within Lebanon itself, but this, quite clearly, is not it.
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Your a moron. If everyone applied your logic, the world would have been blown up a long time ago.



If you're going to claim intellectual superiority over someone, the least you could do is use proper grammar while doing so.

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I always find amuzing people that tend to bargain with human lives like they are talking about something with absolutely no value. They are the first you would see run when the shit hits the fan in their own homeland. Make no mistake about it.

I keep in touch with over 20 ppl from Israel and I have yet to see a single one of them to say anything close to as arrogant as some of those comments posted at gfy the last days. If your mission is to subliminally deliver a msg that you care about what's going in Israel, trust me you blatantly failed. I highly doubt you give a flying fuck like most here. The funny part is that that the periodical phenomenon we call history more likely will knock your door in the future in a way you'll re-consider the things you find so simple to express for now.
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You fucking imbecile.
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The funny part is that that the periodical phenomenon we call history more likely will knock your door in the future in a way you'll re-consider the things you find so simple to express for now.
You mean will BANG on the rag heads' door right? cos the history has already been knocking for a while now is what making them so upset
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You should learn how to read, mr "Didn't the roman christians kill Jesus?".

Most attacks on Hezbollah would cause civilian casualties, but in varying numbers. What I pointed out is that going for those targets with the highest amounts of civilian casualties has a political and social backlash that more than offsets any possible military gains.
You make it seem liek there is another option.

I am open-minded so i will listen.

If the IDF's goal is to defend thier citizens by stopping katyusha rockets fired from Hezballa into Israel, then where do they attack?

If not the apartments where Hezbollah scum hide thier arsenal of weapons, or key roads and airports to stop import of other weapons, then where do they?

Maybe you have a better idea that would stop the firing of hezbollah rockets into israel, but i have yet to hear it.
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It's time that we stop putting blame on any one group and start to focus on understanding both sides...that's the first step in accomplishing peace in the Middle East. Efforts should be made on cultural understanding and education campaigns, not war campaigns. Whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon or Iran...the US and Israel are only treating the symptoms of the problem instead of getting to the root.
It is simple.

Isreal (or Jews as you call them) have been getting attacked more than any other group of people. All they want is peace if even in thier small home country of Israel. They are tired of appeasment and being kicked around.

Their nieghnors (Iran, Palastine, and most other Muslim-marjority counties) want the end of Israel.

Not more land from them, or anything else. THey do not want to stop untill there is no more Israel.

It comes down to taking them (Hezbollah and other terrortist groups, not the innocent people of Lebonan or other countries) out before, they have a chance to take out Isreal.
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Isreal (or Jews as you call them) have been getting attacked more than any other group of people. All they want is peace if even in thier small home country of Israel. They are tired of appeasment and being kicked around.
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Israel has every right to defend itself from terrorists so quit all your fucking boo-hooing over the collateral damage.
Do you think Hezbollah gives a flying fuck if their rockets kill Israeli civilians?

Let the Jews kick the shit out of these dumb ass towel heads once and for all and get it over with.
Why don't you go fuck yourself, you fucking JEW...??...

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You make it seem liek there is another option.

I am open-minded so i will listen.

If the IDF's goal is to defend thier citizens by stopping katyusha rockets fired from Hezballa into Israel, then where do they attack?

If not the apartments where Hezbollah scum hide thier arsenal of weapons, or key roads and airports to stop import of other weapons, then where do they?

Maybe you have a better idea that would stop the firing of hezbollah rockets into israel, but i have yet to hear it.
I'm going to bed now, so I'll keep it short. Maybe I'll post some more tomorrow.

What the IDF is doing right now contributes to the conflict raging on, and apart from that, ensures that it is likely to be continued in the future. A cease-fire would both provide immediate relief for Israel (for obvious reasons), as well as serving to prevent future conflicts by weakening support for Hezbollah within Lebanon, creating the possibility of a large peacekeeping force, and aiding the Lebanese majority in their own struggle against Hezbollah.
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No because if American citizens did attack another country our government would arrest those responsible and take appropriate action.


Now, that's funny !!!!!

You fucking destroy 2 countries, kill 100K+ civilians and you come up with this ...

Be honest, just say:

" We have the power to exterminate all lebanese, and will do so; our big brother gives us the "

At least, that is believable.
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they are all fucking kookoo over there....this shit is never going to end...till the USA drops 10 atomic bombs on both the towelheads and the jews...after we do that we will live happy ever after with dollar a gallon gasoline...even though it will be 125 degrees everyday due to global warming..but whoi fucking cares, we will all be dead by then

I don't know which fakenick you are , but you are funny ... and profound at the same time
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The whole Israel = Jews thing is getting old.

Please call them Israelies, and not Jews.

You are 100% right ... I always do the difference .. but people don't notice ...
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It's not my fight....I just see all the threads here with everyone pissing and moaning about how those damn Israeli's are killing all these innocent people.

WTF are they supposed to do? Just sit there and take the rocket strikes and not fight back because some non-military people will get caught in the crossfire? They only get caught in the middle because the pussy-ass Hezbollah hide their rocket launchers amongst the civilians.

Fuck that, they have the right to kick the shit out their enemies until their enemies stop attacking them.
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Maybe I will as soon as I'm done fucking your wife, you camel fucking mameluke.
You can't do shit with your small circumcised jew ugly weird penis.

Nobody likes you, because you are a jew and your race will be prosecuted, punished and killed until the end of time... FACT.

Everytime you jews have a chance to clean your reputation of all the bad of past, you make another mistake to make people hate you... you have no fix, you will be that way forever and you will never change.
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You can't do shit with your small circumcised jew ugly weird penis.

Nobody likes you, because you are a jew and your race will be prosecuted, punished and killed until the end of time... FACT.

Everytime you jews have a chance to clean your reputation of all the bad of past, you make another mistake to make people hate you... you have no fix, you will be that way forever and you will never change.
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Poor baby's sand monkey relatives are getting their asses pummelled by the Israelis.

What's really funny is that you think I'm Jewish.
I'm not, but I hope they kick the living shit out of your Uncle Tonoose ass.
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Bwahahahahahahaha.
Poor baby's sand monkey relatives are getting their asses pummelled by the Israelis.

What's really funny is that you think I'm Jewish.
I'm not, but I hope they kick the living shit out of your Uncle Tonoose ass.
You speak like a jew and you are circumsiced.

That is more than enough for me to consider you one of that hated race.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:23 PM   #88
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While 99.999999% of the world is arguing politics, ultra wealthy industrialists are getting richer and richer from this conflict and others.

Follow the money trail and you'll find the puppeters laughing all the way to the bank while eveyone else is glued to CNN.

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Old 08-01-2006, 10:05 AM   #89
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodGuy
You speak like a jew and you are circumsiced.

That is more than enough for me to consider you one of that hated race.
Hahaha, yeah ok.
I'm going to lose lots of sleep now because you consider me a jew
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