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madawgz · 07-31-2006, 02:58 PM

just did a search for: SlySoft AnyDVD
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=

so..they came up first, then right after, there are CRACK/SERIAL websites..

damn, all they have to do is get the trial and well put things together...

i feel sorry for this company

Deputy Chief Command · 07-31-2006, 02:59 PM

why ? now we can all get their software for free, isnt that what the internetz waz inventeded forz ?

fris · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

i buy most of my software i use.

Fucksakes · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

and anyone with half a brain can get cracks/serials easy, some prefer not to or feel "safer" doing so.

tahiti · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

SlySoft is an urban legend

Doctor Dre · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

Not like not havign the crack on the first google page will stop a lot of people ...

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

why ? now we can all get their software for free, isnt that what the internetz waz inventeded forz ?

if your out to get the software for free its not that hard to do...and no one can really "Stop" you

BUT

for regular people searching for their product...those people who would usually buy it will just crack it instead, so they lose a fuckload of sales

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

i buy most of my software i use.

same with me, sometimes...

i really only spend money on the companies i think deserve it, for example Tiny Personal Firewall, i paid for that...But ill be fucked if im going to pay for windows

Matt 26z · 07-31-2006, 03:17 PM

Hello and welcome to the world of selling software over the internet.

Retail-only software is still hit, but not nearly as hard.

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 03:55 PM

true, but its still a shame

bawdy · 07-31-2006, 04:28 PM

ironically the software is designed to defeat copy protection on DVD

Libertine · 07-31-2006, 04:29 PM

One abbreviation: DMCA.

aico · 07-31-2006, 04:34 PM

I predict a day will come, maybe very far in the future, but oh yes it will come, that search engines will be held accountable for the information they give people. I honestly can't believe people haven't tried to sue them yet, or maybe they have, and I haven't heard about it.

Example, if someone comes to me and asks me how to steal a car, I tell them how knowing that they are really going to steal a car, and they go out and steal a car and get caught, I am an accessory to that crime.

Why are search engines not held accountable for the information that they give out?

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 05:01 PM

I think they will sell actually more licenses because of those sites. The software
gets distributed a LOT faster and gets a LOT more exposure and believe it or not
but a lot of people still buy a license if they are happy with the software.

If they are smart they let it go until it´s VERY widely use then they change the
license system and make bank. Microsoft is doing very well using this strategy.

woj · 07-31-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

I predict a day will come, maybe very far in the future, but oh yes it will come, that search engines will be held accountable for the information they give people. I honestly can't believe people haven't tried to sue them yet, or maybe they have, and I haven't heard about it.

Example, if someone comes to me and asks me how to steal a car, I tell them how knowing that they are really going to steal a car, and they go out and steal a car and get caught, I am an accessory to that crime.

Why are search engines not held accountable for the information that they give out?

google doesn't really know you are intending to use the information they show for any illegal purposes..

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

google doesn't really know you are intending to use the information they show for any illegal purposes..

true, google cant be going around searching for anything illegal on their search to delete it...

that would be impossible

CamsLord · 07-31-2006, 05:12 PM

ya can pretty much get any software for free

EZRhino · 07-31-2006, 05:22 PM

ouch! But what can you do about it.

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 05:26 PM

I think of more than 1 way which makes it virtually impossible (read; so hard
to crack that´s not feasable to do it) to protect software. You really think
all these software companies make kickass software but can´t develope a
licensing system that would REALLY protect their software?

I´ll describe just 1 way to do it in a few words. software connects to server
with a x bit encrypted key. Server opens key verifies key (1 time) sends back
new key which is again packed in a key. All keys are 1 used 1 time....pretty
simple to build and worst case scenario if you´re able to crack both keys you
can only use the software once coz the server will notice and won´t send new
keys.

and that´s just 1 way to do it if computer is not connected to internet it could
be verified by a usb stick which is registered to a encrypted key of several
system ids like mac address processor serial number, etc, etc.

This same technique is used for RFID chip payment systems / id verification
which (mark my words) will replace the Credit Cards as internet payment
option in the near future. I´m actually working on something like this

This will also be used for payment systems in shops, bars, clubs, etc, etc.

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

I think of more than 1 way which makes it virtually impossible (read; so hard
to crack that´s not feasable to do it) to protect software. You really think
all these software companies make kickass software but can´t develope a
licensing system that would REALLY protect their software?

I´ll describe just 1 way to do it in a few words. software connects to server
with a x bit encrypted key. Server opens key verifies key (1 time) sends back
new key which is again packed in a key. All keys are 1 used 1 time....pretty
simple to build and worst case scenario if you´re able to crack both keys you
can only use the software once coz the server will notice and won´t send new
keys.

and that´s just 1 way to do it if computer is not connected to internet it could
be verified by a usb stick which is registered to a encrypted key of several
system ids like mac address processor serial number, etc, etc.

This same technique is used for RFID chip payment systems / id verification
which (mark my words) will replace the Credit Cards as internet payment
option in the near future. I´m actually working on something like this

This will also be used for payment systems in shops, bars, clubs, etc, etc.

sounds good, i hope your idea holdsup against the crackers

pornguy · 07-31-2006, 05:30 PM

The only way I will buy software is if I can try it first. Even some of the sites that say no trial will allow you if you talk with them. No reason to steal from them;

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz

sounds good, i hope your idea holdsup against the crackers

It will because each key set is only used once......so even when you crack it
it has become useless coz after you successfuly opened it can´t be used again.
There´s no algorythm used to generate the keys instead they´re generated
with random data and it´s a 2 way verification without the source code you
can´t get the mechanism out of the software......I´d say goodluck and happy
cracking.

You´d even know which license is attempting to crack it as the keys hold
a combination unique to a piece of software and the system it´s running on.
There´s no way to go around it.....the only tricky part in this the server. It
shouldn´t be prown to attacks and be up all the time....for big companies even
that can be randomised using randomly different servers from a pool in different
networks.......I´ll guarantee you this works......there´s no pattern, no way
of trying keys....as 1 wrong try will cause the software not to work and the
server won´t be sending a new keypair it´s just not possible

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 05:47 PM

Any serious business will gladly pay whatever license cost for software it´s
way too risky to get caught and sooooo not worth the saving of a few bucks.
individuals......nobody really cares about.....it´s about people using your
software to make money....that´s where the money comes from.

You really think Microsoft cares about kids or some student uses a unregistered
copy of Windows? Those are the people who made what it is today...that´s
marketing expenses and are written off and tax deductable.....they are far
more valuable than the license fee themselfes.

Theo · 07-31-2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bawdy

ironically the software is designed to defeat copy protection on DVD

ironically thread starter is looking to re-open a bittorent site lol

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

ironically thread starter is looking to re-open a bittorent site lol

Touche

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

ironically thread starter is looking to re-open a bittorent site lol

thats just business man

im not saying opening a torrent site will solve anything

money has to be made $

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz

thats just business man

im not saying opening a torrent site will solve anything

money has to be made $

You have a really odd view on what´s business and howto make money.
Look in your wallet right and bank right now and tell me if perhaps you
I could be right when I say perhaps you might want to rethink your way
of doing business coz it ain´t working out too well?

p.s. No offence meant.....just trying to figure what makes you believe your
ideas work so well........I´d be glad to hear that and see that I´m wrong....
I´m always willing to learn and adapt

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

You have a really odd view on what´s business and howto make money.
Look in your wallet right and bank right now and tell me if perhaps you
I could be right when I say perhaps you might want to rethink your way
of doing business coz it ain´t working out too well?

p.s. No offence meant.....just trying to figure what makes you believe your
ideas work so well........I´d be glad to hear that and see that I´m wrong....
I´m always willing to learn and adapt

im abit confused, your saying a torrent site cant make money?

ServerGenius · 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz

im abit confused, your saying a torrent site cant make money?

I don´t say it can´t.....but I doubt it´s a good, easy and safe way that it can.
apart from the fact that even if it would work it would be very temporary.

madawgz · 07-31-2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

I don´t say it can´t.....but I doubt it´s a good, easy and safe way that it can.
apart from the fact that even if it would work it would be very temporary.

well it would be open aslong as it had hosting, which isnt a problem

i ran livetorrents.com before and it was at 50-60k unique/day but the only reason that failed was because our programmer stopped coding...so nothing on the site could be edited

Kimo · 07-31-2006, 07:58 PM

that sucks ass man, fuck that!

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ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	I think of more than 1 way which makes it virtually impossible (read; so hard to crack that´s not feasable to do it) to protect software. You really think all these software companies make kickass software but can´t develope a licensing system that would REALLY protect their software? I´ll describe just 1 way to do it in a few words. software connects to server with a x bit encrypted key. Server opens key verifies key (1 time) sends back new key which is again packed in a key. All keys are 1 used 1 time....pretty simple to build and worst case scenario if you´re able to crack both keys you can only use the software once coz the server will notice and won´t send new keys. and that´s just 1 way to do it if computer is not connected to internet it could be verified by a usb stick which is registered to a encrypted key of several system ids like mac address processor serial number, etc, etc. This same technique is used for RFID chip payment systems / id verification which (mark my words) will replace the Credit Cards as internet payment option in the near future. I´m actually working on something like this This will also be used for payment systems in shops, bars, clubs, etc, etc. __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

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