Libertine

Arab birth rates.

In a few decades, muslim arabs will outnumber jews in Israel itself. Since Israel is a democracy, that will turn it into an arab-ruled state. It seems likely that when that happens, it will take the Palestinian areas back in as well, even further decreasing the ratio of jews in Israel. Within a century, Israel will change its name to Palestine

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Antonio

whats the moral of the story - fuck for your country

Libertine

There is no moral. It is a prediction.

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solution proposed by israel: an arab genocide

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Israel is no more a democracy than the United States is. Saying that Arabs are going to take over Israel democratically is like saying the US is going to elect someone who works in the best interest of the middle class and the poor. Never going to happen.

Libertine

Not really. Israel has several strategies.

The first is to make a strict separation between Israel and Palestina, give Palestina a decent amount of land, and try to get as many Palestinians/Israeli arabs as possible to move there. A strategy that was already being pursued through unilateral withdrawals.

The second is attracting more jewish immigration and trying to raise Israeli jewish birthrates. A strategy that is also being pursued, but which is not quite as successful as had been hoped for.

The third is ethnic cleansing - forcing Israeli arabs to move away through economic measures and such, but using political pressure or even force if necessary. This strategy isn't fully being pursued just yet, but it is being considered. However, pursuing this strategy would have large political consequences.

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Libertine

No, saying that arabs will take over Israel democratically is like saying latinos will take over the US democratically. Something that is not unlikely to happen in the long term.

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Mr. Soul

You're right, it's not unlikley to happen, it's impossible. Poor Latinos will never have any more power in our government than the poor Irish immigrants did. Poor and middle class people have no say in the way this government is run, and they never will. Doesn't matter what race they are. Unless these Latinos you're talking about suddenly develop massive wealth, they are not going to take over our government. We're not a democracy. We're a free market.

Paul

Is the same thing not happening in a lot of european countries at the moment ?

OTerror

Very interesting observation

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he-fox

I think you're wrong.

Snake Doctor

Before that happens there will be a Palestinian State and most if not all of the Arabs will choose to live there.

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umm it is litle bitt "stupid" to think like that!

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In Israel, the number of Christian Jews, known as Messianic Jews, has doubled in size to about 10,000 due to recent immigration waves.

Posted: Saturday, April 30 , 2005, 16:40 (BST)




In Israel, the number of Christian Jews, known as Messianic Jews, has doubled in size to about 10,000 due to recent immigration waves, according to Messianic leaders and evangelism opponents.

Eitan Shishkoff, the leader of a Messianic community in Haifa, located about 70 miles north of Jerusalem, says that there are roughly 10,000 members in 80 Messianic congregations around the country.

The population is twice that of 1980?s, when significant numbers of immigrants from the former Soviet Union began entering the country, according to the Jerusalem Post. Shishkoff says that 70 percent of the members in his congregation of 270 are from the Soviet Union.

In Israel, it is illegal for evangelism efforts to involve material benefits for prospective converts, according to the Jerusalem Post.

Yad L?Achim, and "anti-missionary" organisation opposed to "proselytism" since 1950, says that the Russian-speakers are being approached because of their "weak ties to Judaism and poor socioeconomic status," and are being "bought" through material benefits, according to the Post.

Shishkoff denies the allegation. "Maybe a few of our members first came in contact with us through the charity, but 98 percent of them didn?t ? make that 99.9 percent," he said.






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Libertine

Partly, but since there are less arabs, it will take a much longer time.

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Libertine

Unlikely. For a number of muslims, taking Israel through high birth rates and immigration is a real strategy. Also, a Palestinian state is likely to be quite poor and stay that way for a long time, which will be a strong reason for many Israeli arabs not to move there.

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NichePay_Manny

Hay Can't we all get along.

Paul

Ahh, fair point ! They are becoming quite a problem in some countries from what I've read

Quagmire

I'll see your 'high arab birthrate' and raise you a 'hopefully i'll be dead by then'.

By that point in time the political situation is going to be a horrible mess. Or we'll be living in a star trek like world. I'm leaning more towards mess being likely though.

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one time

have to agree with this statement...plus with the divide and conquer mentallity thats going on....not a chance anyways

E$_manager

arabs - sure. France for example.

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