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Old 07-30-2006, 09:06 PM   #1
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Israel supporters lets be serious

I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

This really pisses me off

so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??

do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
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the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:40 PM   #2
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israels actions are sickening me as well, but it seems most people are scared to talk about it or scared to talk bad about israel in general. even the government of america is scared to talk bad or condemn israel. it makes me sick, for fuck sakes, when someone does something wrong like this, it should be damn easy to admit it and condemn it. this whole raid on lebanon has been wrong from the start, but i guess two israeli lives are more important then 500 lebanese lives.

those kids that were killed is so sad, i literally had tears and i have no relation to people in the middle east at all. god bless the middle east.
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:55 PM   #3
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israels actions are sickening me as well, but it seems most people are scared to talk about it or scared to talk bad about israel in general. even the government of america is scared to talk bad or condemn israel. it makes me sick, for fuck sakes, when someone does something wrong like this, it should be damn easy to admit it and condemn it. this whole raid on lebanon has been wrong from the start, but i guess two israeli lives are more important then 500 lebanese lives.

those kids that were killed is so sad, i literally had tears and i have no relation to people in the middle east at all. god bless the middle east.
It is definately "wrong" and, more relevant - is it just? Certainly not.

No sane individual - nevermind a collective body in the form of a govt - bombs the offices of another leader simply because of the capture of soldiers. That's stupid move #1. From that alone - it sets any hope of peace back 20 years.

The continuance to the loss of life and damage to homes and infrastructure simply compounds the stupidity.

It is hard to learn the lesson of "you reap what you sow" - that started in 1967 and continued with ghetto camps and oppression of people for decades. This breeds action by what is easily labelled "terrorists". Did they ever fight for no valid reason??? Bottom line, Israel will reap what has been sown over decades - along with others who supported their actions. History has never proven this to be any different.
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It is definately "wrong" and, more relevant - is it just? Certainly not.

No sane individual - nevermind a collective body in the form of a govt - bombs the offices of another leader simply because of the capture of soldiers. That's stupid move #1. From that alone - it sets any hope of peace back 20 years.

The continuance to the loss of life and damage to homes and infrastructure simply compounds the stupidity.

It is hard to learn the lesson of "you reap what you sow" - that started in 1967 and continued with ghetto camps and oppression of people for decades. This breeds action by what is easily labelled "terrorists". Did they ever fight for no valid reason??? Bottom line, Israel will reap what has been sown over decades - along with others who supported their actions. History has never proven this to be any different.


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I can think of one reason why Israel would choose a remote attack over sending troops in.

Sending troops in puts their soldiers' lives at risk. Sending a missile.. does not.


I'm not saying I support that reason, I'm simply saying that might be a possible reason, that's all.

Another part of the reason might be that, if they were to send in an army then a lot of people in the world would criticize them for sending an occupation force into Lebanon.


Why not write a letter to the Israeli government and tell them you think they're doing it wrong? Maybe a petition?
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The problem is this is an urban war which is the hardest type to fight.

Hezbollah operates and launches from civilian neighborhoods not easy to spot and target military bases. Missles and weapons are stored in people's garages and launched from civilian neighborhoods on trucks.

So this type of situation will always create tragedies like what has been happening.

Its very fucked up to see anyone's kids die.

At the same time if a powerful group like Hezbollah is publicly stating their mission is to destroy Israel and wipe their whole country off the map, and is continuing to fire over 100 missles a day into Israel, Israel doesn't have many options as to how to respond.

I hate violence. But all sides in this war are used to it and have had violent conflicts for decades. So diplomacy doesn't work well, because both sides are notorious for not honoring their agreements.

Why anyone would want to live in this part of the world to begin with is beyond my comprehension. Even if I had not a single dollar I would find a way get my family the fuck out of that land. Everyone there is living on a timebomb just waiting to explode.
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I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

This really pisses me off

so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??

do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
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the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??
since when do you send in ground troops BEFORE bombing? thats just basic contemporary warfare 101 stuff.

and since when is YOUR intelligence better than theirs when it comes to choosing targets and knowing whats actually happening on the ground?
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Lebanon is just the battleground - the war is between Iran and the US.

Afganistan and Iraq are the same deal, just battles. Iraq has been a major fuck up of course - but thats the deal.

Iran are in danger of becoming a superpower - and that cant happen - under any circumstances.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:40 PM   #9
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What Israel is doing is very harsh but the world community needs to grow the balls to take out these cockaroach terrorist groups. Hezbollah should have been eliminated years ago and the Palestinian government does not have the resources to do it alone. This whole situation is a world community problem that will never be solved. The world is headed for some serious shit...
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I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

This really pisses me off

so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??

do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
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the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??
We bombed Afganistan and Iraq back to the Stone Age (which is really an upgrade) before we moved troops in.
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We bombed Afganistan and Iraq back to the Stone Age (which is really an upgrade) before we moved troops in.
Ironically that does not seem to have done much good.

Iraq/Afghanistan may have taken a backseat in media coverage tho - just for the moment.
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The problem is this is an urban war which is the hardest type to fight.

Hezbollah operates and launches from civilian neighborhoods not easy to spot and target military bases. Missles and weapons are stored in people's garages and launched from civilian neighborhoods on trucks.

So this type of situation will always create tragedies like what has been happening.

Its very fucked up to see anyone's kids die.

At the same time if a powerful group like Hezbollah is publicly stating their mission is to destroy Israel and wipe their whole country off the map, and is continuing to fire over 100 missles a day into Israel, Israel doesn't have many options as to how to respond.

I hate violence. But all sides in this war are used to it and have had violent conflicts for decades. So diplomacy doesn't work well, because both sides are notorious for not honoring their agreements.

Why anyone would want to live in this part of the world to begin with is beyond my comprehension. Even if I had not a single dollar I would find a way get my family the fuck out of that land. Everyone there is living on a timebomb just waiting to explode.
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Lebanon is just the battleground - the war is between Iran and the US.

Afganistan and Iraq are the same deal, just battles. Iraq has been a major fuck up of course - but thats the deal.

Iran are in danger of becoming a superpower - and that cant happen - under any circumstances.
you are correct..

additionally, i have said over and over again, its not about iran having nuclear weapons. it's the fact that iran supports terrorism and would gladly hand over nuclear material to numerous worldwide terrorist organizations. the us and the rest of the world can not allow this to happen.

if you thought 911 was bad, wait til a terror group detonates a dirty bomb in a major world city. if we dont go to war with iran now, we will later. although i hate the thought of another war, i would rather see it done now than later..
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Apparantly Bin Laden is getting pissed off with this fight for all the wrong reasons. He has been pushed off the front pages. His ego is dented. Instead of him and his cronies looking like the savior of the Arab world, Hezbollah have stepped up to the plate and are waging an effective fight hiding behind the skirts of women.

Pity about Lebanon, their women and children, but then most of them don't give a fuck as it isn't their country. Most of their families are praying and reading the Koran safely somewhere else.

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Apparantly Bin Laden is getting pissed off with this fight for all the wrong reasons. He has been pushed off the front pages. His ego is dented. Instead of him and his cronies looking like the savior of the Arab world, Hezbollah have stepped up to the plate and are waging an effective fight hiding behind the skirts of women.

Pity about Lebanon, their women and children, but then most of them don't give a fuck as it isn't their country. Most of their families are praying and reading the Koran safely somewhere else.

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Lebanon is just the battleground - the war is between Iran and the US.

Afganistan and Iraq are the same deal, just battles. Iraq has been a major fuck up of course - but thats the deal.

Iran are in danger of becoming a superpower - and that cant happen - under any circumstances.
Get out of here. That is EXACTLY what Zionists want you to believe. Even if there is a war with Iran, like Iraq, it will have more to do with the Zionist lobby and Jewish interests than it will with American.
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Get out of here. That is EXACTLY what Zionists want you to believe. Even if there is a war with Iran, like Iraq, it will have more to do with the Zionist lobby and Jewish interests than it will with American.
We are giving way too much credit to the Jews, they are a powerful lobby but thats it.

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Get out of here. That is EXACTLY what Zionists want you to believe. Even if there is a war with Iran, like Iraq, it will have more to do with the Zionist lobby and Jewish interests than it will with American.
Asshole, Evangelists (pure Southern Protestants) are more Zionist than any "Jewish group" in the world, and more numerous than any "Jewish minority".

Bush is a Christian soldier defending Christian interests. You are the only one not knowing that Christians are being persecuted in Muslim countries and no one gives a shit about it.
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None of you knows shit about what's going on there.
Why don't you ask about what happened with Christian majority in Lebanon
since last 30 years ? So, you actually support Hezbollah without knowing any shit about situation there.

The day when Iran will get nuclear weappon will be the end for your
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Asshole, Evangelists (pure Southern Protestants) are more Zionist than any "Jewish group" in the world, and more numerous than any "Jewish minority".

Bush is a Christian soldier defending Christian interests. You are the only one not knowing that Christians are being persecuted in Muslim countries and no one gives a shit about it.
Christians are tools, pure and simple. Most aren't particularly pro-Israeli, and Bush (a laughable joke of a Christian to get more votes) is simply a puppet pushed into place and wanting to make a name for himself. If a REAL Christian like Buchanan was not attacked so radically by Zionists on the left and right when they challenged for leadership such puppets as Bush wouldn't exist - at least they wouldn't be in power. Zionist and Jewish groups may be working extremely hard to try and mobilise the sheepish Christians behind Israel but they are openly the ones who are behind this mobilisation. AIPAC alone has MUCH more clout than all the evangelical groups put together, and this is evident by the million and one policies which completely ignore the more core Christian morals and values, yet somehow these same people that fail to enact any real Christian principals in the United States (even when they have a radical Christian in charge) manage to mobilise the US to go to war to take out an Israeli enemy? lol. One thing you will NEVER find however, on either side of politics in any real position of authority, is someone who questions Israel. That alone speaks volumes, especially when you consider leftists (who pursue anti-Christian policies) all around the world are turning against Israel. Let us see what the Democrats do
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I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children
So you didn't first bomb the crap out of Iraq for days on end before committing ground troops? Oh and killing untold number of civilians including children in the process in what was it 'Shock and Awe'? Like some fucking video game.

Newsflash. The US is known worldwide for its preference to conduct long range war over ground assault.

I swear some of you people do not have the first fucking idea about anything.
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all the pro israel comments above made me realize even more that hezbolah just might be right

instead of admiting that israel fucked up killing all those children from a distance

they try to justify it

man im starting to see what so many people have been telling me on and offline..............fuck i gues its true

in my defense I always give people the benefit of doubt


as far as those speaking on Americas military strategy in Iraq
and afghanastan........uhh those were countries with fully trained military

not some sepratist group of extremist

condoning the killing little kids is bad
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I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

This really pisses me off

so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??

do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
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the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??
First lets not forget what started it and thats not just the kidnap of 2 soldiers. Where was the sympathie when all the terrost attacks and suicide bombers wer active in Israel. ( and still are )

The united stats moved with the groudtroops into Iraq, see what that brought them. around 9 people are killed every fucking day by terrorists. Great job USA.
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I can think of one reason why Israel would choose a remote attack over sending troops in.

Sending troops in puts their soldiers' lives at risk. Sending a missile.. does not.


I'm not saying I support that reason, I'm simply saying that might be a possible reason, that's all.

Another part of the reason might be that, if they were to send in an army then a lot of people in the world would criticize them for sending an occupation force into Lebanon.


Why not write a letter to the Israeli government and tell them you think they're doing it wrong? Maybe a petition?

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instead of admiting that israel fucked up killing all those children from a distance

they try to justify it
Just remember when you read their comments, that you're reading the words of an ignorant. I get sick of reading it too. Blind faith is a strong sign of ignorance.
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israels actions are sickening me as well, but it seems most people are scared to talk about it or scared to talk bad about israel in general.
Have you followed this board for the last 2 weeks?
If you have you could not say such a stupid thing
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I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children
Those are US made weapons of mass destruction that the Israeli army is using.

And you are airlifting replacements to them.

Looks to me like the US government approves and supports.

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What Israel is doing is very harsh but the world community needs to grow the balls to take out these cockaroach terrorist groups. Hezbollah should have been eliminated years ago and the Palestinian government does not have the resources to do it alone. This whole situation is a world community problem that will never be solved. The world is headed for some serious shit...

Wow, like most Israel supporters it seems, you have a fantastic understanding of the realities of the situation.

That stupid Palestinian government should really do something about Hezbollah.
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