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Old 06-11-2002, 09:52 AM   #1
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:stop Lensman, Can we get a re-vote on the design contest.

Noone can seem to agree exactly, but there is *much* speculation and doubt as to the fairness of this contest.

Since this is your board I'd like to request from you a re-vote.

Now you can call me altruistic, but please feel free to remove my entry. I say this to avoid doubt on my intentions from naysayers.

But, as many GFY members realize this contest was not fair to the participants. And the results postedhere are skewed.

So for the sake of all the effort and attention that went into this on the part of all the designers, $ and prizes on the part of the sponsors etc, please approve a revote with different [& fair] poll
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Also many of the people of GFY would be interested to see the original judging chat log posted publicly. [available from jfpdude]

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Old 06-11-2002, 09:55 AM   #2
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It was 100% fair. The best designs won, did they not? I was a judge and had absolutely no clue who did which design. I chose which designs were the best. How can that be unfair?
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Old 06-11-2002, 09:57 AM   #3
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Do tell how a vote at THIS point would be fair in the slightest.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:00 AM   #4
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Do tell how a vote at THIS point would be fair in the slightest.
People rank the sites they like, then the designers see an accurate listing in the results.

The rankings that stand are skewed, that is not fair to the people who spent a lot of time and effort to see how they stacked up.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:02 AM   #5
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Do tell how a vote at THIS point would be fair in the slightest.
it won't be. alias, just cut your losses and wait for the next one. as i have said before, everybody got enough publicity out of this and to keep nagging would simply have a negative effect on your reputation. everybody wants justice but nobody likes a sore loser for a business associate. grow up. and this is as good advice as you'll get on this subject - you decide what to do ;)

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Alias, you have no voice on anything. You fucking cheated and were disqualified. That was JPFDude's decision.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:05 AM   #7
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I don't care about my own results but instead detest having participated in an UNFAIR CONTEST.
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I don't care about my own results but instead detest having participated in an UNFAIR CONTEST.
It was only unfair when you cheated it.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:06 AM   #9
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It was 100% fair. The best designs won, did they not? I was a judge and had absolutely no clue who did which design. I chose which designs were the best. How can that be unfair?
This is what I don't understand.

The best designs did in fact finish in the top 3. It's not like I built a shit ass tour and beat all these killer tours.

The only people complaining are the people who weren't going to win anyways and were fighting to be in the top 10 in a 28 tour contest.

The voting didn't mean shit in the end as far as I know...
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:07 AM   #10
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exactly. the voting was bullshit, but isn't that why they had judges? duh?
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:08 AM   #11
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It was only unfair when you cheated it.
haha at least i didnt pretend i wasnt in town and post as my gf

you jackass
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haha at least i didnt pretend i wasnt in town and post as my gf

you jackass
Would you like to speak with her? Do you need some sort of proof or something? How is this helping you? You cheated, you lost. Move on.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:10 AM   #13
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Alias, you have no voice on anything. You fucking cheated and were disqualified. That was JPFDude's decision.
jfpdude told me to post this, as he said lens was considering a revote as it is.

JFPdude also said amp was messaging him on icq all throughout the day of the contest.. .
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jfpdude told me to post this, as he said lens was considering a revote as it is.

JFPdude also said amp was messaging him on icq all throughout the day of the contest.. .
Yes? Is there some sort of problem with who I speak to now as well? What exactly IS your problem alias? You don't seem to know yourself.
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Would you like to speak with her? Do you need some sort of proof or something? How is this helping you? You cheated, you lost. Move on.
It's helping me reassure people of their assumptions that you and snow set this whole thing up, that there was not really a "ms amp" [it was actually you] and that you are generally a bit of an overly dramatic LYING BITCH.

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It's helping me reassure people of their assumptions that you and snow set this whole thing up, that there was not really a "ms amp" [it was actually you] and that you are generally a bit of an overly dramatic LYING BITCH.

Nice how you throw out unfounded accusations like this. No need to back it up, just throw it out there. Your a fucking ass clown alias, and I'm done speaking with you because you are obviously a small boy without the ability to think clearly.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:15 AM   #17
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:17 AM   #18
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Does anyone on this board own a TV?
apparently lensman has one he's giving away.
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This might be one of the top 3 worst threads ever.
Maybe we should vote on that though?
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Yes? Is there some sort of problem with who I speak to now as well? What exactly IS your problem alias? You don't seem to know yourself.
You were supposedly away but yet posted on aarons board within minutes of having to have "ms amp" post in your place on gfy.

wtf is up with that, i guess those bullshit shaky internet connections work ok with icq and some other boards but not on gfy.

I'm calling BULLSHIT , and i have screen caps of your post on aarons board and as "ms_amp" on here, posted within minutes of each other:
amps post on aarons board: http://d4nk.com/amp_post.gif
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note the date and time.




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I dont think Alias should be labeled a cheater since he stated he would do it before he did it, and it was to prove how easy it could be done.

I saw all the little rumors posted about using netscape and clearing cookies, and I watched the results afterwards. No doubt all the percentages dropped from 6-7+ almost to less than 5-% for all participants, including the top ranking sites.

I am not debating the results, as everyone is correct the hottest designs DID win.

Anyone who believes Alias was the only one who did what he did, is as gullable and as naive as a newbie kissing ass to be liked around here.

Again not debating the results, just the way everyone points at Alias as a cheater, smoke screen tactics.

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You were supposedly away but yet posted on aarons board within minutes of having to have "ms amp" post in your place on gfy.

wtf is up with that, i guess those bullshit shaky internet connections work ok with icq and some other boards but not on gfy.

I'm calling BULLSHIT , and i have screen caps of your post on aarons board and as "ms_amp" on here, posted within minutes of each other:
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alias, what the fuck is your problem? Can you please spell it out for me? I just am not getting it I guess. What the fuck does any of this have to do with anything?
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Nice how you throw out unfounded accusations like this. No need to back it up, just throw it out there. Your a fucking ass clown alias, and I'm done speaking with you because you are obviously a small boy without the ability to think clearly.
Don't you mean instead that my facts are causing you to be unable to maintain this lie that everyone has seen through for a few days now?
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Apparently not. That's why they're trying to kill each other for the one TV that's available in the whole world.
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Apparently not. That's why they're trying to kill each other for the one TV that's available in the whole world.
They are rioting like Somalians do when the food shipments arrive.
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Don't you mean instead that my facts are causing you to be unable to maintain this lie that everyone has seen through for a few days now?
What lie? Ms Amp is my girlfriend. I've told you this over and over again. What part of this do you NOT understand?
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alias, what the fuck is your problem? Can you please spell it out for me? I just am not getting it I guess. What the fuck does any of this have to do with anything?
you lied, you were on the internet and posting on gfy as "ms amp"

you bent your own rules, and defend them with semantics

this contest was not handled in a fair or unbiased manner

you were in the judging chat room $#@ [why wasnt everyone then] it could have been set [+m] so noone could talk but the judges.
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you lied, you were on the internet and posting on gfy as "ms amp"
I did not lie about anything. Ms Amp is my girlfriend and this is the last fucking time I'm going to say it.

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you bent your own rules, and defend them with semantics
I did not. Just because you can't decipher plain English wording does not mean that I bent rules.

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this contest was not handled in a fair or unbiased manner
Yes, it was. The voting was meant to get the GFY members involved. The judges were meant to decide winners. They did, and they did so fairly.

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you were in the judging chat room $#@ [why wasnt everyone then] it could have been set [+m] so noone could talk but the judges.
Again, because it was MY FUCKING CONTEST DUMBASS! They ASKED me to be there to observe the judging and witness that it was a fair vote. YOU did not need to be in that fucking room. END OF STORY! Get over it alias. It's really getting tired now.
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