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Spudstr 07-28-2006 09:54 PM
AS40015

here yeahhh babyyyyyyyy

i wont show up on lookingglass since ijust started broadcasting my /20 a few days ago.

http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput...-216-14-80-0-1

HizAzPhun 07-28-2006 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ycaza
we have 3 but here is one. and hey chris whats up?

OrgName: OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC
OrgID: ONWSL
Address: 530 West 6th Street
Address: Suite 504
City: Los Angeles
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90014
Country: US

ASNumber: 29761
ASName: OC3-NETWORKS-AS-NUMBER
ASHandle: AS29761

Oh yeah we have two of our own data centers too.

nice caz... oc3 is the network of choice for our server farm!

:thumbsup

mrkris 07-28-2006 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AliGbone
wells yous goin to need to enlighten us then geeza. thats all i sees when i do da harsh lookup. who else do you have DIRECT bgp connections to, and why dont we see dem in your braggage spew?

And dat adnc is tier 1 or 2 ? dey dont seem that biggy to me...more like biggy smalls type a thinkin?

alls i sees is only 2 connections to non-tier1 / tier2 companies, you were best off when yous were using da cogent bandwidth back in the days is da way im thinkin
Normally I am not like this, but welcome to the internet, learn to speak some fucking english.

tony286 07-28-2006 10:41 PM
im a big fan of webair

R.Benoit 07-28-2006 11:00 PM
I'm thinking about setting up... What are the main issues people are having with BS webhosting services? Besides owners/resellers who can't get things right with their customer service?

Besides calling people out... what is the function of this post?

Thanks for your time everyone,

Webmaster
R. Benoit

R.Benoit 07-28-2006 11:06 PM
I'm thinking about setting up... What are the main issues people are having with BS webhosting services? Besides owners/resellers who can't get things right with their customer service?

Besides calling people out... what is the function of this post?

Thanks for your time everyone,

Webmaster
R. Benoit

Kre8t0r 07-28-2006 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Ycaza - Nice! Glad to see you step into the thread.

This thread is like opening a can of worms, but what the heck, my intentions are good and all I care about is providing good customer service and networking.

In the end, sure, everyone can poke at me for starting this thread, but hell, any negative remarks simply help me teach my staff better things to do with situations. All companies have situations. We havent had any that would hurt us any more than any other hosting company.

So for your comments above everyone, appreciated even if I bitch back. :-)
This is GFY after all.
Fuck what anyone else says about this thread. Thread of the month award material for sure Chris! :thumbsup
:2 cents:

Sorry but Phat has my heart man.. :winkwink:

BruceM 07-28-2006 11:38 PM
Fuck I came into this thread hoping to see some AZN pics. :upsidedow

SplitInfinity 07-28-2006 11:56 PM
Spudstr - Congrats on your ARIN assignment! Clap! Clap! Hard to beat he beaurocracies. (spelled right? lol) To succeed is to win for real with ARIN.

Kre8t0r - Thread of the month, radical! Im happy now. I needed one of those in my GFY life-time. :-) I am happy some hosts posted their ASN's. Those who didnt want to respond to the "call-out" well... there is no reason they shouldnt post their ASN's if they have them. Hell, there was a time even I didnt have my own... maturity kicked in though. :-)

New key? Old farts have ASN's? lol

The purpose of this post R.Benoit is that web hosting companies should
really BE multi-homed if they claim to be and if they REALLY are multi-homed, then they should show that by publicly showing thier ASN.
I see alot of banner ads claming multi-homed however most are not "themselves" multi-homed and carrier neutral. Being carrier neutral is very important and provides mobility of ip space should one tier one go Enron on you.

Scenario....

Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!!

Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes
go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime.
No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime.
In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location...

Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.

split_joel 07-29-2006 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!!

Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes
go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime.
No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime.
In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location...

Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.
Fucking classic, thats great. LOL who else will step up.

Sparks 07-29-2006 01:34 AM
If you are such a great host and are making such great money why are you wasting your time with a thread like this? You sound a little threatened to me...

SplitInfinity 07-29-2006 01:42 AM
Nah, not threatened.... its not about the "threat", its about the integrity.
In my heart, I believe this has educated some people who would not have known about this. Call it business insurance to go with a host that is
carrier neutral. I posted this after I had a long discussion with a customer
who was being constantly bombarded with "we can do better" offers that were nothing more than complete B.S. from the person selling these so called better services. Rather than beat around the bush, I chose to *show* the customer precisely the difference in our network topologies and, well
the proof is in the pudding. I wanted to share this because my customer said it was the most enlightining conversation he has had in recent times with any host. I felt at that point, it was important to address, regardless of the bs people would post here about it, me and otherwise. In the end, now you know, if you already did, well good for you, this post was for those who didnt. :-)

Much Love,

Me.

justsexxx 08-29-2006 08:43 AM
edit: never mind

CIVMatt 08-29-2006 08:49 AM
Whats an ASN

HorseShit 08-29-2006 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SinisterStudios

I agree with split and ycaza, there are alot of fly by night guys who have no idea what they are talking about. I remember some guys saying they just bought cisco 3750's and were going to do bgp on them.
Things like that make you go :Oh crap.
I know what company that is :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

MasteR EvE 08-29-2006 07:13 PM
i like this thread.... LOL

no comment...

bknoob 08-29-2006 07:16 PM
You need to chill man. :thumbsup
Just because you are a big player doesn't give you the right to call other hosts "shit." You have probably started out small and worked your way up to where you are today.

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
I would love to see if they have a 6509 of their own for example, a 60k investment just for core switching.
Yeah, in 199x, again, when I was Concentric/XO. For a colo site with about 100 boxes and a few ISDNs.. oh how I hated the Pipes. ASN2828. 6509 isn't as impressive as it used to be. It's a big underpowered, overvolted fridge. Might as well be a fucking VAX. Who cares? Stop trying to impress the idiots with shit virtually anyone who's at a colo has managed for them.

Disclaimer: No, I don't believe Tear2 handles their own routing, they "outsource" that. It's much cheaper than having staff on call. I know, I used to be one. Then again, I'm just a single host wonder right now, what the fuck do I care that you manage your own copy of IOS. Woop-de-doodle fuck. Stop with the 'ignorance is more' advertising.. Fuck, that's twice in two days.

bknoob 08-29-2006 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Yeah, in 199x, again, when I was Concentric/XO. For a colo site with about 100 boxes and a few ISDNs.. oh how I hated the Pipes. ASN2828. 6509 isn't as impressive as it used to be. It's a big underpowered, overvolted fridge. Might as well be a fucking VAX. Who cares? Stop trying to impress the idiots with shit virtually anyone who's at a colo has managed for them.

Disclaimer: No, I don't believe Tear2 handles their own routing, they "outsource" that. It's much cheaper than having staff on call. I know, I used to be one. Then again, I'm just a single host wonder right now, what the fuck do I care that you manage your own copy of IOS. Woop-de-doodle fuck. Stop with the 'ignorance is more' advertising.. Fuck, that's twice in two days.
Couldn't have said it any better :thumbsup

By the way, you ran concentric? Concentric was my isp back in the days! I also used to use the EFnet irc server quite frequently :thumbsup

Good times...

jeffrey 08-29-2006 07:38 PM
I am with colo-cation.com not sure on there asn number, but they have been great for me.

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bknoob
By the way, you ran concentric? Concentric was my isp back in the days! I also used to use the EFnet irc server quite frequently :thumbsup
I didn't have anything to do with the dialups. For a while we were overdrawn (well, I guess it's been 10 years, yeah, I'm safe), because we ended up renting several sections of our POPs to AOL. I had nothing to do with that. Don't blame me. I still feel shunted that I had some of the legacy ISDN.

Oh Christ. I was one of the few higher end guys to actually have a k-line on our own server. Chady hated me because I inferred he had "Large men in Tonga" rather than a woman in his life. AFAIK, that lasted as long as the server did.

Bizarre to have a k: and an o: on old dianora hybrid code... but anyhow. years ago.. years, years, years ago. :)

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 08:08 PM
This was to be appended above, but I figure it's worth another bump.


Just because I feel like blowing more wind out of Splitinfinity's overblown sails for being an arrogant fuck (Sorry man, I was 20 once, and I though I was the shit witn enable, too):

Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
"One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong.."

Seriously, but if you can afford an Army Surplus 6509, you should be able to afford someone to answer the phones. Give poor Joel a break!

Now can we get back to the usual 'dumb cat photoshop threads?'

bknoob 08-29-2006 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
I didn't have anything to do with the dialups. For a while we were overdrawn (well, I guess it's been 10 years, yeah, I'm safe), because we ended up renting several sections of our POPs to AOL. I had nothing to do with that. Don't blame me. I still feel shunted that I had some of the legacy ISDN.

Oh Christ. I was one of the few higher end guys to actually have a k-line on our own server. Chady hated me because I inferred he had "Large men in Tonga" rather than a woman in his life. AFAIK, that lasted as long as the server did.

Bizarre to have a k: and an o: on old dianora hybrid code... but anyhow. years ago.. years, years, years ago. :)
rofl :thumbsup

ne0 08-29-2006 08:54 PM
You guys hangs out on EFNet?
If so hit me up, ne0 in there :)

and you:
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
This was to be appended above, but I figure it's worth another bump.


Just because I feel like blowing more wind out of Splitinfinity's overblown sails for being an arrogant fuck (Sorry man, I was 20 once, and I though I was the shit witn enable, too):

Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
Code:
Joel Pritchard
Splitinfinity Networks - Sales/Sys Admin
AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453
"One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong.."

Seriously, but if you can afford an Army Surplus 6509, you should be able to afford someone to answer the phones. Give poor Joel a break!

Now can we get back to the usual 'dumb cat photoshop threads?'
Dude, get a life, you keep looking for a way to throw shit at us.

Spudstr 08-29-2006 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
You guys hangs out on EFNet?
If so hit me up, ne0 in there :)

and you:


Dude, get a life, you keep looking for a way to throw shit at us.

hey free bumps! ;-)

ne0 08-29-2006 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudstr
hey free bumps! ;-)
yeah right :error

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
Dude, get a life, you keep looking for a way to throw shit at us.
BUT YOU HAVE AN ASS-ASSN! ASK YOUR BOSS!

Nothing personal. Your boss is a douchebag.

nico-t 08-29-2006 10:03 PM
hey, i remember this thread by its immense lameness

nico-t 08-29-2006 10:05 PM
look, if you make a thread like this (a ' serious' thread made into a giant ad) you bound to get shit thrown at you.

Adult Warden 08-29-2006 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
Dude, get a life, you keep looking for a way to throw shit at us.
Change of pace for once? Instead of the role reversed?

nico-t 08-29-2006 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adult Warden
Change of pace for once? Instead of the role reversed?
they deserve it in this shameless thread.

Webby 08-29-2006 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nico-t
hey, i remember this thread by its immense lameness
You think? :winkwink:

I remember SF from a problem in the 90's - before they claimed to be a host - added them to the blacklist then and the name is still there.

ne0 08-29-2006 10:16 PM
Well, fuck this, when you guys feel like starting a drama you actually do this.
You can say whatever you want, we are still better than most out there.
And yes, we have a fucking ASN, and we have a clue about this.
You think you're better, please attach proofs.
End of posting about this from me.

nico-t 08-29-2006 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
Well, fuck this, when you guys feel like starting a drama you actually do this.
You can say whatever you want, we are still better than most out there.
And yes, we have a fucking ASN, and we have a clue about this.
You think you're better, please attach proofs.
End of posting about this from me.
LOL - youre one in a million dude. Just cuz you had a shady award doesnt mean shit to me. I think youre drawing too much attention to you on the boards and that's not a good thing for a host - i like my host to be discrete and concentrated on their business.

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
Well, fuck this, when you guys feel like starting a drama you actually do this.
You can say whatever you want, we are still better than most out there.
And yes, we have a fucking ASN, and we have a clue about this.
You think you're better, please attach proofs.
End of posting about this from me.
I like your new sig, Neo.

Is the nice black gentleman in this thread, too?

Adult Warden 08-29-2006 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
Well, fuck this, when you guys feel like starting a drama you actually do this.
You can say whatever you want, we are still better than most out there.
And yes, we have a fucking ASN, and we have a clue about this.
You think you're better, please attach proofs.
End of posting about this from me.
Quote of the fucken year...in fact...I think I might include it in my sig

Thanks!

ne0 08-29-2006 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adult Warden
Quote of the fucken year...in fact...I think I might include it in my sig

Thanks!
ok, I lied I'll have to post again:

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Adult Warden 08-29-2006 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
ok, I lied I'll have to post again:
I'm sorry...can I help you? I just loved your quote...so I thought I would just run with it...

Thanks for providing unique content to fit my needy sig

weblinesales 10-31-2006 09:47 AM
AS31797 GalaxyVisions


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