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Living For Today · 06-10-2002, 05:32 AM

Well the age old question. What billing company as an affiliate would you recommend? My partner and I will be launching our paysite soon but still are unsure with what company to go with. Originally we thought ccbill as the support is great and its easy for webmasters to signup and promote. Lately lots of webmasters are complaining about ratios. Does it really have anything to do with the biller? What do you recommend us to use from an affiliates perspective and from a paysite operaters perspective? Thanks.

JimmyReject · 06-10-2002, 05:46 AM

Ratios aren't to do with ccbill, its how well the sites convert and advertising.

As an affiliate I like CCBill for ease of use, I also like Globill as their checks are always pay even if you only made a cent so whenI only promote a site via a text link and don't pimp it hard I know i can still expect a weekly check.

If I was to ever start a paysite though I'd use CCBill.

Brad Mitchell · 06-10-2002, 06:16 AM

I've always used CCbill and I wholeheartedly recommend them to webmasters all the time. You simply can't beat their service and support! Evey billing company does it's share of scrubbing and I am sure that there are people that would complain about each and every one of them. Ultimately, proper fraud control makes you more money then letting everything through the floodgates.

Want to talk about it? Feel free to call me toll free or ICQ me.

Cheers

Brad
866-TELE-XXX
ICQ 56950199

jimmyf · 06-10-2002, 06:19 AM

Living For Today

I must say your one of the VERY few that have ask this question .
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What do you recommend us to use from an affiliates perspective and from a paysite operaters perspective?
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ccbill... for me

I can even get them on the phone.... Don't know of any others that I can call AND get a person... Always have been able to.
Great people working there, nice, polite..
AND then there's KK.. She's ok sometimes..

Living For Today · 06-10-2002, 08:00 AM

Thanks for your opinions guys

More opinions would be appreciated.

FireFoz · 06-10-2002, 08:14 AM

I wanted to buy content and pay through CCbill once. My CC got declined without a reason given.

"Your creditcard has been declined".

Thats it. I couldnt buy it. My cc is fully legit and ok and it had enough credit on it. After trying it a few times, i stoped trying and i waited on my PayPal code. When i got that one, i tried one more time with CCbill and it still didnt work. Finally i paid with PayPal.

I've heard this more often. I hear that CCbill (and maybe others too?) just dont accept a lot of cards, for some odd reason. This will end up in bad signup ratios.

Anybody knows more about this point?

sexyclicks · 06-10-2002, 08:23 AM

I tried to enter my paysite with my girlfriends Credit Card - didn't work (ccbill)
I used my credit card - it worked.
After I went to the Admin area for my ccbill account and I refunded the money (my money) back to my credit card.
Now I can't use this credit card in ANY ccbill partner - it has been flaged or something...

ZoiNk · 06-10-2002, 08:39 AM

I would recommend having 2 processors up. You will figure out soon who you want as primary and who you want as secondary. The 3 main ones people use are
Epoch/Paycom www.epochsystems.com
Ibill www.ibill.com
and CCBill www.ccbill.com

Jettis www.jettis.com is getting stronger lately. If you use 2 of those 4, you will be happy with the results.
ZoiNk

jimmyf · 06-10-2002, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexyclicks
I tried to enter my paysite with my girlfriends Credit Card - didn't work (ccbill)
I used my credit card - it worked.
After I went to the Admin area for my ccbill account and I refunded the money (my money) back to my credit card.
Now I can't use this credit card in ANY ccbill partner - it has been flaged or something...

Am not 100% sure.. but if you ever do a charge back on ANYTHING
I think you card gets flagged.. Not a refund a charge back.

Am sure Kimmy knows... As she must have gone over it 20 times on this board alone.

sexyclicks · 06-10-2002, 09:06 AM

Yeah I know for the chargeback.
But that was a refund: I purchased in my paysite to test and after I went to the admin area and canceled the purchase

anyways....

FireFoz · 06-10-2002, 09:18 AM

Thing is i never ever used ccbill before, so it cant be flagged earlier

Gary · 06-10-2002, 09:24 AM

CCBILL

Living For Today · 06-10-2002, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
CCBILL

Judging from the title under your name that is a bias opinion

ZoiNk · 06-10-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFoz
Thing is i never ever used ccbill before, so it cant be flagged earlier

Check out the poll here that I started last week:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=63062

I started it after Jettis won't let me though, but ccbill and ibill do. It is interesting how many webmasters do get scrubbed.
ZoiNk

06-10-2002, 05:32 AM	#1
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	Billing Company? Well the age old question. What billing company as an affiliate would you recommend? My partner and I will be launching our paysite soon but still are unsure with what company to go with. Originally we thought ccbill as the support is great and its easy for webmasters to signup and promote. Lately lots of webmasters are complaining about ratios. Does it really have anything to do with the biller? What do you recommend us to use from an affiliates perspective and from a paysite operaters perspective? Thanks.

06-10-2002, 06:16 AM	#3
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	I've always used CCbill and I wholeheartedly recommend them to webmasters all the time. You simply can't beat their service and support! Evey billing company does it's share of scrubbing and I am sure that there are people that would complain about each and every one of them. Ultimately, proper fraud control makes you more money then letting everything through the floodgates. Want to talk about it? Feel free to call me toll free or ICQ me. Cheers Brad 866-TELE-XXX ICQ 56950199 __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

06-10-2002, 06:19 AM	#4
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	Living For Today I must say your one of the VERY few that have ask this question . _______________________________________________ What do you recommend us to use from an affiliates perspective and from a paysite operaters perspective? _______________________________________________ ccbill... for me I can even get them on the phone.... Don't know of any others that I can call AND get a person... Always have been able to. Great people working there, nice, polite.. AND then there's KK.. She's ok sometimes.. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting Last edited by jimmyf; 06-10-2002 at 06:25 AM..

06-10-2002, 08:39 AM	#8
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	I would recommend having 2 processors up. You will figure out soon who you want as primary and who you want as secondary. The 3 main ones people use are Epoch/Paycom www.epochsystems.com Ibill www.ibill.com and CCBill www.ccbill.com Jettis www.jettis.com is getting stronger lately. If you use 2 of those 4, you will be happy with the results. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

06-10-2002, 09:24 AM	#12
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	CCBILL __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

06-10-2002, 05:46 AM	#2
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	Ratios aren't to do with ccbill, its how well the sites convert and advertising. As an affiliate I like CCBill for ease of use, I also like Globill as their checks are always pay even if you only made a cent so whenI only promote a site via a text link and don't pimp it hard I know i can still expect a weekly check. If I was to ever start a paysite though I'd use CCBill.

06-10-2002, 08:00 AM	#5
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	Thanks for your opinions guys More opinions would be appreciated.

06-10-2002, 08:14 AM	#6
FireFoz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 480	I wanted to buy content and pay through CCbill once. My CC got declined without a reason given. "Your creditcard has been declined". Thats it. I couldnt buy it. My cc is fully legit and ok and it had enough credit on it. After trying it a few times, i stoped trying and i waited on my PayPal code. When i got that one, i tried one more time with CCbill and it still didnt work. Finally i paid with PayPal. I've heard this more often. I hear that CCbill (and maybe others too?) just dont accept a lot of cards, for some odd reason. This will end up in bad signup ratios. Anybody knows more about this point?

06-10-2002, 08:23 AM	#7
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	I tried to enter my paysite with my girlfriends Credit Card - didn't work (ccbill) I used my credit card - it worked. After I went to the Admin area for my ccbill account and I refunded the money (my money) back to my credit card. Now I can't use this credit card in ANY ccbill partner - it has been flaged or something...

06-10-2002, 09:06 AM	#10
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	Yeah I know for the chargeback. But that was a refund: I purchased in my paysite to test and after I went to the admin area and canceled the purchase anyways....

06-10-2002, 09:18 AM	#11
FireFoz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 480	Thing is i never ever used ccbill before, so it cant be flagged earlier