Q: How can Israel fight Hezbollah without attacking Lebanon?

[Sly]

Yes, it is unfortunate that the "innocent Lebanese civilians" are being killed in this battle. Obviously this battle is going on between Israel and Hezbollah.

But here's the question of the day to everyone going crazy about the civilians, how can Israel and Hezbollah battle without Lebanon feeling the after effects? They can't, plain and simple. Hezbollah has made itself a part of Lebanon and the Lebanese government hasn't stopped them. Therefore, the only way Israel and Hezbollah can battle is by pounding the shit out of each other, which means Lebanon gets hit too.

I see it as being similar to this... Canada decides they don't like American Republicans (haha). They decide that the Republicans are terrorists and the Republicans decide the Canadians are assholes (or whatever) and they start fighting. Bombs, battles, missiles, the whole shabang. There is no possible way for Canada to fight the Republicans without the non-Republicans getting hurt as well. At that point the United States government would need to make a decision: go along with the Republicans and fight Canada, or denounce the Republicans and join Canada in wiping the Republicans out.

Hezbollah doesn't necessarily have a country of their own, but they are fighting and attacking out of Lebanon. Thats where they will be hit. Where else would they be attacked? Whether or not you think Israel is justified, where does one expect Israel to attack?

And now, let the name calling commence. :-)

[wedouglas]

They can't. End of story. It's unfortunate that civilians die, but that is what happens when your enemy hides amongst them.

[Snake Doctor]

Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Lebanese Hezbollah scum, so why the hell are they fighting the Lebanese?

If U.S. soldiers were kidnapped by Lebanese terrorists we wouldn't fight the Lebanese. We would invade Argentina and liberate their people.

Israel really needs to get it's shit together, they're totally clueless.

[Snake Doctor]

Also, as a matter of fact, more "innocent civilians" have been killed by U.S. so-called "smart bombs" than have ever been killed by terrorists.

The United States has killed a MINIMUM of 39,000 Iraqi civilians so far in the war over there.
People need to get off their fucking soap boxes and smell the coffee.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Also, as a matter of fact, more "innocent civilians" have been killed by U.S. so-called "smart bombs" than have ever been killed by terrorists.

The United States has killed a MINIMUM of 39,000 Iraqi civilians so far in the war over there.
People need to get off their fucking soap boxes and smell the coffee.

I fail to see what any of that has to do with Israel and Hezbollah fighting. Maybe you can clarify.

Or step off the soap box.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Sly

I fail to see what any of that has to do with Israel and Hezbollah fighting. Maybe you can clarify.

Or step off the soap box.

I'm saying that all of the U.S. people whining about civilians getting killed by the Israeli military need to STFU....because we've killed a hell of lot more innocent towel heads than the Jews have.

Tell the Lebanese people if they don't want their houses blown up by Israeli bombs then they need to quit fucking voting for Hezbollah.
Tell the same thing to the Palestinians who voted for Hamas.

[KRL]

They got fast cars!

[Stumps]

watch me eat you

[Mr. Soul]

How about this question. What do you expect the Palestinians and Lebanese to do? Not have groups like Hezbollah and Hamas? Just accept Israeli occupation and life with no rights in a concentration camp?

Israeli's were attacking Lebanon long before there was anthing called Hezbollah. For all you "CNN accredited history buffs" out there, there was no such thing as Hezbollah until Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 (I think it was '82, around then anyway). An occupation that lasted 18 years.

It's hilarious to watch people framing this debate with Israel being the poor victims who just want peace. Like if there was no Hamas or Hezbollah Israel would be a peace loving country. What a sick fucking joke.

[shahab6]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I'm saying that all of the U.S. people whining about civilians getting killed by the Israeli military need to STFU....because we've killed a hell of lot more innocent towel heads than the Jews have.

Tell the Lebanese people if they don't want their houses blown up by Israeli bombs then they need to quit fucking voting for Hezbollah.
Tell the same thing to the Palestinians who voted for Hamas.

Exactly, thats what I believe too.

[Kimo]

i now believe that isreal is indeed a terrorist state

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yes, it is unfortunate that the "innocent Lebanese civilians" are being killed in this battle. Obviously this battle is going on between Israel and Hezbollah.

But here's the question of the day to everyone going crazy about the civilians, how can Israel and Hezbollah battle without Lebanon feeling the after effects? They can't, plain and simple. Hezbollah has made itself a part of Lebanon and the Lebanese government hasn't stopped them. Therefore, the only way Israel and Hezbollah can battle is by pounding the shit out of each other, which means Lebanon gets hit too.

I see it as being similar to this... Canada decides they don't like American Republicans (haha). They decide that the Republicans are terrorists and the Republicans decide the Canadians are assholes (or whatever) and they start fighting. Bombs, battles, missiles, the whole shabang. There is no possible way for Canada to fight the Republicans without the non-Republicans getting hurt as well. At that point the United States government would need to make a decision: go along with the Republicans and fight Canada, or denounce the Republicans and join Canada in wiping the Republicans out.

Hezbollah doesn't necessarily have a country of their own, but they are fighting and attacking out of Lebanon. Thats where they will be hit. Where else would they be attacked? Whether or not you think Israel is justified, where does one expect Israel to attack?

And now, let the name calling commence. :-)

Oh Sly..

Here's the words of the British foreign minister..: "You know, if they're chasing Hezbollah, then go for Hezbollah. You don't go for the entire Lebanese nation."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5205658.stm

The entire nation has been attacked, bombed.. even Christian Neiborhoods... Hezbollah is in the south...

And btw, do you know how many innocent Israeli civilans were killed by Hezbollah since Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000? According to wikipedia, it seems like you can count them in one hand... Mexico guerillla/Merceneries/Druglords kill more americans than that.. Should the US nuke Mexico?

The attacks on Lebanon and the death of thousands of civilians are pointless... Even with few members hezbollah left, they could kill more than 1 Isreali civilian per year... and what about the thousands whose familly has been decimated? You think they wont want revenge? And what about Lebanons right to defend itself?

oh and p.s. About Lebanon not stopping Hezbollah.. that would certainly be a messy operation since Hezbollah forces are stronger than Lebanon's ones...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yes, it is unfortunate that the "innocent Lebanese civilians" are being killed in this battle. Obviously this battle is going on between Israel and Hezbollah.

So, when Hamas or Hezbollah are fighting Israel, and innocent Israeli civilians die, it is OK also ...???

Same thinking, just reversed ... There is 2 sides to a fence ...

[UtahSaints]

I like Israel...

[media]

They will have to keep attacking Lebanon... Israel is dropping leaflets saying "Leave head for the hills" or some shit, to warn the civilians to leave because Helbollah is using their area as staging grounds for attacks on israelies....

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by media

They will have to keep attacking Lebanon... Israel is dropping leaflets saying "Leave head for the hills" or some shit, to warn the civilians to leave because Helbollah is using their area as staging grounds for attacks on israelies....

wow thanks for your brilliant, well thought out take on things.

[Doctor Dre]

If there was a big terrorist cell in canada I'm sure the US wouldn't think 2 mins and would be all over us...

It's lebanon's job to control what'S going on in their country. If they can't do that, they have to expect something to happen one day or another.

[ETCKon]

It might be the Repulican BUREAUCRATS acting like RATS......Then again the horses from the Lebonese side might under attack the Isreallights in order to gain 3 spaces along the L map.....Trying to obtain the castle of the Isreal on the lebanese side is way 2 too dangerous.....Besides its way too early to attack on that note......I think Syria sent their 40,000 troops to Lebanon in 1976 to prevent the Maronite militias from being overrun by Palestinian forces...........Its pretty odd how the number of years of the same exact war switches like that during vast time.....Its like BeRude or beirut... ...

[media]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

wow thanks for your brilliant, well thought out take on things.

Eat a dick... I've had a lot of margaritas this evening...

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by media

Eat a dick... I've had a lot of margaritas this evening...

Hey dude I've got nothing against posting while pissed, I've certainly done plenty of it myself.

I just hate hearing people saying things like "they have to keep attacking Lebanon". That's nonsense. More war does not create peace.

[coolegg2]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

How about this question. What do you expect the Palestinians and Lebanese to do? Not have groups like Hezbollah and Hamas? Just accept Israeli occupation and life with no rights in a concentration camp?

It was called the "Roadmap to Peace". Hamas and Hezbollah killed it, just as they have vowed to kill any peace plan that leaves even one Jew alive in what is now Israel. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Hezbollah and Hamas are all about ending an occupation - they moved well beyond that long ago.

[MetaMan]

who cares about these poor pakis? i mean seriously they are dirty ass people, i know 1 lebenese guy and he sells crack.

like whoopy fucking doo, they are not civilians they are all terrorists.

push the towler heads back i am so glad we dont have them on our boarder.

[ETCKon]

The whole act of war (BT Isreal/?) is like Golf, I guess....You use drivers to hit on the fairway but some golf hackers always like to miss shots and scream out Fores 4s while his ball slices or draws in the air.....It tuff to watch ALot of golfers Miss hit their balls straight to the fairway......Ohh yeah eye forgot....Golfers like that ^ take 6 shots with their numbered irons before hitting the green on Par 4s...........they also don't Putt and chip well either....
Usually, it should take only 2 shots to get on the green and 1 putt for birdie on par 4s...... 2 many Dmens

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[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

who cares about these poor pakis? i mean seriously they are dirty ass people, i know 1 lebenese guy and he sells crack.

like whoopy fucking doo, they are not civilians they are all terrorists.

push the towler heads back i am so glad we dont have them on our boarder.

Pakis?

You're too stupid to even get your racism right, now that's pathetic. Another high school dropout I assume.

Honestly, is there any adult message board that doesn't allow TGP gallery makers with downs syndrome?

If you're over the age of 20 and can't count to twenty, just kill yourself now and do the world a huge favor. "Metaman", please do it on a webcam and set a good example.

[CamsLord]

fuck war...

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Pakis?

You're too stupid to even get your racism right, now that's pathetic. Another high school dropout I assume.

Honestly, is there any adult message board that doesn't allow TGP gallery makers with downs syndrome?

If you're over the age of 20 and can't count to twenty, just kill yourself now and do the world a huge favor. "Metaman", please do it on a webcam and set a good example.

ever heard the term "same shit different pile" i also havent submitted galleries in about 2 years, i have no need to submit to other sites.

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do i get a cookie? who cares about the toilet bowl aka middle east? i sure dont, the jews are finally doing some quality work. let me guess your towel is dirty? please go wash it and give yourself a bath at the same time.

[SmokeyTheBear]

hezbollah is the one being attacked.. stop killing people is an easy solution..

If the "bloods" or "crips" kidnapped 2 marines do you think the military would start bombing compton . ?

If a kidnapper hides in a daycare do we drop a bomb on the daycare to kill one kidnapper ?

heres a great idea "stop murdering people" problem solved..

[SmokeyTheBear]

the whole problem in a nutshell is they both are following the " he hit me first rule" , but nobody can pinpoint who actually hit who first .

the palestinians kinapped a soldier thinking that maybe that would stop the daily invasions/killing by idf in gaza , it didnt , israel just upped the masacre. so hezbollah figured if they kidnapped soldiers maybe it would send a better message because israel wont invade lebanon, they were dead wrong..

So now none of the soldiers have been returned , hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed and nothing will change. israel will continue bombing civilians , eventually pushing hezbollah into syria and northern lebanon, they will lay low for awhile stockpile weapons from iran and this will all hit "replay" some other time in the next few years

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

ever heard the term "same shit different pile" i also havent submitted galleries in about 2 years, i have no need to submit to other sites.

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do i get a cookie? who cares about the toilet bowl aka middle east? i sure dont, the jews are finally doing some quality work. let me guess your towel is dirty? please go wash it and give yourself a bath at the same time.

hahahaha, wow, two years huh? You're big time now. Funny how you didn't disagree with the downs syndrome or high school dropout parts.

lol

...and sadly, you actually failed the counting test. If you had made it past the sixth grade, you would know that, in fact, you spell out numbers under 20 when writting them. Ouch. Say what you will about the "pakis" in Lebanon, but even the ten year olds there know how to count.

Oh fuck, I am so sick of the Israel bashing. You terrorist lovers take your asses to Israel and see how you like it when a bomber blows himself up in public. You are just out to lunch and then a bomb goes off. That kills innocent people too. If we are lucky you idiots will get blown up too. Lebannon and Palestine support terrorists. Get a clue.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Israeli's were attacking Lebanon long before there was anthing called Hezbollah.

i guess you are talking about when Lebanon was occupied by Syrian troops and were harboring the PLO who was also carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel and who was then expelled

retard.

[BusterBunny]

magic.......

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

hahahaha, wow, two years huh? You're big time now. Funny how you didn't disagree with the downs syndrome or high school dropout parts.

lol

...and sadly, you actually failed the counting test. If you had made it past the sixth grade, you would know that, in fact, you spell out numbers under 20 when writting them. Ouch. Say what you will about the "pakis" in Lebanon, but even the ten year olds there know how to count.

blah blah blah, i hope your panties are in a knot knowing the lebanon is close to being 1 big bbq.

"you spell out numbers under 20 when writting them" so you dont spell them over 20? does that make any sense? the only schools they have in lebanon is for terrorist training so i do not expect you to understand.

wow you are bigtime you come on an msg forum and act like you are the deputy prime minister of lebanon.

please do the world a favor and become the next martyr,

or at least come to the beach with me tommorow, because if i forget my towel i will at least have a backup.


<<< see that, thats me laughing at you.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Oh fuck, I am so sick of the Israel bashing.

I'm going to weep especially for you.

Right now, most of the world opposes the actions of Israel, but you are clearly in the US and your solution to any problem is "take out" anything you do not agree with. If someone tries to "take out" you - that's a different story.

[harvey]

after seeing http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/ I'm absolutely shocked. How fucked up can this be?

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

"you spell out numbers under 20 when writting them" so you dont spell them over 20? does that make any sense? the only schools they have in lebanon is for terrorist training so i do not expect you to understand.

I don't know if it makes sense, but it's called the English language, genius. Wish I could say the same about your posts. "Is" those schools for terrorist training? What are you, six?

What don't I understand again? How you could be an adult and still be so ignorant? As I said, a junior high education would answer all these questions for you. When writing, you spell out numbers under 20. One, two, three, I'll let you try it on your own from there. Don't worry, you don't owe me anything, first lesson is free. Or you could always ask your eighth grade English teacher for additional help.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't live in Lebanon. In fact I live in the best area of the greatest city on the planet, New York. I'm sure the cow farmer you work for in the most pathetic province of Canada can tell you where that is.

jackass

Originally Posted by Webby

I'm going to weep especially for you.

Right now, most of the world opposes the actions of Israel, but you are clearly in the US and your solution to any problem is "take out" anything you do not agree with. If someone tries to "take out" you - that's a different story.

Hey if I did all the dumb ass things like Hamas and Hezbollah does then I deserve to be taken out. My solution to most things is not to "take them out". I hate that innocent people have to die. There really is no other option. They are terrorists and will always be terrorists. They raise their children to be that way and I do not see that changing anytime soon. Most of the world does not oppose what Israel is doing. Most of the world wonders why Lebannon has not done a damn thing about hezbollah. They do nothing because they support them. If they did not support them they would get off their ass and do something.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Hey if I did all the dumb ass things like Hamas and Hezbollah does then I deserve to be taken out. My solution to most things is not to "take them out". I hate that innocent people have to die. There really is no other option. They are terrorists and will always be terrorists. They raise their children to be that way and I do not see that changing anytime soon. Most of the world does not oppose what Israel is doing. Most of the world wonders why Lebannon has not done a damn thing about hezbollah. They do nothing because they support them. If they did not support them they would get off their ass and do something.

You have your opinion.

Most of the world does, in fact, oppose the current actions of Israel.

Most of the world understands why Hamas and Hezbollah exist.

Apart from the US, Israel and four other countries, the rest of the world do not recognize Hezbollah as a "terrorist organization" or have obvious reservations in declaring that.

[Theo]

There are always options

[sacX]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yes, it is unfortunate that the "innocent Lebanese civilians" are being killed in this battle. Obviously this battle is going on between Israel and Hezbollah.

It is justified for Israel to attack Hezbollah, but beyond attacking suspected Hezbollah hideouts, positions they are also directly attacking the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, this is not *unfortunate* it's immoral.

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Israeli's were attacking Lebanon long before there was anthing called Hezbollah. For all you "CNN accredited history buffs" out there, there was no such thing as Hezbollah until Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 (I think it was '82, around then anyway). An occupation that lasted 18 years.

PLO

[Ace_luffy]

that's part of history of war ... civilian always affected..........

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

If the "bloods" or "crips" kidnapped 2 marines do you think the military would start bombing compton . ?

Come on easy answer ...

Well , coming to think about it, maybe they would say that it is an Al-Quaeda operations, that they have information that it is plotting to blowup Century City , and would bomb it.

Then Halliburton would clean it up, and some friendly developper would build a nice gated community with a spa, 10 tennis courts, 4 pools, valet parking, it's own church ....

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by sacX

It is justified for Israel to attack Hezbollah, but beyond attacking suspected Hezbollah hideouts, positions they are also directly attacking the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, this is not *unfortunate* it's immoral.

You are entitled to your belief that is is immoral, but from a military perspective it is sound military tatics. They are defending against their enemies being resupplied by sea, by air, and by land into Southern Lebanon. Sea ports, airports, roads, bridges etc. are all military targets. Some of the other "civilian" targets are in fact military targets as one returns fire on targets that one has received fire from. Their enemy hides among "civilians" that may or may not be their enemy. There of course is always to be expected "collateral" damage. Collateral damage is always part of war. If the Lebonese government and the UN forces inside of Lebenon would have enforced UN Resoultion 1559 (I think that is the correct resoultion) as both were required to do under the resolution, Lebanon would not now be suffering.

BTW if Israel did not take the necessary measures to protect their soldiers that they are putting in harms way, that could also be considered by many to be "immoral".

[69pornlinks]

Don't let history repeat itself i could care less what they do, but it will affect u.s. soilders...they're sworn to protect the us and not israel. look at a map and see where lebanon is located and make your own conclusions on what's really going on...oh u.s. taxpayers guess who paid for the bombs, jets, and bullets that are being used...hahaha

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites

If the Lebonese government and the UN forces inside of Lebenon would have enforced UN Resoultion 1559 (I think that is the correct resoultion) as both were required to do under the resolution, Lebanon would not now be suffering.

Please, do not invoke the UN in regards to a matter involving Israel ...

Be decent at least ... That is my OPINION....

[ronbotx]

Although written in a humorous format, it accurately describes what the darlings from Hezbollah are up to..... and the explains the timing and reason for the initial attack.

http://vox-poplar.blogspot.com/2006/...hs-poppin.html

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Please, do not invoke the UN in regards to a matter involving Israel ...

Be decent at least ... That is my OPINION....

It would be best not to invoke the UN at all when it comes to resolutions as they do not enforce the overwhelming majority of them. The UN is all talk, with little action, and UN troops are only good for handing out aid packages.

[hagbard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Israeli's were attacking Lebanon long before there was anthing called Hezbollah. For all you "CNN accredited history buffs" out there, there was no such thing as Hezbollah until Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 (I think it was '82, around then anyway). An occupation that lasted 18 years.

Yup, it wasn't Hezhollah in 1982- it was the PLO that was attacking Israel out of southern Lebenon. Same shit - different group. Thanks for straightening us out.

[hagbard]

Originally Posted by Webby

You have your opinion.

Most of the world does, in fact, oppose the current actions of Israel.

Most of the world understands why Hamas and Hezbollah exist.

Apart from the US, Israel and four other countries, the rest of the world do not recognize Hezbollah as a "terrorist organization" or have obvious reservations in declaring that.

Of course they have reservations officially stating it. Most of these countries have issues in stating anything that will make them a potential target - neutral unless decrying the USA in all matters. Perhaps knowing that the EU thinks they're terrorists is not good enough for you?

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?id=10923