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DamageX · 07-18-2006, 08:46 AM

As we all know, these days it?s getting harder and harder to make a buck. While the pie remains the same size, there?s more and more webmasters looking for a slice of it. Sponsors churn out FHG?s like mad, which still get saturated and old in a relatively short amount of time. Surfers see the same galleries on lots of sites and realize that there?s nothing really unique about them, or the sites that list them. Well, you can change that and, obviously, make more money while at it, with a very small amount of time invested.

Ever since the first free sites emerged, be they picposts, TGP?s or linklists, the free site owners that made the most money were the ones that listed their own stuff. Of course, there?s only so much time one can invest in doing the daily tasks, so there were not too many of them around. Most webmasters still concentrated on submissions, while most free site owners still concentrated on building traffic to their free sites. Today, you can easily do both, with just a little bit of help and knowledge. What am I talking about? I?m talking about each TGP owner listing their own galleries, as well as gallery submitters who can build their own TGP.

Listing your own galleries, created on one, or several templates branded to your own site, is sure to benefit you in at least two ways. One of them is that search engine spiders will like your sites much more, since they?ll actually have a lot more content, without being just a one-page link farm. Another way you?ll benefit from this is by having the branded galleries create an even more unique appearance of your site. Remember, by doing so you?ll show your surfers that you?re making an effort to deliver content to them, in your own proprietary packaging, thus contributing to increase their trust towards your site.

?But?, you?ll say, ?creating enough galleries to update a TGP daily would take a HUGE amount of time!? Well, that?s how it used to be, not anymore. See, the successful webmaster has always found a way to work smarter, not harder. Therefore some nifty people sat down and coded Arylia, as an easy way to create galleries on the fly, without having to go through the tedious process of creating each gallery design, selecting each pic, cropping and positioning each thumb and so on. Arylia is a template driven server-side application that will let you create galleries in 30s or less! Just create a template, choose a sponsor and save your reflink and upload some banners for the sponsor. Next choose your content source (it can be an FHG, a directory with pics on your server, or even a zip with pics), press a button, wait 15-20s and voilá! You?ve got yourself a gallery! Repeat 10-20 times with different content sets and you just got yourself enough fresh galleries to update your TGP for the day! Not only that, but the galleries you create can have their big pics residing on their own HTML pages, which give you more ad spots and even deeper site structure for the search engine spiders to munch on. Tinkle with each gallery to adjust a few keywords here and there and the search engine spiders will love them and your site, which they?re being listed on! Still not sure what they?ll look like? Check out www.babeglam.com for an example, all the galleries listed on it are hosted on the same site, have their big pics on HTML pages and each took less than a minute to generate with Arylia! And if you?re not sure how easy working with this application would be, check out the demo on www.arylia.com or the video tutorials! See, work smarter, not harder.

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 08:58 AM

LOL, this musta been waaaaaaaaaay too long for GFY.

Kristian · 07-18-2006, 09:04 AM

Fantastic post. Thinking out of the box.

Tom_PM · 07-18-2006, 09:11 AM

I remember when that software came out I let the author know that aquiring images from sponsor FHG's in many cases will be a copyright violation.

FHG=free hosted gallery of course. Hosted not only for convenience, but because in many (most?) cases, there is no content license for use on other domains but the sponsors own.

So, while I love helpful tools as much or more than the next guy, just do yourself a favor and check with your sponsor(s) before aquiring FHG images
and hosting them yourself.

CaptainHowdy · 07-18-2006, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

LOL, this musta been waaaaaaaaaay too long for GFY.

!!

DutchTeenCash · 07-18-2006, 09:14 AM

Ive read 2 lines

Kristian · 07-18-2006, 09:15 AM

Make your own templates. Use sponsor content. Who said anything about ripping fhgs?

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I remember when that software came out I let the author know that aquiring images from sponsor FHG's in many cases will be a copyright violation.

FHG=free hosted gallery of course. Hosted not only for convenience, but because in many (most?) cases, there is no content license for use on other domains but the sponsors own.

So, while I love helpful tools as much or more than the next guy, just do yourself a favor and check with your sponsor(s) before aquiring FHG images
and hosting them yourself.

Agreed there, good point. I was considering putting that in the initial article, but since it already got long enough to put GFY to sleep, I figured someone would mention it along the line, and you did.

Tom_PM · 07-18-2006, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian

Make your own templates. Use sponsor content. Who said anything about ripping fhgs?

Nobody did

The software has that capability is all I was saying. Just a friendly comment to keep affiliates out of any potential hot water.

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian

Make your own templates. Use sponsor content. Who said anything about ripping fhgs?

Arylia does have the ability of ripping sponsor FHG's. Since many do shoot their own unique content, this is a very good option to have. Of course, there's still a ton of sponsors around who use non-exclusive content, which they aren't licensed to let affiliates use, so it's a good idea to check with your sponsor before ripping their FHG's.

jt420 · 07-18-2006, 09:19 AM

nice info

fris · 07-18-2006, 09:20 AM

i like the template system, so if you have gallery designs, you can just select each for each site. very handy

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

i like the template system, so if you have gallery designs, you can just select each for each site. very handy

Yeah, create the template once, save and re-use as many times over and over again. I can't believe this thing didn't come out sooner, I've been wanting one since 2000 LOL.

Kristian · 07-18-2006, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Nobody did

The software has that capability is all I was saying. Just a friendly comment to keep affiliates out of any potential hot water.

Right, sorry! I'm so used to negativity on this board, I misunderstood your post.

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian

Right, sorry! I'm so used to negativity on this board, I misunderstood your post.

Tom is one of the less negative posters around here.

Hooligan · 07-18-2006, 09:48 AM

I'm not reading all that.
Post cliff notes of what your software can do.

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooligan

I'm not reading all that.
Post cliff notes of what your software can do.

Boo-hoo, I'm so gonna cry!

It's not my software. Do yourself a favour and learn how to read threads other than "would you hit it" and you might make an extra buck.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-18-2006, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

LOL, this musta been waaaaaaaaaay too long for GFY.

Shoulda used the two or three line rule!

Double spacing woulda helped too!

Either way, it was still SHIT SPAM!

L0rdJuni0r · 07-18-2006, 10:31 AM

nice info.. will keep in mind

SetTheWorldonFire · 07-18-2006, 10:42 AM

nice software

scottybuzz · 07-18-2006, 11:01 AM

nice thread

DamageX · 07-18-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetDomainia

Shoulda used the two or three line rule!

Double spacing woulda helped too!

Either way, it was still SHIT SPAM!

Geez, what's a guy got to do around here to make people assimilate some useful info? After all the BLATANT fucking spam on this board you label MY article as spam? Wow...

JD · 07-18-2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetDomainia

Shoulda used the two or three line rule!

Double spacing woulda helped too!

Either way, it was still SHIT SPAM!

eat a dick asshat.

ffmihai · 07-18-2006, 01:26 PM

the pie is not the same size. the pie is getting bigger everyday yo!

arock10 · 07-18-2006, 01:39 PM

Arylia is a great program. I've been using it for months, have five copies, and make lots of galleries everyday with it. I'd be lost without it.

JD · 07-18-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10

Arylia is a great program. I've been using it for months, have five copies, and make lots of galleries everyday with it. I'd be lost without it.

same here. Saves SO much time

MrJackMeHoff · 07-18-2006, 02:23 PM

The pie gets bigger every day so your first sentance was false so I quit reading.

JD · 07-18-2006, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

The pie gets bigger every day so your first sentance was false so I quit reading.

i disagree. the overall "pie" may be getting larger (# of surfers) but the number of surfers that are likely to actually PAY for porn is staying the same or shrinking.

blazi · 07-18-2006, 03:37 PM

great thread DamageX, some good points for sure!

Mr. Romance · 07-18-2006, 03:43 PM

good points...

Mr. Romance

Vin · 07-18-2006, 03:46 PM

Nice post DamageX, thnx for sharing

Btw, love your signature Knowledge is Power and Money is Power too

MrDicB · 07-19-2006, 12:04 AM

this is such a kick ass piece of software that I made the video tutorials for it. I was passing along the good word to a friend about how to use it and decided to make my movies generic enough that everyone could use them. This is an awesome tool, created by some cool developers who only made it to HELP other webmasters. Anyone calling this post spam needs to realize value when they see it.

Agent 488 · 07-19-2006, 12:13 AM

yep it rocks - paid for itself many times over - just don't the scammers 'round gfy find out about it.

Jamie · 07-19-2006, 12:30 AM

Add the ability to handle Video files, and we might have something.

one eight · 07-19-2006, 12:33 AM

Good thread, DamageX!

DamageX · 07-19-2006, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie

Add the ability to handle Video files, and we might have something.

That would put movie gallery makers/submitters out of business.

V_RocKs · 07-19-2006, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I remember when that software came out I let the author know that aquiring images from sponsor FHG's in many cases will be a copyright violation.

FHG=free hosted gallery of course. Hosted not only for convenience, but because in many (most?) cases, there is no content license for use on other domains but the sponsors own.

So, while I love helpful tools as much or more than the next guy, just do yourself a favor and check with your sponsor(s) before aquiring FHG images
and hosting them yourself.

Of course if the American webmasters do this then they are shitheads because the Russian webmasters don't give a fuck and even if the sponsor canceled the account they just open another as a different person...

V_RocKs · 07-19-2006, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i disagree. the overall "pie" may be getting larger (# of surfers) but the number of surfers that are likely to actually PAY for porn is staying the same or shrinking.

Hmm... Nope... porn companies definately make more sales now than they ever did before. I have worked for many sponsors over the years and I have seen many of them go from 500 sales/rebills a day to over 2000 sales/rebills a day.

At the same time though the number of surfers becoming webmasters is staggering... It all doesn't matter much though... I don't really give a shit about someone who scrapes $1K a month doing some hard assed work... I care about smart people who can do little to no work and make $20K a month... those people will eventually cut into my bottom line... But then again, it doesn't matter because I am constantly evolving too.

Rui · 07-19-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Geez, what's a guy got to do around here to make people assimilate some useful info? After all the BLATANT fucking spam on this board you label MY article as spam? Wow...

You should have known better...most kids don't want threads about business but rather "would you hit it" or "drama drama"..

Either way nice looking app, Web 2.0 app for adult webmasters :p

digifan · 07-19-2006, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

LOL, this musta been waaaaaaaaaay too long for GFY.

Pay them no mind

Kimo · 07-19-2006, 03:24 AM

been planning on giving this a try for a new site of mine

DamageX · 07-19-2006, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimo

been planning on giving this a try for a new site of mine

So what's keeping you from doing it?

JD · 07-19-2006, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

So what's keeping you from doing it?

DamageX · 07-19-2006, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

I should slap you for that one

fantabulous · 07-19-2006, 08:25 AM

Thanx )

Jarmusch · 07-19-2006, 08:52 AM

Interesting tool. While this without a doubt can increase sales, it can also increase your bandwidth bills x50, if you only list your own galleries on a high traffic TGP.

JD · 07-19-2006, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

I should slap you for that one

bring it on ya big swedish meatball!

Lace · 07-19-2006, 10:45 AM

Sorry if this has been metioned in the thread, havent had a look.

The lease price I would imagine is monthly, correct? Is there any option to buy after lease?

Thanks

jscott · 07-19-2006, 10:49 AM

i love that advice! i live by it aswell

:

DamageX · 07-19-2006, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace

Sorry if this has been metioned in the thread, havent had a look.

The lease price I would imagine is monthly, correct? Is there any option to buy after lease?

Thanks

I suppose you can always lease it for a month to try it out, then buy it. Would be the smartest thing to do, if you were unsure.

07-18-2006, 08:46 AM	#1
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Make more sales by getting beefier sites! As we all know, these days it?s getting harder and harder to make a buck. While the pie remains the same size, there?s more and more webmasters looking for a slice of it. Sponsors churn out FHG?s like mad, which still get saturated and old in a relatively short amount of time. Surfers see the same galleries on lots of sites and realize that there?s nothing really unique about them, or the sites that list them. Well, you can change that and, obviously, make more money while at it, with a very small amount of time invested. Ever since the first free sites emerged, be they picposts, TGP?s or linklists, the free site owners that made the most money were the ones that listed their own stuff. Of course, there?s only so much time one can invest in doing the daily tasks, so there were not too many of them around. Most webmasters still concentrated on submissions, while most free site owners still concentrated on building traffic to their free sites. Today, you can easily do both, with just a little bit of help and knowledge. What am I talking about? I?m talking about each TGP owner listing their own galleries, as well as gallery submitters who can build their own TGP. Listing your own galleries, created on one, or several templates branded to your own site, is sure to benefit you in at least two ways. One of them is that search engine spiders will like your sites much more, since they?ll actually have a lot more content, without being just a one-page link farm. Another way you?ll benefit from this is by having the branded galleries create an even more unique appearance of your site. Remember, by doing so you?ll show your surfers that you?re making an effort to deliver content to them, in your own proprietary packaging, thus contributing to increase their trust towards your site. ?But?, you?ll say, ?creating enough galleries to update a TGP daily would take a HUGE amount of time!? Well, that?s how it used to be, not anymore. See, the successful webmaster has always found a way to work smarter, not harder. Therefore some nifty people sat down and coded Arylia, as an easy way to create galleries on the fly, without having to go through the tedious process of creating each gallery design, selecting each pic, cropping and positioning each thumb and so on. Arylia is a template driven server-side application that will let you create galleries in 30s or less! Just create a template, choose a sponsor and save your reflink and upload some banners for the sponsor. Next choose your content source (it can be an FHG, a directory with pics on your server, or even a zip with pics), press a button, wait 15-20s and voilá! You?ve got yourself a gallery! Repeat 10-20 times with different content sets and you just got yourself enough fresh galleries to update your TGP for the day! Not only that, but the galleries you create can have their big pics residing on their own HTML pages, which give you more ad spots and even deeper site structure for the search engine spiders to munch on. Tinkle with each gallery to adjust a few keywords here and there and the search engine spiders will love them and your site, which they?re being listed on! Still not sure what they?ll look like? Check out www.babeglam.com for an example, all the galleries listed on it are hosted on the same site, have their big pics on HTML pages and each took less than a minute to generate with Arylia! And if you?re not sure how easy working with this application would be, check out the demo on www.arylia.com or the video tutorials! See, work smarter, not harder. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

07-18-2006, 08:58 AM	#2
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	LOL, this musta been waaaaaaaaaay too long for GFY. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

07-18-2006, 09:11 AM	#4
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I remember when that software came out I let the author know that aquiring images from sponsor FHG's in many cases will be a copyright violation. FHG=free hosted gallery of course. Hosted not only for convenience, but because in many (most?) cases, there is no content license for use on other domains but the sponsors own. So, while I love helpful tools as much or more than the next guy, just do yourself a favor and check with your sponsor(s) before aquiring FHG images and hosting them yourself. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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07-18-2006, 09:04 AM	#3
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07-18-2006, 09:15 AM	#7
Kristian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,733	Make your own templates. Use sponsor content. Who said anything about ripping fhgs?

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07-18-2006, 09:48 AM	#16
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07-18-2006, 01:26 PM	#24
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	the pie is not the same size. the pie is getting bigger everyday yo! __________________

07-18-2006, 01:39 PM	#25
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07-19-2006, 12:04 AM	#32
MrDicB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 60	this is such a kick ass piece of software that I made the video tutorials for it. I was passing along the good word to a friend about how to use it and decided to make my movies generic enough that everyone could use them. This is an awesome tool, created by some cool developers who only made it to HELP other webmasters. Anyone calling this post spam needs to realize value when they see it.

07-19-2006, 12:13 AM	#33
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07-19-2006, 03:24 AM	#41
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07-19-2006, 08:52 AM	#46
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	Interesting tool. While this without a doubt can increase sales, it can also increase your bandwidth bills x50, if you only list your own galleries on a high traffic TGP.

07-19-2006, 10:45 AM	#48
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07-19-2006, 10:49 AM	#49
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