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candyflip 07-18-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
Show me ANY link that has definitive proof the PS3 games will cost anywhere near $100? The only ones that have said that are Sony haters.



First of all I said Intellivsion, idiot. Try reading. I said I paid $200 for a ColecoVision in 1982. Intellivsion was $300 in 1979.

You're pretty hostile and defensive about a video game discussion. Thanks for providing me with my daily laugh.

E$_manager 07-18-2006 10:53 AM

and when you start to drive a real car , you are moving the same as you play races (to the left, to the right)

dunefield 07-18-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
Show me ANY link that has definitive proof the PS3 games will cost anywhere near $100? The only ones that have said that are Sony haters.



First of all I said Intellivsion, idiot. Try reading. I said I paid $200 for a ColecoVision in 1982. Intellivsion was $300 in 1979.

It's true games will cost ALOT more than wii games because of blu-ray disc costs and HDTV costs alone... you're looking at $10-20 more a game... which adds up in the end...


I also find it funny people knock the controller yet most people who are replying like FPS like Halo or Doom. Well it would be EASIER to play a FPS with the WIImote rather than your average PS3/Xbox controller... It's faster and more precise to get to targets than using the analog stick...

dunefield 07-18-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
They don't fail? Let's see they gone from a clear #1 in console sales to a very distant 3rd. Clearly a sign of a company that know what it is doing. And for fanboys that think everything Nintendo does is gold, all I have to say is VIRTUALBOY.

Yeah lets forget the whole handheld market... They ruled it for the last 20 years and still rule it now with the DS... Lets forget Nintendo changed the way of gameplay with analog sticks, shoulder buttons, rumble pack... I mean they haven't done much have they? They don't make much money from the Pokemon franchise either :(

Man sounds like Nintendo are in the gutter...

MetaMan 07-18-2006 11:19 AM

i think it looks fucking sick! what an awesome idea.

CaptainWolfy 07-18-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by L0rdJuni0r
i rather play computer games...

agree with you... :)):thumbsup

Michaelious 07-18-2006 11:23 AM

it is a no hoper

Dollarmansteve 07-18-2006 11:24 AM

I cant believe nintendo forgot to consult GFY when designing the Wii.. what idiots. Now they are destined for failure.

notabook 07-18-2006 11:27 AM

I think all console makers will have at least one great flop in their existence. It is kind of like a test in a way? If they are a great company, it won't matter, they?ll be able to recover and go on to make greater systems in the future. If they are piss-poor, it'll ruin them.

Sega's big flop was the Saturn. The Dreamcast couldn't help after they made such a poor system before it... they had way too much stigma on them and it really killed them. Pitty too, the Dreamcast was such a powerful console and has so much more untapped potential. Sega got out of the console market and still makes some pretty good games for the console market.

Nintendo's big flop was the Virtualboy. Kickass concept, stupid fucking system. It gave people headaches and nauseas, it was hard for many people to see. Plus when you have real way to play it other than standing up (gamers like to sit our fat asses down god damn it!) it was doomed to failure. Nintendo recovered from this fiasco easily and stiller mains one of the big three.

Microsoft?s big flop was Windows Millennium? wait. It?s big flop is probably going to be the Xbox 360, at least in foreign markets. It just has not caught on in place outside of the US, especially in Japan. It?s not to say that the 360 is a bad system? it fucking rocks for the most part as long as you have a HDTV, otherwise it?s going to suffer on older screens on some games especially (King Kong anyone?)

Sony is the only big company to not fuck up as of yet hardware-wise. PS1/PS2 have been huge in all markets, even with the PS1 being inferior to the N64 in everyway (minus the cd vs. cartridge thing, which ultimately let PS1 win imo). I don?t know if the PS3 will have success or if it?ll be Sony?s big mistake. If it is, and if they are a good enough company to handle it, then it won?t matter.

jds 07-18-2006 11:33 AM

Just compare success of DS and PSP

The psp seems way more powerfull but sells 5x less.

Nintendo knows what they're talking about and kill the market with nintendogs and braintrainer programs. Who would have guessed ? They did.

WillyFRESH 07-18-2006 11:34 AM

i don't know what all of you are smoking, the Wii is awesome.

and yes, people want to jump around in their living room like idiots. there are plenty of people DON'T share your narrow points of view.

flashfire 07-18-2006 12:07 PM

why not just do special controls for some games....its not gonna work for everything, also wii graphics suck big timek. There is a reason it will be the cheapest system by far

damonx 07-18-2006 12:07 PM

it will failed like the Virtual Boy project

Twisted Dave 07-18-2006 12:36 PM

Has anyone actually played a Virtual Boy? I had the pleasure just a few months ago. The 3D effect is dazzling... it's genuinely 3D feeling. Not 3D like a Playstation polygon or whatever... actual 3D. It looks as if you can actually touch the graphics. Seriously... as big of a flop as it was and what a bad idea it turned out to be, the technology is fucking incredible.... especially for the time. Still looks amazing now!

MerlinK 07-18-2006 12:41 PM

Whatever.. I think the movement thing is pretty cool actually - it's touching on Virtual Reality: a blend of physical movement with virtual reaction.

I think this will be a hit in some crowds - I may pick one up just to improve hand-eye coordination.

-Merlin

notabook 07-18-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
Has anyone actually played a Virtual Boy? I had the pleasure just a few months ago. The 3D effect is dazzling... it's genuinely 3D feeling. Not 3D like a Playstation polygon or whatever... actual 3D. It looks as if you can actually touch the graphics. Seriously... as big of a flop as it was and what a bad idea it turned out to be, the technology is fucking incredible.... especially for the time. Still looks amazing now!

Yeah, I bought one when it first came out because I'm a huge Nintendo fan, always have been and always will be. After about an hour of use it made me extremely sick to my stomach and gave me killer headaches. I had it for about two weeks and after getting continually sick with using the device I had to bring it back to the store (I think the only place that carried them around here at the time was Toys'r'us.). Amazingly enough, they had 15 returns that month of people complaining about the same exact thing. It was certainly a novel concept and I loved the idea, and a few of the games were just plain fun (I loved the Tennis one lol), but I would take my health over being able to play a game any day of the week.

candyflip 07-18-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
Has anyone actually played a Virtual Boy? I had the pleasure just a few months ago. The 3D effect is dazzling... it's genuinely 3D feeling. Not 3D like a Playstation polygon or whatever... actual 3D. It looks as if you can actually touch the graphics. Seriously... as big of a flop as it was and what a bad idea it turned out to be, the technology is fucking incredible.... especially for the time. Still looks amazing now!

I got one when they were basically giving them away. Picked up one and all of the games released for like $75 or something like that. It's sitting in storage at the moment. I loved playing it, but it was a bit limited. Might have to go and dig it out.

Drake 07-18-2006 01:42 PM

I speak as a non-gamer. I think that technology looks really cool.

SCORE Ralph 07-18-2006 02:50 PM

Hmm i read a lot of ppl here talking about how they dont wanna jump around or that the control sucks... if you pay attention, you could rotate the control counter-clockwise and use it as a standard control.

They didnt take away from the experience, they added to it. Im def getting one at the price they have it for.

Twisted Dave 07-18-2006 02:56 PM

AND it also has a standard controller too ... didn't know that eh?!

;)

Scott McD 07-18-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dunefield
Yeah lets forget the whole handheld market... They ruled it for the last 20 years and still rule it now with the DS...

In my opinion, Nintendo have 20 years in the market as you say, Sony bring out 1 machine, and it's the best in the market.

I don't care which sells most, i only care about what i like, what i'll buy.

PSP easily wins for me on good games catologue, Umd Movies, etc... :2 cents:

Twisted Dave 07-18-2006 03:23 PM

UMD Movies production has just been ceased. Sony's games catalog on PSP is really nothing different from the PS2. Why bother with a handheld that's too large to take anywhere anyway, and is over priced, and full of features you'd never really wanna use.

:) Enjoy.

Scott McD 07-18-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
UMD Movies production has just been ceased.

:warning ???

Scott McD 07-18-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
Sony's games catalog on PSP is really nothing different from the PS2.

Why bother with a handheld that's too large to take anywhere anyway,

and is over priced

That was the reason for getting one though, for playing the PS2 games on the move. :)

Too large ?? Seems fine to me. Perfect for those long flights. :)

I got mine cheap. :winkwink:

blazi 07-18-2006 03:34 PM

haha, their games are sorta trippy!

Corleone 07-18-2006 03:35 PM

looks like fun

Twisted Dave 07-18-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
:warning ???

Check it out ... Sony has ceased production of UMD Movies.

dunefield 07-18-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
In my opinion, Nintendo have 20 years in the market as you say, Sony bring out 1 machine, and it's the best in the market.

I don't care which sells most, i only care about what i like, what i'll buy.

PSP easily wins for me on good games catologue, Umd Movies, etc... :2 cents:

You do realise the first Sony Playstation was co-designed by Nintendo and was intended to be the next Nintendo console until they cancelled and went with the Nintendo 64...

It's the "best" in the market? Why because it's powerful as hell? Yet the games suck and the battery life is horrid... Whats the point...

notabook 07-18-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
Check it out ... Sony has ceased production of UMD Movies.

Man, they could have made so much money off of UMD. Instead their UMD vids (which is commonly 10 year old movies) is usually a good 5-10 bucks more than brand new retail dvd's. :disgust

If they had offered UMD movies packaged for free w/some new retail DVDs, offered others at a reasonable price ($10), it may have been a more of a success. The PSP is getting closer to being Sony's first console failure. :(

Although the PSP may save grace if/when Microsoft?s portable comes to the market LOL.

Jaytown 07-31-2006 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
They don't fail? Let's see they gone from a clear #1 in console sales to a very distant 3rd. Clearly a sign of a company that know what it is doing. And for fanboys that think everything Nintendo does is gold, all I have to say is VIRTUALBOY.

You call third in consoles and still fortune 500 a failure? christ man, what are you smoking.

jizzy.b 07-31-2006 08:47 AM

The Wii will sell very well. Hell I know some people who are going to buy a wii just because of Zelda. Plus it will be a great multiplayer-experience. Nintendo-consoles are awesome for multiplayer-games. 4 Player Smash Bros. is a lot more fun than 4 Player Halo2

Kimo 07-31-2006 08:54 AM

yeah zelda will be a big attraction

Circus_Penis 07-31-2006 09:02 AM

The Wii will get early sales but you'll see a heavy trade in rate after the initial big name titles come out. Nintendo is too far up its own ass due to Japanese market loyalty. There will be a few adult titles but 3rd parties are already bitching about the difficulty of development.

My guess is the launch of the Wii is going to be huge and then peter out in 1 year. The xbox360 is going to have a solid market for a while and then peter out due to the limited library and the lack of titles. Its not going to have the strength of the PS2 library when the other systems were released. The PS3 I just don't know with the 600 dollar price tag. I just can't see a console market being ok with that. So I think the PS3 is going to have a slow start and work up momentum once the intial blue-ray bugs are worked out and the price starts dropping.

WebairGerard 07-31-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration
You're all pretty much ill informed, and wrong

I'm in the games industry... have been for many years. I've been making games as an artist and have worked up to lead positions on some VERY big games. I've been in the thick of things. Going to trade shows, public shows, being onvolved with the making processes also gives you an insider view of the industry.

Nintendo is going to sell a fucking shit load of units.

Low price. Amazing, and innovative new way of playing a console. Almost every 3rd Party company on board (something they lacked last time round).

At this year's E3 (Electronics Entertainment Expo), the largest of all the main videogames industry trade events, the main word on people's mouths was Nintendo.

They announced the Nintendo DS to a lot of Skeptics, and look what happened? Its selling enough to break records.

Nintendo Wii, may have a stupid name. But it's going to blow videogaming out of its current state. Everyone take note.

Nintendo Wii has full motion sensoring. Full positional and rotational detection. It knows where it is in space. No other system has that. Sony announced tilt etc in their controller. But let me make people aware... GameBoy had that same technology years ago. This is different. Imagine playing a first person shooter with the movement controlled on the left hand, and the direction and shoot controlled on the right hand ... actually moving. Imagine cocking the gun back in your hands. Twisting the controller down so you can pistol whip the guy ahead... You don't need a button press... you just do it.

Imagine the possibilities, and open your minds.



I agree. I think the technology combined with low price is a score. It will kick ass.


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