Banned from PussyCash

[pocketkangaroo]

Well I must say that this is a first in adult. The first time I've ever been banned from an affiliate program. When logging into Stats Remote, I noticed it wasn't picking up the Pussy Cash stats. I went to check and saw this:

Attention: ####

Your account has been terminated due to the suspect that some of the transactions made through your account in our affiliation program were done in bad faith and might involve fraudulent activity.
Please note that your account has been terminated and all of your earnings have been forfeited!!
We demand that you cease all of you activities that are connected to our sites and/or program, in any way and that you immediately stop promoting our sites in any way.

YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT IN CASE YOU WILL NOT CEASE ALL ACTIVITIES AS REQUIRED, LEGAL PROCEEDURES MAY COMMENCE.

I'm just curious if this is a common occurence as I'm somewhat new to cams and very new to Pussy Cash.

I work with some of the larger programs and as many of you know send strictly SE traffic. The traffic I was sending to ImLive came from PPC and came from a cam comparision site. We were testing the conversion rates of a few sponsors before moving them into our network. The traffic we were sending was fairly minimal, but targeted, and I think maybe we had sent a couple sales this week.

I have no problem if a company doesn't want our traffic if they feel it doesn't convert or is not right for their program. I can't think of a reason why cam search traffic would be bad, but every site has their choice. A simple e-mail stating our traffic didn't fit their program would have been fine. Heck, I'd have even been fine if they moved us to Revshare (always willing to test things out).

What I don't like is being accused of fraud. We spend over $100k in PPC a month, send quality traffic that converts well to a lot of sponsors here, and have never once done anything fraudulent (probably wouldn't even know how). We're a US based company that does a lot of mainstream and adult business. My partner speaks regularly at the top search engine shows and has a great reputation in the industry. I am just amazed to be banned from a program and accused of fraud after sending maybe 500 clicks without an explanation.

Nonetheless, not drama. Just wondering if this is common.

[studiocritic]

so you're asking if unprofessionalism, poor customer service, and general ignorance is common in adult?

yes.

[pocketkangaroo]

so you're asking if unprofessionalism, poor customer service, and general ignorance is common in adult?

yes.

No, I'm asking if being banned from cam sites is common. I know they make large payouts up front, so they are probably more particular with their traffic. I've seen it on the boards, just never considered my traffic to fall in that fraud range.

[studiocritic]

i'm just trolling.. i've seen the same threads you have, seems pretty unprofessional they didn't offer you revshare or something.. or at least, e-mail/call/icq you.. not a libelous form letter

[pocketkangaroo]

i'm just trolling.. i've seen the same threads you have, seems pretty unprofessional they didn't offer you revshare or something.. or at least, e-mail/call/icq you.. not a libelous form letter

I didn't even get a form letter. That was what I saw when logging into my affiliate account (which I rarely do).

[studiocritic]

I didn't even get a form letter. That was what I saw when logging into my affiliate account (which I rarely do).

even better!

i screwed around on the surfer side of imlive for awhile the first time i saw the site.. it seemed like it was really glitchy as far as how my minutes used were tracked, i kinda shyed away from promoting it after seeing that..

[Webby]

Well I must say that this is a first in adult. The first time I've ever been banned from an affiliate program. When logging into Stats Remote, I noticed it wasn't picking up the Pussy Cash stats.

Nonetheless, not drama. Just wondering if this is common.

Not sure if it's common, but sure never been banned from any program - tho nothing would be a surprise.

The pigshit ignorance and bullshit is a very good reason not to be dealing with certain sponsors.

Another one added to the blacklist

[DamageX]

Not sure if it's common, but sure never been banned from any program - tho nothing would be a surprise.

The pigshit ignorance and bullshit is a very good reason not to be dealing with certain sponsors.

Another one added to the blacklist

Been on my shitlist for a good few years. Funny thing is, I don't even remember why I shitlisted them, but threads like this remind me that I made the right decision.

[Diligent]

May I suggest the possibility of them thinking Your traffic was "too good to be true"?

But geez.. in that case, they should've contacted You first and ask *how* You're promoting them.
That was just.. well, unprofessional..

[darksoul]

I can't seem to be able to make any sale with them
I might as well just drop them.

[Dvae]

Same thing happened to me.
Accused of email spamming which I never did. Never sent the first email. And no, did not make many sales. Actually, very little traffic to them.
They did have a lot somewhat silly rules as I recall too.

[Webby]

Been on my shitlist for a good few years. Funny thing is, I don't even remember why I shitlisted them, but threads like this remind me that I made the right decision.

Never actually blanked Pussycash so far, - but they were near the bottom of the list anyways. The vibes were not quite right - including some weird terms of trading - got little doubts if they were stuffed in a judges face, have no hope in hell of standing up. Query the TOS and ya won't get an answer. Same with the "managed" support forum where rarely a straight answer is published - tho each question may be responded by email - keeps attention away from the board

[pussyluver]

i'm just trolling.. i've seen the same threads you have, seems pretty unprofessional they didn't offer you revshare or something.. or at least, e-mail/call/icq you.. not a libelous form letter

Nothing libelous about it IMO - not an attorney. The message wasn't made public until the receipient posted it here.

Could be an error? Maybe a letter to PussyCash asking why.

[traffic addict]

Well I must say that this is a first in adult. The first time I've ever been banned from an affiliate program. When logging into Stats Remote, I noticed it wasn't picking up the Pussy Cash stats. I went to check and saw this:



I'm just curious if this is a common occurence as I'm somewhat new to cams and very new to Pussy Cash.

I work with some of the larger programs and as many of you know send strictly SE traffic. The traffic I was sending to ImLive came from PPC and came from a cam comparision site. We were testing the conversion rates of a few sponsors before moving them into our network. The traffic we were sending was fairly minimal, but targeted, and I think maybe we had sent a couple sales this week.

I have no problem if a company doesn't want our traffic if they feel it doesn't convert or is not right for their program. I can't think of a reason why cam search traffic would be bad, but every site has their choice. A simple e-mail stating our traffic didn't fit their program would have been fine. Heck, I'd have even been fine if they moved us to Revshare (always willing to test things out).

What I don't like is being accused of fraud. We spend over $100k in PPC a month, send quality traffic that converts well to a lot of sponsors here, and have never once done anything fraudulent (probably wouldn't even know how). We're a US based company that does a lot of mainstream and adult business. My partner speaks regularly at the top search engine shows and has a great reputation in the industry. I am just amazed to be banned from a program and accused of fraud after sending maybe 500 clicks without an explanation.

Nonetheless, not drama. Just wondering if this is common.

PussyCash is not changing accounts into fraud status, unless they have a good reason to believe that some fraud was done.
Fraud can be due to many things.

If you think that you had done nothing wrong, as you state in your post. Please feel free to send an email about it to [email protected] and he will be more then happy to help you in getting this issue resolved ASAP.

[Antonio]

I can't seem to be able to make any sale with them
I might as well just drop them.

exactly, so they just did him a favour

[escorpio]

Exact same thing happened to me with PussyCash.

[Webby]

PussyCash is not changing accounts into fraud status, unless they have a good reason to believe that some fraud was done.
Fraud can be due to many things.

If you think that you had done nothing wrong, as you state in your post. Please feel free to send an email about it to [email protected] and he will be more then happy to help you in getting this issue resolved ASAP.

Of course - any sponsor would lay claim that they will not suspect fraud without good reason.

Why the hell can Adam not raise the initiative and email the client?? Affilates don't spend time creating material then have to chase the sponsor because the sponsor "suspects" - it never did work based on guilt without proof. If Adam wants the damned terminated accounts - let him work for it.

[LiveDose]

Thanks for the heads up.
Removed.

[pocketkangaroo]

PussyCash is not changing accounts into fraud status, unless they have a good reason to believe that some fraud was done.
Fraud can be due to many things.

Well it's 15 posts in and I've seen 2 other people already who were changed into "fraud status" for "good reason". As I said, I send cam PPC traffic and that's all.

If you think that you had done nothing wrong, as you state in your post. Please feel free to send an email about it to [email protected] and he will be more then happy to help you in getting this issue resolved ASAP.

I e-mailed Ron who was my rep. The guy was real nice after we signed up and I was looking forward to getting them into our network over the coming months. I don't need a reason at all, I just e-mailed him to let him know what I thought about the situation and being accused of committing fraud. I don't need anything resolved. There are plenty of cam sponsors out there that would be happy to take some good SE traffic. I have already gone through and taken down the links (which surprisingly still went through even though they consider my traffic fraudulent).

Again, I don't really give a shit about the account anymore. I was just curious if this was common or isolated amongst cam sponsors and Pussy Cash. It is a first for me. We send upwards of 50 signups a day to various sponsors, I'm not too concerned about being banned from one.

[traffic addict]

Of course - any sponsor would lay claim that they will not suspect fraud without good reason.

Why the hell can Adam not raise the initiative and email the client?? Affilates don't spend time creating material then have to chase the sponsor because the sponsor "suspects" - it never did work based on guilt without proof. If Adam wants the damned terminated accounts - let him work for it.

This is not realy in Adam's hands, as PussyCash is a big company, and has a compliance Dep, the account status changing is done by compliance, and changing the account back into status OK will be done by them as well.

In Most of the times Adam will contact the affilliate to see if he can be of help, but due to the Fact that Adam is in XBiz these days, it will be best if the affiliate will send him an email about it to get things rolling faster.

[pocketkangaroo]

Thanks for the heads up.
Removed.

I seriously am not trying to get people to stop promoting them. Fuck, they converted 1:173 for me this week on PPC traffic which I find to be very solid. I just want to know if this is common. I don't want to build up a few grand in sales to be banned for "fraudulent reasons".

[LiveDose]

Don't worry PC, I not that rash. But collectively the post in this thread are what I am following.

[Webby]

This is not realy in Adam's hands, as PussyCash is a big company, and has a compliance Dep, the account status changing is done by compliance, and changing the account back into status OK will be done by them as well.

In Most of the times Adam will contact the affilliate to see if he can be of help, but due to the Fact that Adam is in XBiz these days, it will be best if the affiliate will send him an email about it to get things rolling faster.

Excuse me?? What does it matter how big the company is? Do they know what they terminated or not? Who cares how "compliance" at Pussycash works?

Sure Adam may be busy - so are others. Why should they waste time chasing a sponsor because "compliance" elected to act. If Pussycash wants the accounts they terminate - deal with it.

[darksoul]

they converted 1:173 for me this week on PPC traffic

I dont know if thats normal for your campaigns but that sucks ass from my pov

[pocketkangaroo]

I dont know if thats normal for your campaigns but that sucks ass from my pov

I'm new to cams so I don't really know what normal is yet in that industry. The PPC campaign was pretty raw and the site needed a lot of tweaking still. It was still profitible. I was still testing a lot of sponsors out as well as campaigns. I was planning to take a pretty good loss for a month.

[Webby]

I'm new to cams so I don't really know what normal is yet in that industry. The PPC campaign was pretty raw and the site needed a lot of tweaking still. It was still profitible. I was still testing a lot of sponsors out as well as campaigns. I was planning to take a pretty good loss for a month.

That's actually not bad pk, especially for Pussycash conversions which are usually not that good. Not that it means much (depends on so many factors blah), - just checked last weeks overall stats on cams - least the one's where there is a level playing field and they ended up at 246:1.

[pocketkangaroo]

Did this thread earn me the distinct dishonor of the white nick? I didn't think asking if others being banned from them was a big deal.

[Webby]

Did this thread earn me the distinct dishonor of the white nick? I didn't think asking if others being banned from them was a big deal.

You have achieved that great honor pk

Frankly - I'd have done the same man. We don't cheat, scam, spam or defraud and anyone, sponsor or not, who claims otherwise is wrong - and they sure don't need to be retaining any affiliate funds - no matter how little in a payment period.

[DamageX]

Did this thread earn me the distinct dishonor of the white nick? I didn't think asking if others being banned from them was a big deal.

The distinct dishonor of the white nick happens after you click on it yourself.

[NdO]

PussyCash is not changing accounts into fraud status, unless they have a good reason to believe that some fraud was done.
Fraud can be due to many things.

If you think that you had done nothing wrong, as you state in your post. Please feel free to send an email about it to [email protected] and he will be more then happy to help you in getting this issue resolved ASAP.

Like he said mail them, or try to call them. That's the best option instead of posting a thread

[Worldnet]

Think I'll pull there ads. I got no time for bullshit.

[Shags]

Like he said mail them, or try to call them. That's the best option instead of posting a thread

They should contact him. Right?

13. TERMINATION/ CANCELLATION:
Either You or the Company may terminate at any time, and without cause, Your account on the Site, upon notification of the other party by email.

http://pussycash.com/agreement.asp

[Damian_Maxcash]

This is not realy in Adam's hands, as PussyCash is a big company, and has a compliance Dep, the account status changing is done by compliance, and changing the account back into status OK will be done by them as well.

In Most of the times Adam will contact the affilliate to see if he can be of help, but due to the Fact that Adam is in XBiz these days, it will be best if the affiliate will send him an email about it to get things rolling faster.

That post is a joke right?

Anyway

Its the same shit that Click/Cash pulls - your sign ups are not spending enough cash so they can the account. It makes sense really - why would they tolerate losing money on your account?

The alternative is to drop the payout rate - but then again they are losing money because less people would promote them.

The whole thing is a con - they con the surfer and they con the affiliate. It stinks.

[pocketkangaroo]

That post is a joke right?

Anyway

Its the same shit that Click/Cash pulls - your sign ups are not spending enough cash so they can the account. It makes sense really - why would they tolerate losing money on your account?

The alternative is to drop the payout rate - but then again they are losing money because less people would promote them.

The whole thing is a con - they con the surfer and they con the affiliate. It stinks.

I actually don't have a problem with a program dropping you for not sending sign ups who spend money. I personally think they should switch you to revshare, but it's their site, their perogative.

I've only been sending traffic for a week. I've only sent 350 uniques and 2 signups. There is no way humanly possible that they could assume in less than a week how much my sign ups would spend. Not to mention, I've hardly sent any traffic or sales to them. Plus it's not like I'm using a shady traffic source, SE traffic is as good as it gets.

[Rui]

Been on my shitlist for a good few years. Funny thing is, I don't even remember why I shitlisted them, but threads like this remind me that I made the right decision.

Wanna share your list with me?

[_Lush_]

it could have been that the 2 signups you sent maybe 1 was a stolen cc which they just did the easy(bullshit) thing to do which is term your account

even though there was no fraud on your part you just happended to send the surfer though your affiliate link.

[pornguy]

I have never had any problems with them, and have made some damn good money off of them. And I see both sides of the coin about contacting the webmaster if fraud is suspected.

[CaptainHowdy]

Thanks for the heads up, pk...

[DamageX]

Wanna share your list with me?

I might. Maybe even post it on ADX. Not sure just yet though.

[pocketkangaroo]

it could have been that the 2 signups you sent maybe 1 was a stolen cc which they just did the easy(bullshit) thing to do which is term your account

even though there was no fraud on your part you just happended to send the surfer though your affiliate link.

I was told that one of the signups I had didn't spend the $25 they put in their account. Perhaps I misunderstood him when I talked to him on the phone. He didn't say anything about fraud or a bad CC signing up though. He was looking into it further I guess.

[MaddCaz]

so you're asking if unprofessionalism, poor customer service, and general ignorance is common in adult?

yes.

[fris]

did you try hitting them up before posting this? if you have a good relationship with a sponsor you should hit up a rep and have it resolved.

[pocketkangaroo]

did you try hitting them up before posting this? if you have a good relationship with a sponsor you should hit up a rep and have it resolved.

I did and he responded back to me today and called. I wasn't coming here to get answers, just to see if others had the same issues.

[Atticus]

That post is a joke right?

Anyway

Its the same shit that Click/Cash pulls - your sign ups are not spending enough cash so they can the account. It makes sense really - why would they tolerate losing money on your account?

The alternative is to drop the payout rate - but then again they are losing money because less people would promote them.

The whole thing is a con - they con the surfer and they con the affiliate. It stinks.

To even compare the integrity of PussyCash with ClickCash is a joke. PussyCash is a highly respected company within the industry and has great webmaster support. I have never had something that I needed not taken care of immediately. On top of that ImLive converts great and they have some of the highest (if not highest) payouts around. It's a top notch company that handles themselves in a very professional manner. Which is a refreshing change compared to many companies within the cam/dating niche and the adult industry.

[pocketkangaroo]

Update: Apparently I've been reinstated. Still confused but oh well.

[will76]

That post is a joke right?

Anyway

Its the same shit that Click/Cash pulls - your sign ups are not spending enough cash so they can the account. It makes sense really - why would they tolerate losing money on your account?

The alternative is to drop the payout rate - but then again they are losing money because less people would promote them.

The whole thing is a con - they con the surfer and they con the affiliate. It stinks.

But at least Clickcash will send you an email and give you a heads up of what is going on. I have only heard of this happening to a couple people. Each time they were notified that their traffic was really really bad, and they were even offered help on how to make their advertising more productive. They were given a warning, they werent terminated first shot And they definetly werent terminated without being notified.

It's pretty shitty to terminate someone, not notify them, but continue to allow their traffic to be accepted. What if this person doesn't check stats for a few days.... seems like sponsor is stealing from them at that point. Either pay on the traffic or block it, seems like the right thing to do anyway.

[will76]

To even compare the integrity of PussyCash with ClickCash is a joke. PussyCash is a highly respected company within the industry and has great webmaster support. I have never had something that I needed not taken care of immediately. On top of that ImLive converts great and they have some of the highest (if not highest) payouts around. It's a top notch company that handles themselves in a very professional manner. Which is a refreshing change compared to many companies within the cam/dating niche and the adult industry.

see my post above... terminating someone and continuing to take their traffic with no intention of paying them, thats a joke. At least when Clickcash terminates you they block your traffic, not continue to steal it.

[DamageX]

At least when Clickcash terminates you they block your traffic, not continue to steal it.

So you mean that, unless ClickCash terminates you, they steal your traffic?

[Thumbler]

So you mean that, unless ClickCash terminates you, they steal your traffic?

Apparently so

[will76]

So you mean that, unless ClickCash terminates you, they steal your traffic?

no asswipe. if you are not terminated then you have an active account and are paid.
terminated = blocked traffic.
not terminated = traffic accepted, paid.

are you really that dumb or are you trying to be a smart ass ?