Review sites using your content? - GoFuckYourself.com

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 08:49 PM

What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

Steve Lightspeed

r-c-e · 07-12-2006, 08:53 PM

The review site can be a blessing or a hinderence. I agree, not really kosher to sell someone else's sites with your content.

fris · 07-12-2006, 08:54 PM

heh, review sites and other sites that post shit without even links.

Jace · 07-12-2006, 08:55 PM

I have been noticing lately that about half of all review sites are more trouble than they are worth....I pick and choose who reviews me VERY carefully as of lately

Theo · 07-12-2006, 08:57 PM

that would be reference to dieselaction sites ;-)

seriously now, this is lame thing to do. Many affiliates are not aware of the hard work that is envolved to produce a quality site, therefore lacking respect towards it.

MaddCaz · 07-12-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

Steve Lightspeed

uve got a good point

Taboo · 07-12-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

Steve Lightspeed

so are you saying you want ALL your content removed from ALL review sites? or is this a case by case situation? just curious.

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fris · 07-12-2006, 08:58 PM

only review site i read is thebestporn

webgurl · 07-12-2006, 08:59 PM

another thing i have encountered few times now is fake review sites
very half ass done and they claim their sites is a review site and
needs user/pass , these surfers are making fake review sites to get access
to members area now ...
BEWARE Lots of FRAUD REVIEW SITES out there

Stick with the Reputable ones !

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Taboo

so are you saying you want ALL your content removed from ALL review sites? or is this a case by case situation? just curious.

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No, I'm saying I'm about to declare war.

Doctor Dre · 07-12-2006, 09:05 PM

Steve... I'm sure you must be getting your share of traffic from review sites that promote you as their main sponsor too... you take some you leave some I guess.

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:06 PM

Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9

fris · 07-12-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9

well mostly people will forget thats why the trial goes to the full.

Taboo · 07-12-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

No, I'm saying I'm about to declare war.

Hmmm... exciting.

but, guess we'll stay out of the "site review" game.

plenty of other concepts to works on.

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SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:09 PM

Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.

Taboo · 07-12-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.

The war is ON! So there's no room for a "legit" review sites?

Alky · 07-12-2006, 09:17 PM

i'm pretty sure most review sites link to other reviews within their site.. they have been doing so a while. why did you even let them review your sites?

Brujah · 07-12-2006, 09:23 PM

Do you mean, you want Review site to lie and pretend your site is the best?

Niko Bimini · 07-12-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.

Well alrighty let me just park sig right here

xxxice · 07-12-2006, 09:25 PM

pocketkangaroo · 07-12-2006, 09:25 PM

Declare war on what? A bad review? Even if you cancel their affiliate account, they won't take down your review. It brings traffic to their site, and they'll simply downgrade your review and probably promote other sites on your page harder.

pocketkangaroo · 07-12-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9

God forbid a site lets customers know what the terms are for the site.

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:26 PM

I think a review of review sites is in order!

Brujah · 07-12-2006, 09:27 PM

I would respect an honest review site more than one that just tries to push sales. I think surfers will too.. and would avoid a dishonest review site.

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I would respect an honest review site more than one that just tries to push sales. I think surfers will too.. and would avoid a dishonest review site.

It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.

Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"

AmateurFlix · 07-12-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9

wtf?

Brujah · 07-12-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.

I agree.. BUT

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Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"

I don't think this is necessary.

I think it's possible for a good review site to be honest about it's reviews AND still have affiliate links at the same time. I don't know if any of them are, but I believe it's possible to run a good honest review site and still use affiliate links.

I've never seen a Lightspeed site/member area, etc.. and have never been an affiliate.. but if memory serves me correct, the review sites probably like your sites since your models are so popular on the net. Easily in the Top 10% if not Top 1%. I think you are your own worst enemy sometimes Steve.

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I agree.. BUT

I don't think this is necessary.

I think it's possible for a good review site to be honest about it's reviews AND still have affiliate links at the same time. I don't know if any of them are, but I believe it's possible to run a good honest review site and still use affiliate links.

I've never seen a Lightspeed site/member area, etc.. and have never been an affiliate.. but if memory serves me correct, the review sites probably like your sites since your models are so popular on the net. Easily in the Top 10% if not Top 1%. I think you are your own worst enemy sometimes Steve.

Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?

If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?

Quickdraw · 07-12-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Taboo

Hmmm... exciting.

but, guess we'll stay out of the "site review" game.

plenty of other concepts to works on.

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I think you may be misunderstanding the situation, or maybe I am.

I believe the problem is that some review sites are adding to their sites by using 'sponsor' content in their own galleries. Then within these sponsor donated galleries they are promoting other sites while utilizing other sponsor content.
Using sponsor content, and then plastering links to other sponsor sites is kinda poor taste.

I doubt Steve has a problem with review sites having a 'ranking' and links to other sites on the 'review' page itself, even though those listings might be a tad skewed

AmateurFlix · 07-12-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?

Yes 5678

Brujah · 07-12-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?

No, unless price plays a part in the overall review score. If that price means it's lower than the price for a Lightspeed site then it seems fair to average it into the score.

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If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?

From what I've noticed, you nitpick about how people promote you and make your sites explode and grow.. from domains, to urls, to reviews. Just step back and take a look at the big picture. Your sites and your models have become an internet phenomenon and I'm not exaggerating. The very things you nitpick about are a lot of the reasons for it. One thing I've noticed form Jaymancash for example is how quickly he can take a model and completely almost saturate her exposure everywhere and anywhere. Raven Riley, and now Liz Vicious have content out there all over the place, with hundreds of thousands of pages while still in beta, and rapidly growing overture counts.. not to mention thousands (yes, thousands!) of domain names all devoted to the purpose of creating a brand and making them known. If you're not careful, these clever marketers will brand you into 3rd place, 4th place, or worse!

Taboo · 07-12-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?

If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?

I noticed that too. lots of higher ranks are offering discounts...

i.e.

$14.95 per month thru TBP vs. $24.95 direct.

interesting. maybe TPB is just kicking back their 1st month's revenue-share?

AllStar · 07-12-2006, 09:57 PM

This stuff kinda cracks me up. We don't want a bad review and if we do we don't want it listed on the site...hmmm only if Hollywood had that sort of power. Unfortunatley it is part of the game!

Its like siskel and ebert (roper..whatever) reviewing 2 movies and giving you a bad review and another movie a good review, you don't want your movie on the show cause other people will go see the movie they reviewed as good!
LOL Hey Steve this America...It comes with the territory!

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AllStar

This stuff kinda cracks me up. We don't want a bad review and if we do we don't want it listed on the site...hmmm only if Hollywood had that sort of power. Unfortunatley it is part of the game!

Its like siskel and ebert (roper..whatever) reviewing 2 movies and giving you a bad review and another movie a good review, you don't want your movie on the show cause other people will go see the movie they reviewed as good!
LOL Hey Steve this America...It comes with the territory!

Wait a minute -- this analogy isn't quite right --- what if Siskel and Ebert got commissions based on how many people saw the movie because of their review?

Taboo · 07-12-2006, 10:01 PM

so what pisses sponsors off more?

1) review sites?
2) sites that use your content (to link to you) AND also feature text-ads (google, adbrite/avn, etc) for other adult sites (competitive & non)? i.e. one image linked correctly but 4 text ads on top, another 4 on bottom?

again, just curious.

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ProjectNaked · 07-12-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.

Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"

That just created a great idea - thanks

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked

That just created a great idea - thanks

How about I give it away? Review sites that are "paid inclusion" -- all at same fee per site per month/year -- with a surfers/members-only rating and ranking system?

But if someone can buy a better review, it will still be bullshit.

ProjectNaked · 07-12-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Wait a minute -- this analogy isn't quite right --- what if Siskel and Ebert got commissions based on how many people saw the movie because of their review?

not "commissions", primary income

triumph · 07-12-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I think a review of review sites is in order!

A review site about review sites!!!

paterson3713 · 07-12-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Taboo

I noticed that too. lots of higher ranks are offering discounts...

i.e.

$14.95 per month thru TBP vs. $24.95 direct.

interesting. maybe TPB is just kicking back their 1st month's revenue-share?

Isn't price an important factor when deciding to join a site? Why join a site for $29.95 when you can join a similar site with similar content and features for $19.95 instead. Why shouldn't the cheaper one get a better rating for being as good as the other one, and yet more affordable?

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by paterson3713

Isn't price an important factor when deciding to join a site? Why join a site for $29.95 when you can join a similar site with similar content and features for $19.95 instead. Why shouldn't the cheaper one get a better rating for being as good as the other one, and yet more affordable?

As I just said, let the members/surfers decide for themselves if the site was worth the price. Just give them facts about the sites, and leave the subjective BULLSHIT out of the reviews.

Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen? Better to WHO? The rating/rankings should be based on overall surfer/member SATISFACTION, not some asshole's personal opinion.

Quickdraw · 07-12-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen?

A softcore MILF of course!

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

God forbid a site lets customers know what the terms are for the site.

Better yet, why doesn't the review site actually test the real sign up and cancelation processes, and report on THAT?

paterson3713 · 07-12-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

As I just said, let the members/surfers decide for themselves if the site was worth the price. Just give them facts about the sites, and leave the subjective BULLSHIT out of the reviews.

Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen? Better to WHO? The rating/rankings should be based on overall surfer/member SATISFACTION, not some asshole's personal opinion.

Where do these sites say anything about "you should join this hardcore milf site instead of this teen one!" or "this hardcore site is way better bang for the buck than this lousy software teen site?"

Obviously it would be nice to hear about what the surfers think of the site, but I don't think that is out there. Not yet anyways.

I am chauncy · 07-12-2006, 10:23 PM

I love you steve

Phil · 07-12-2006, 10:23 PM

.. thing is that rabbit has some good stuuf to say about one of my sites but at the end it goes, "ifI were you I would pass"... and than it gets 8 out of 10 in his category.. he's been getting sign ups tho..

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by paterson3713

Where do these sites say anything about "you should join this hardcore milf site instead of this teen one!" or "this hardcore site is way better bang for the buck than this lousy software teen site?"

Obviously it would be nice to hear about what the surfers think of the site, but I don't think that is out there. Not yet anyways.

You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"

Brujah · 07-12-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"

Do you get signups from that page?

paterson3713 · 07-12-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"

So really you're complaining that there aren't "Softcore Individual" and "Hardcore Individual" categories?

SteveLightspeed · 07-12-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Do you get signups from that page?

How many people visit that page and end up signing up ELSEWHERE?

You are missing my point completely.

07-12-2006, 08:49 PM	#1
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Review sites using your content? What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!" It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site! I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games! Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra! Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-12-2006 at 08:51 PM..

07-12-2006, 08:54 PM	#3
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	heh, review sites and other sites that post shit without even links. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

07-12-2006, 08:58 PM	#8
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	only review site i read is thebestporn __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

07-12-2006, 09:06 PM	#12
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9 __________________ Abra-cadabra!

07-12-2006, 09:09 PM	#15
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass. __________________ Abra-cadabra!

07-12-2006, 08:53 PM	#2
r-c-e Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,070	The review site can be a blessing or a hinderence. I agree, not really kosher to sell someone else's sites with your content.

07-12-2006, 08:55 PM	#4
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	I have been noticing lately that about half of all review sites are more trouble than they are worth....I pick and choose who reviews me VERY carefully as of lately

07-12-2006, 08:57 PM	#5
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	that would be reference to dieselaction sites ;-) seriously now, this is lame thing to do. Many affiliates are not aware of the hard work that is envolved to produce a quality site, therefore lacking respect towards it.

07-12-2006, 08:59 PM	#9
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	another thing i have encountered few times now is fake review sites very half ass done and they claim their sites is a review site and needs user/pass , these surfers are making fake review sites to get access to members area now ... BEWARE Lots of FRAUD REVIEW SITES out there Stick with the Reputable ones !

07-12-2006, 09:17 PM	#17
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	i'm pretty sure most review sites link to other reviews within their site.. they have been doing so a while. why did you even let them review your sites?

07-12-2006, 09:23 PM	#18
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Do you mean, you want Review site to lie and pretend your site is the best? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

07-12-2006, 09:25 PM	#20
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	wow

07-12-2006, 09:25 PM	#21
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Declare war on what? A bad review? Even if you cancel their affiliate account, they won't take down your review. It brings traffic to their site, and they'll simply downgrade your review and probably promote other sites on your page harder.

07-12-2006, 09:26 PM	#23
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	I think a review of review sites is in order! __________________ Abra-cadabra!

07-12-2006, 09:27 PM	#24
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	I would respect an honest review site more than one that just tries to push sales. I think surfers will too.. and would avoid a dishonest review site. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

07-12-2006, 09:57 PM	#33
AllStar Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 461	This stuff kinda cracks me up. We don't want a bad review and if we do we don't want it listed on the site...hmmm only if Hollywood had that sort of power. Unfortunatley it is part of the game! Its like siskel and ebert (roper..whatever) reviewing 2 movies and giving you a bad review and another movie a good review, you don't want your movie on the show cause other people will go see the movie they reviewed as good! LOL Hey Steve this America...It comes with the territory!

07-12-2006, 10:01 PM	#35
Taboo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I'd rather be networking than not working. Posts: 3,700	so what pisses sponsors off more? 1) review sites? 2) sites that use your content (to link to you) AND also feature text-ads (google, adbrite/avn, etc) for other adult sites (competitive & non)? i.e. one image linked correctly but 4 text ads on top, another 4 on bottom? again, just curious. .

07-12-2006, 10:23 PM	#45
I am chauncy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 568	I love you steve

07-12-2006, 10:23 PM	#46
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	.. thing is that rabbit has some good stuuf to say about one of my sites but at the end it goes, "ifI were you I would pass"... and than it gets 8 out of 10 in his category.. he's been getting sign ups tho.. __________________ Ask Phil