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  • SteveLightspeed
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 7940

    #1

    Review sites using your content?

    What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

    It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

    I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

    Steve Lightspeed
    Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-12-2006, 07:51 PM.
    Abra-cadabra!
  • r-c-e
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2002
    • 1070

    #2
    The review site can be a blessing or a hinderence. I agree, not really kosher to sell someone else's sites with your content.

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    • fris
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2002
      • 55682

      #3
      heh, review sites and other sites that post shit without even links.
      Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.

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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        I have been noticing lately that about half of all review sites are more trouble than they are worth....I pick and choose who reviews me VERY carefully as of lately

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        • Theo
          HAL 9000
          • May 2001
          • 34515

          #5
          that would be reference to dieselaction sites ;-)

          seriously now, this is lame thing to do. Many affiliates are not aware of the hard work that is envolved to produce a quality site, therefore lacking respect towards it.

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          • MaddCaz
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2006
            • 9483

            #6
            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
            What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

            It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

            I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

            Steve Lightspeed
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            • Taboo
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 3700

              #7
              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
              What gives review sites the right to attract surfers using your content, when they list right next to your images "HERE ARE OTHER SITES WE THINK ARE EVEN BETTER!"

              It is against our program terms/conditions to use our content to promote another sponsor's sites. I don't know why any sponsor should pay an affiliate who ass-rapes them by having potential surfers diverted to another sponsor's site!

              I've had more than enough of fucked up review sites and their bullshit games!

              Steve Lightspeed

              so are you saying you want ALL your content removed from ALL review sites? or is this a case by case situation? just curious.



              .

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              • fris
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2002
                • 55682

                #8
                only review site i read is thebestporn
                Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.

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                • webgurl
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 7954

                  #9
                  another thing i have encountered few times now is fake review sites
                  very half ass done and they claim their sites is a review site and
                  needs user/pass , these surfers are making fake review sites to get access
                  to members area now ...
                  BEWARE Lots of FRAUD REVIEW SITES out there
                  Stick with the Reputable ones !

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                  • SteveLightspeed
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 7940

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Taboo
                    so are you saying you want ALL your content removed from ALL review sites? or is this a case by case situation? just curious.



                    .
                    No, I'm saying I'm about to declare war.
                    Abra-cadabra!

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                    • Doctor Dre
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 51692

                      #11
                      Steve... I'm sure you must be getting your share of traffic from review sites that promote you as their main sponsor too... you take some you leave some I guess.
                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                      • SteveLightspeed
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 7940

                        #12
                        Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

                        http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9
                        Abra-cadabra!

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                        • fris
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 55682

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                          Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

                          http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9
                          well mostly people will forget thats why the trial goes to the full.
                          Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.

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                          • Taboo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 3700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                            No, I'm saying I'm about to declare war.

                            Hmmm... exciting.

                            but, guess we'll stay out of the "site review" game. plenty of other concepts to works on.

                            .

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                            • SteveLightspeed
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 7940

                              #15
                              Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.
                              Abra-cadabra!

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                              • Taboo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 3700

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.
                                The war is ON! So there's no room for a "legit" review sites?

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                                • Alky
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 5651

                                  #17
                                  i'm pretty sure most review sites link to other reviews within their site.. they have been doing so a while. why did you even let them review your sites?

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                                  • Brujah
                                    Beer Money Baron
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 22157

                                    #18
                                    Do you mean, you want Review site to lie and pretend your site is the best?

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                                    • Niko Bimini
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 2372

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                      Let me be very clear -- TheBestPorn.com can kiss my fucking ass.


                                      Well alrighty let me just park sig right here

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                                      • xxxice
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 5042

                                        #20
                                        wow

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                                        • pocketkangaroo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 8452

                                          #21
                                          Declare war on what? A bad review? Even if you cancel their affiliate account, they won't take down your review. It brings traffic to their site, and they'll simply downgrade your review and probably promote other sites on your page harder.

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                                          • pocketkangaroo
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2005
                                            • 8452

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                            Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

                                            http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9
                                            God forbid a site lets customers know what the terms are for the site.

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                                            • SteveLightspeed
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 7940

                                              #23
                                              I think a review of review sites is in order!
                                              Abra-cadabra!

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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #24
                                                I would respect an honest review site more than one that just tries to push sales. I think surfers will too.. and would avoid a dishonest review site.

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                                                • SteveLightspeed
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 7940

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  I would respect an honest review site more than one that just tries to push sales. I think surfers will too.. and would avoid a dishonest review site.
                                                  It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.

                                                  Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"
                                                  Abra-cadabra!

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                                                  • AmateurFlix
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 7762

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                    Yeah, here's another brilliant idea --- step by step instructions for the surfer on how to cancel

                                                    http://www.thebestporn.com/articles_output.html?id=9
                                                    wtf?

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                                                    • Brujah
                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 22157

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                      It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.
                                                      I agree.. BUT

                                                      Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"
                                                      I don't think this is necessary.

                                                      I think it's possible for a good review site to be honest about it's reviews AND still have affiliate links at the same time. I don't know if any of them are, but I believe it's possible to run a good honest review site and still use affiliate links.

                                                      I've never seen a Lightspeed site/member area, etc.. and have never been an affiliate.. but if memory serves me correct, the review sites probably like your sites since your models are so popular on the net. Easily in the Top 10% if not Top 1%. I think you are your own worst enemy sometimes Steve.

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                                                      • SteveLightspeed
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 7940

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                        I agree.. BUT



                                                        I don't think this is necessary.

                                                        I think it's possible for a good review site to be honest about it's reviews AND still have affiliate links at the same time. I don't know if any of them are, but I believe it's possible to run a good honest review site and still use affiliate links.

                                                        I've never seen a Lightspeed site/member area, etc.. and have never been an affiliate.. but if memory serves me correct, the review sites probably like your sites since your models are so popular on the net. Easily in the Top 10% if not Top 1%. I think you are your own worst enemy sometimes Steve.
                                                        Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?

                                                        If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?
                                                        Abra-cadabra!

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                                                        • Quickdraw
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 1717

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Taboo
                                                          Hmmm... exciting.

                                                          but, guess we'll stay out of the "site review" game. plenty of other concepts to works on.

                                                          .
                                                          I think you may be misunderstanding the situation, or maybe I am.

                                                          I believe the problem is that some review sites are adding to their sites by using 'sponsor' content in their own galleries. Then within these sponsor donated galleries they are promoting other sites while utilizing other sponsor content.
                                                          Using sponsor content, and then plastering links to other sponsor sites is kinda poor taste.

                                                          I doubt Steve has a problem with review sites having a 'ranking' and links to other sites on the 'review' page itself, even though those listings might be a tad skewed

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                                                          • AmateurFlix
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                            • 7762

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                            If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?
                                                            Yes 5678

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                                                            • Brujah
                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 22157

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                              Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?
                                                              No, unless price plays a part in the overall review score. If that price means it's lower than the price for a Lightspeed site then it seems fair to average it into the score.

                                                              If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?
                                                              From what I've noticed, you nitpick about how people promote you and make your sites explode and grow.. from domains, to urls, to reviews. Just step back and take a look at the big picture. Your sites and your models have become an internet phenomenon and I'm not exaggerating. The very things you nitpick about are a lot of the reasons for it. One thing I've noticed form Jaymancash for example is how quickly he can take a model and completely almost saturate her exposure everywhere and anywhere. Raven Riley, and now Liz Vicious have content out there all over the place, with hundreds of thousands of pages while still in beta, and rapidly growing overture counts.. not to mention thousands (yes, thousands!) of domain names all devoted to the purpose of creating a brand and making them known. If you're not careful, these clever marketers will brand you into 3rd place, 4th place, or worse!

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                                                              • Taboo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 3700

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                Do you think its ethical for Thebestporn to offer a higher score to sites that give TBP's surfers an exclusive discount on memberships?

                                                                If I agreed to that, wouldn't I effectively be fucking over ALL my OTHER affiliates?
                                                                I noticed that too. lots of higher ranks are offering discounts...

                                                                i.e.

                                                                $14.95 per month thru TBP vs. $24.95 direct.


                                                                interesting. maybe TPB is just kicking back their 1st month's revenue-share?

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                                                                • AllStar
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                  • 461

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This stuff kinda cracks me up. We don't want a bad review and if we do we don't want it listed on the site...hmmm only if Hollywood had that sort of power. Unfortunatley it is part of the game!

                                                                  Its like siskel and ebert (roper..whatever) reviewing 2 movies and giving you a bad review and another movie a good review, you don't want your movie on the show cause other people will go see the movie they reviewed as good!
                                                                  LOL Hey Steve this America...It comes with the territory!
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                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 7940

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by AllStar
                                                                    This stuff kinda cracks me up. We don't want a bad review and if we do we don't want it listed on the site...hmmm only if Hollywood had that sort of power. Unfortunatley it is part of the game!

                                                                    Its like siskel and ebert (roper..whatever) reviewing 2 movies and giving you a bad review and another movie a good review, you don't want your movie on the show cause other people will go see the movie they reviewed as good!
                                                                    LOL Hey Steve this America...It comes with the territory!
                                                                    Wait a minute -- this analogy isn't quite right --- what if Siskel and Ebert got commissions based on how many people saw the movie because of their review?
                                                                    Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-12-2006, 09:01 PM.
                                                                    Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                    • Taboo
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 3700

                                                                      #35
                                                                      so what pisses sponsors off more?

                                                                      1) review sites?
                                                                      2) sites that use your content (to link to you) AND also feature text-ads (google, adbrite/avn, etc) for other adult sites (competitive & non)? i.e. one image linked correctly but 4 text ads on top, another 4 on bottom?

                                                                      again, just curious.

                                                                      .

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                                                                      • ProjectNaked
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 4309

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                        It will never be "honest" as long as the review site is giving the best scores to the sites they profit most from.

                                                                        Remove the affiliate links from ALL reviews it you want to be "honest"
                                                                        That just created a great idea - thanks

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                                                                        • SteveLightspeed
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 7940

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by ProjectNaked
                                                                          That just created a great idea - thanks
                                                                          How about I give it away? Review sites that are "paid inclusion" -- all at same fee per site per month/year -- with a surfers/members-only rating and ranking system?

                                                                          But if someone can buy a better review, it will still be bullshit.
                                                                          Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-12-2006, 09:08 PM.
                                                                          Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                          • ProjectNaked
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                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                            • 4309

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                            Wait a minute -- this analogy isn't quite right --- what if Siskel and Ebert got commissions based on how many people saw the movie because of their review?
                                                                            not "commissions", primary income

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                                                                            • triumph
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 3433

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                              I think a review of review sites is in order!

                                                                              A review site about review sites!!!

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                                                                              • paterson3713
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                • 190

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Taboo
                                                                                I noticed that too. lots of higher ranks are offering discounts...

                                                                                i.e.

                                                                                $14.95 per month thru TBP vs. $24.95 direct.


                                                                                interesting. maybe TPB is just kicking back their 1st month's revenue-share?
                                                                                Isn't price an important factor when deciding to join a site? Why join a site for $29.95 when you can join a similar site with similar content and features for $19.95 instead. Why shouldn't the cheaper one get a better rating for being as good as the other one, and yet more affordable?

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                                                                                • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 7940

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by paterson3713
                                                                                  Isn't price an important factor when deciding to join a site? Why join a site for $29.95 when you can join a similar site with similar content and features for $19.95 instead. Why shouldn't the cheaper one get a better rating for being as good as the other one, and yet more affordable?
                                                                                  As I just said, let the members/surfers decide for themselves if the site was worth the price. Just give them facts about the sites, and leave the subjective BULLSHIT out of the reviews.

                                                                                  Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen? Better to WHO? The rating/rankings should be based on overall surfer/member SATISFACTION, not some asshole's personal opinion.
                                                                                  Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                  • Quickdraw
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                    • 1717

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                                    Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen?
                                                                                    A softcore MILF of course!

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                                                                                    • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 7940

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                      God forbid a site lets customers know what the terms are for the site.
                                                                                      Better yet, why doesn't the review site actually test the real sign up and cancelation processes, and report on THAT?
                                                                                      Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                      • paterson3713
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                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                        • 190

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                                        As I just said, let the members/surfers decide for themselves if the site was worth the price. Just give them facts about the sites, and leave the subjective BULLSHIT out of the reviews.

                                                                                        Which is better, a hardcore milf or a softcore teen? Better to WHO? The rating/rankings should be based on overall surfer/member SATISFACTION, not some asshole's personal opinion.
                                                                                        Where do these sites say anything about "you should join this hardcore milf site instead of this teen one!" or "this hardcore site is way better bang for the buck than this lousy software teen site?"

                                                                                        Obviously it would be nice to hear about what the surfers think of the site, but I don't think that is out there. Not yet anyways.

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                                                                                        • I am chauncy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 568

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I love you steve
                                                                                          "Catch a man a fish, and you can sell it to him. Teach a man to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity."
                                                                                          Karl Marx
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                                                                                          • Phil
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 7659

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            .. thing is that rabbit has some good stuuf to say about one of my sites but at the end it goes, "ifI were you I would pass"... and than it gets 8 out of 10 in his category.. he's been getting sign ups tho..
                                                                                            Ask Phil

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                                                                                            • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 7940

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by paterson3713
                                                                                              Where do these sites say anything about "you should join this hardcore milf site instead of this teen one!" or "this hardcore site is way better bang for the buck than this lousy software teen site?"

                                                                                              Obviously it would be nice to hear about what the surfers think of the site, but I don't think that is out there. Not yet anyways.
                                                                                              You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
                                                                                              http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

                                                                                              On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"
                                                                                              Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-12-2006, 09:26 PM.
                                                                                              Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                              • Brujah
                                                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                • 22157

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
                                                                                                http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

                                                                                                On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"
                                                                                                Do you get signups from that page?

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                                                                                                • paterson3713
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 190

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                  You are kidding right? Have you even looked?
                                                                                                  http://www.thebestporn.com/review/tawneestone/

                                                                                                  On the left column -- "Here are 15 sites that we ranked higher"
                                                                                                  So really you're complaining that there aren't "Softcore Individual" and "Hardcore Individual" categories?

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                                                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 7940

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                    Do you get signups from that page?
                                                                                                    How many people visit that page and end up signing up ELSEWHERE?

                                                                                                    You are missing my point completely.
                                                                                                    Abra-cadabra!

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