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Jace · 07-12-2006, 12:49 AM

Why is it that we always have to be labeled into a political party?

I am such a mix of all parties I never really know what to say I am....by definition I guess am liberal, but I don't think the actual definition is what matters anymore

babsy · 07-12-2006, 12:59 AM

For the same reason we have stereotypes - basically, we don't have enough time in our life to get to know the intricate ins and outs of every single person on the planet, so we have to, by the very virtue of the impossibility of spending years getting to know six billion people, label people.

As an example, I stereotype African Americans as not enjoying Horseback Polo. If you're an African American and you find that offensive, then feel free to correct me! However, until the day I'm proven wrong, then why not let that assumption stand? It's the only way I can get to know at least a little bit about every African American on the planet.

Doctor Dre · 07-12-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by babsy

For the same reason we have stereotypes - basically, we don't have enough time in our life to get to know the intricate ins and outs of every single person on the planet, so we have to, by the very virtue of the impossibility of spending years getting to know six billion people, label people.

As an example, I stereotype African Americans as not enjoying Horseback Polo. If you're an African American and you find that offensive, then feel free to correct me! However, until the day I'm proven wrong, then why not let that assumption stand? It's the only way I can get to know at least a little bit about every African American on the planet.

Did you get that quote out of a movie or something ? that was just a great explaination about why sterotypes can be usefull...

OG LennyT · 07-12-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by babsy

For the same reason we have stereotypes - basically, we don't have enough time in our life to get to know the intricate ins and outs of every single person on the planet, so we have to, by the very virtue of the impossibility of spending years getting to know six billion people, label people.

As an example, I stereotype African Americans as not enjoying Horseback Polo. If you're an African American and you find that offensive, then feel free to correct me! However, until the day I'm proven wrong, then why not let that assumption stand? It's the only way I can get to know at least a little bit about every African American on the planet.

I know blacks cant play hockey but have bigger dicks than me

Double L · 07-12-2006, 01:05 AM

With only 2 major parties its hard to be labeled into 1 on just your basic beliefs... Of course those in the middle are swingers

pocketkangaroo · 07-12-2006, 01:07 AM

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

Kimo · 07-12-2006, 01:09 AM

your not red yuour not blue your purple!

Big_Red · 07-12-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

This is where you needed to insert a sheep picture. That woulda summed it up. heh

babsy · 07-12-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Did you get that quote out of a movie or something ? that was just a great explaination about why sterotypes can be usefull...

No, I'm just very, very smart :D

woj · 07-12-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

Sarah_Jayne · 07-12-2006, 02:01 AM

I'm an independent. People just tend to want to 'belong' wether it is a political party or something else.

emthree · 07-12-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by babsy

For the same reason we have stereotypes - basically, we don't have enough time in our life to get to know the intricate ins and outs of every single person on the planet, so we have to, by the very virtue of the impossibility of spending years getting to know six billion people, label people.

As an example, I stereotype African Americans as not enjoying Horseback Polo. If you're an African American and you find that offensive, then feel free to correct me! However, until the day I'm proven wrong, then why not let that assumption stand? It's the only way I can get to know at least a little bit about every African American on the planet.

You make so much sense.

FunForOne · 07-12-2006, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

Why is it that we always have to be labeled into a political party?

I am such a mix of all parties I never really know what to say I am....by definition I guess am liberal, but I don't think the actual definition is what matters anymore

It is very complicated, but every life cylce of a product or industry will ultimately be reduced to two competitors in the maturity stage. (See life cycle curves in your local MBA class)

Politics is no different. You identify with one of the other.

Either you understand the trickle down theory and enjoy being rewarded for what you actually earn when you contribute to our society, or you dont mind your young kids growing up in a society where it is ok for men to get each other's poop on their dicks.

Just pick one and vote for the party that tells you their only concern is you.

FunForOne · 07-12-2006, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

Why is it that we always have to be labeled into a political party?

I am such a mix of all parties I never really know what to say I am....by definition I guess am liberal, but I don't think the actual definition is what matters anymore

It is very complicated, but every life cylce of a product or industry will ultimately be reduced to two competitors in the maturity stage. (See life cycle curves in your local MBA class)

Politics is no different. You identify with one of the other.

Either you understand the trickle down theory and enjoy being rewarded for what you actually earn when you contribute to our society, or you dont mind your young kids growing up in a society where it is ok for men to get each other's poop on their dicks.

Just pick one and vote for the party that tells you their only concern is you.

xcitecash · 07-12-2006, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

Why is it that we always have to be labeled into a political party?

I am such a mix of all parties I never really know what to say I am....by definition I guess am liberal, but I don't think the actual definition is what matters anymore

this is one of my favorite questions...

as i consider my political views extreme in lots of ways both socialist and fascist.

i can see good in both extreme's and see no wrong in it

DWB · 07-12-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

Jace · 07-12-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

It is very complicated, but every life cylce of a product or industry will ultimately be reduced to two competitors in the maturity stage. (See life cycle curves in your local MBA class)

Politics is no different. You identify with one of the other.

Either you understand the trickle down theory and enjoy being rewarded for what you actually earn when you contribute to our society, or you dont mind your young kids growing up in a society where it is ok for men to get each other's poop on their dicks.

Just pick one and vote for the party that tells you their only concern is you.

what if I agree with multiple points in all parties?

and what about women to get vagina slime on each others tongues? it is funny, but when the gay issue comes up it is almost always about gay men, and not gay women....after all, a very loud republican once told me "men having sex is wrong, but women having sex is natural!"

Webby · 07-12-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

Depending on the level of politics (and in some nations that sure as fuck leaves a lot to be desired), - labels are used by parties to manipulate, divide - and hopefully conquer. That sure is not one bit helpful to any nation.

notabook · 07-12-2006, 04:13 AM

Because we as humans feel the need to congeal into one large macroorganism. We can?t be satisfied being single celled individuals in a petri dish, we?re always afraid that some big black cell is going to come along and absorb our pure whiteness. That is also the reason that we like to weed out non-white (i.e. impure) cells out of our petri dish systematically over years and years and years by injecting portions of our pure whiteness into their impure cell membranes. Over many generations, we?ll ultimately destroy their impurity and replace them completely by white-cell superiority. We call this process Assimilation and through it we will better humanity as a whole.

And that is why multiple party systems exist and that is why you must belong to one. Otherwise you are just begging to be destroyed by black, usually virus-infected, cells.

Jace · 07-12-2006, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook

Because we as humans feel the need to congeal into one large macroorganism. We can?t be satisfied being single celled individuals in a petri dish, we?re always afraid that some big black cell is going to come along and absorb our pure whiteness. That is also the reason that we like to weed out non-white (i.e. impure) cells out of our petri dish systematically over years and years and years by injecting portions of our pure whiteness into their impure cell membranes. Over many generations, we?ll ultimately destroy their impurity and replace them completely by white-cell superiority. We call this process Assimilation and through it we will better humanity as a whole.

And that is why multiple party systems exist and that is why you must belong to one. Otherwise you are just begging to be destroyed by black, usually virus-infected, cells.

LOL

anyone else sense some serious racism in this post?

StuartD · 07-12-2006, 04:23 AM

I find it humorous... the moment I didn't agree with the invasion on Iraq based on lies... I was labled a stupid liberal. When the US finally gets off it's ass and takes N. Korea off the map, and I cheer.... the liberals will call me a hateful republican.

I guess basically, it goes like this:
Don't agree with the liberals, you're a war mongering republican.
Don't agree with the republicans, you're a do nothing liberal.

Mikey_219Inc · 07-12-2006, 04:30 AM

this is the man trying to keep us fighting against each other instead of paying attention to how bad we are getting collectively fucked.

BlackCrayon · 07-12-2006, 04:31 AM

its a lot easier for others to pigeonhole you into a group that they can bash.

ADL Colin · 07-12-2006, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

I find it humorous... the moment I didn't agree with the invasion on Iraq based on lies... I was labled a stupid liberal. When the US finally gets off it's ass and takes N. Korea off the map, and I cheer.... the liberals will call me a hateful republican.

I guess basically, it goes like this:
Don't agree with the liberals, you're a war mongering republican.
Don't agree with the republicans, you're a do nothing liberal.

So true. I am not a member of either party and have liked some Republican and Democratic presidents. There are viewpoints in both parties I agree with. I have been called both a "stupid liberal" and a "stupid republican" over the years.

NikKay · 07-12-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

It is very complicated, but every life cylce of a product or industry will ultimately be reduced to two competitors in the maturity stage. (See life cycle curves in your local MBA class)

Politics is no different. You identify with one of the other.

Either you understand the trickle down theory and enjoy being rewarded for what you actually earn when you contribute to our society, or you dont mind your young kids growing up in a society where it is ok for men to get each other's poop on their dicks.

Just pick one and vote for the party that tells you their only concern is you.

You scare me.

Tdog · 07-12-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd316

I know blacks cant play hockey but have bigger dicks than me

I dont think African Americans like the cold, thats why they are not good at hockey.

AmateurFlix · 07-12-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves.

There's really not much other point for the party system

scottybuzz · 07-12-2006, 08:35 AM

when i go to vote, i cross all the boxes and tick void, it shows i voted but shows i dont like any of the parties.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-12-2006, 09:09 AM

It's not necessary to be classified into a political party.

The main benefit in the U.S. to declaring a political party (i.e., registering as a Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc), is the ability to vote in your parties' primary election to select candidates.

While it's true that many people declare that they are of one party or another because they identify with certain positions of a Party platform which is at odds with the other parties, even within parties many people are opposed to major positions of their own party.

For example, there are Republicans whom are pro-choice and who support gay rights, and there are Democrats who are for pro-lfe and support school vouchers.

Some live with the differences and try to change their party, while others look at other issues and feel they take precedence.

When it comes time to vote in a general election, each person votes as they wish, unhindered by party affiliation. Hence, Arnold can become Governor in California, even though registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans by a large margin.

The problems with American politics run much deeper than political alliance, which is drawn mostly upon social issues. For example on taxes. The Republicans claim to be against raising taxes, yet there is as much spent on pork barrel projects in red states as there are in blue ones, and it's undeniable how the current Administration has directed billions of dollars of government money to corporations which support their Party.

A lot of it is about spin. Create a tax cut that primarily benefits the richest people, and then spin it as if you helped all. Meanwhile you run up the national deficit to pay for your tax cut.

As far as I am concerned, the Republicans and Democrats are in cahoots in many if not most instances. real alternatives and creative solutions to the problems confronting the country are likely to occur given the status quo.

Infortunately, with our non-parlimentary form of government, it is exceedingly difficult for any third party to make a difference. Votes for them tend to hurt the major party they are most closely aligned with.

Many pundits are suggesting that the Democrats have a chance to retake the White House in the next election, however I have been hearing that Sen. Joe Lieberman from the party's more conservative faction may run as an independent.

As close as the past two elections have been, it is a distinct possibility that Lieberman, who has virtually no chance of winning as an independentm, could essentially hand over the Presidency to the party that was his rival his entire policitical career if he chooses to run as an independent.

True, there are problems with parlimentary style governments as well, however they do offer some voice for minority parties to be heard or to effect change. Nonetheless, with the two parties so firmly entrenched and opposed to sharing power with, or opening up politics in any meaningful way to third parties (they have make it harder for parties like the Greens to get matching funds, etc), I don't expect much change anytime soon.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-12-2006, 09:14 AM

Aargh...bring back the 2 or 3-minute edit rule. (I meant "NOT" likely to change, and of course it's "Unfortunately" not "infortuantely". Oh bother!!!

Can we have a vote on this?

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07-12-2006, 12:49 AM	#1
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	Why is it necessary to be classfied into a political party? Why is it that we always have to be labeled into a political party? I am such a mix of all parties I never really know what to say I am....by definition I guess am liberal, but I don't think the actual definition is what matters anymore

07-12-2006, 12:59 AM	#2
babsy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cashapartment.com Posts: 282	For the same reason we have stereotypes - basically, we don't have enough time in our life to get to know the intricate ins and outs of every single person on the planet, so we have to, by the very virtue of the impossibility of spending years getting to know six billion people, label people. As an example, I stereotype African Americans as not enjoying Horseback Polo. If you're an African American and you find that offensive, then feel free to correct me! However, until the day I'm proven wrong, then why not let that assumption stand? It's the only way I can get to know at least a little bit about every African American on the planet. __________________ CASH APARTMENT V2 IS HERE! NATS POWERED, 60-70% ON ALL REBILLS, FREE CONTENT, MGPS, FHGS, RETAINING MEMBERS NETWORK! A SIMPLE NO B.S PROGRAM - ICQ 239 806 698

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Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	your not red yuour not blue your purple! __________________ ...

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notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	Because we as humans feel the need to congeal into one large macroorganism. We can?t be satisfied being single celled individuals in a petri dish, we?re always afraid that some big black cell is going to come along and absorb our pure whiteness. That is also the reason that we like to weed out non-white (i.e. impure) cells out of our petri dish systematically over years and years and years by injecting portions of our pure whiteness into their impure cell membranes. Over many generations, we?ll ultimately destroy their impurity and replace them completely by white-cell superiority. We call this process Assimilation and through it we will better humanity as a whole. And that is why multiple party systems exist and that is why you must belong to one. Otherwise you are just begging to be destroyed by black, usually virus-infected, cells. __________________

07-12-2006, 04:30 AM	#22
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	this is the man trying to keep us fighting against each other instead of paying attention to how bad we are getting collectively fucked. __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

07-12-2006, 01:05 AM	#5
Double L Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: US Posts: 349	With only 2 major parties its hard to be labeled into 1 on just your basic beliefs... Of course those in the middle are swingers

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	To be honest, I think parties are for idiots who can't think for themselves. I understand considering yourself mostly a liberal or conservative, but those guys who just believe every word that comes out of the parties mouth have no mind of their own and are detrimental to the country.

07-12-2006, 02:01 AM	#11
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I'm an independent. People just tend to want to 'belong' wether it is a political party or something else.

07-12-2006, 04:23 AM	#21
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I find it humorous... the moment I didn't agree with the invasion on Iraq based on lies... I was labled a stupid liberal. When the US finally gets off it's ass and takes N. Korea off the map, and I cheer.... the liberals will call me a hateful republican. I guess basically, it goes like this: Don't agree with the liberals, you're a war mongering republican. Don't agree with the republicans, you're a do nothing liberal.

07-12-2006, 04:31 AM	#23
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	its a lot easier for others to pigeonhole you into a group that they can bash. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	when i go to vote, i cross all the boxes and tick void, it shows i voted but shows i dont like any of the parties. __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

07-12-2006, 09:09 AM	#29
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	It's not necessary to be classified into a political party. The main benefit in the U.S. to declaring a political party (i.e., registering as a Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc), is the ability to vote in your parties' primary election to select candidates. While it's true that many people declare that they are of one party or another because they identify with certain positions of a Party platform which is at odds with the other parties, even within parties many people are opposed to major positions of their own party. For example, there are Republicans whom are pro-choice and who support gay rights, and there are Democrats who are for pro-lfe and support school vouchers. Some live with the differences and try to change their party, while others look at other issues and feel they take precedence. When it comes time to vote in a general election, each person votes as they wish, unhindered by party affiliation. Hence, Arnold can become Governor in California, even though registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans by a large margin. The problems with American politics run much deeper than political alliance, which is drawn mostly upon social issues. For example on taxes. The Republicans claim to be against raising taxes, yet there is as much spent on pork barrel projects in red states as there are in blue ones, and it's undeniable how the current Administration has directed billions of dollars of government money to corporations which support their Party. A lot of it is about spin. Create a tax cut that primarily benefits the richest people, and then spin it as if you helped all. Meanwhile you run up the national deficit to pay for your tax cut. As far as I am concerned, the Republicans and Democrats are in cahoots in many if not most instances. real alternatives and creative solutions to the problems confronting the country are likely to occur given the status quo. Infortunately, with our non-parlimentary form of government, it is exceedingly difficult for any third party to make a difference. Votes for them tend to hurt the major party they are most closely aligned with. Many pundits are suggesting that the Democrats have a chance to retake the White House in the next election, however I have been hearing that Sen. Joe Lieberman from the party's more conservative faction may run as an independent. As close as the past two elections have been, it is a distinct possibility that Lieberman, who has virtually no chance of winning as an independentm, could essentially hand over the Presidency to the party that was his rival his entire policitical career if he chooses to run as an independent. True, there are problems with parlimentary style governments as well, however they do offer some voice for minority parties to be heard or to effect change. Nonetheless, with the two parties so firmly entrenched and opposed to sharing power with, or opening up politics in any meaningful way to third parties (they have make it harder for parties like the Greens to get matching funds, etc), I don't expect much change anytime soon. ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

07-12-2006, 09:14 AM	#30
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Aargh...bring back the 2 or 3-minute edit rule. (I meant "NOT" likely to change, and of course it's "Unfortunately" not "infortuantely". Oh bother!!! Can we have a vote on this? ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)