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evulvmedia · 07-11-2006, 07:50 AM

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Tom_PM · 07-11-2006, 07:53 AM

That's so blatantly fucked up it's not even funny. FUBAR.

donnie · 07-11-2006, 08:08 AM

WTF! USA is turning into Iran

Pleasurepays · 07-11-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

That's so blatantly fucked up it's not even funny. FUBAR.

typical.... everyone loves freedom of speech until they don't agree with whats being said.

Tom_PM · 07-11-2006, 08:28 AM

Nah Pleasurepays, I have no problem with the church speaking all they want about america and jesus hand in hand til they're blue in the face.

I think whats FUBAR is that the original colonists came here to escape religious persecution by their government, and here we are today. Liberty is to be liberated FROM something. For the colonists, it was religion.

So yeah, I see a church statue like that as FUBAR. Thats my free speech ;)

Probono · 07-11-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

typical.... everyone loves freedom of speech until they don't agree with whats being said.

Painfully you are right. I however wonder how you would feel if she was dressed in a burka and was holding a Molotov cocktail ready to throw?

Tom_PM · 07-11-2006, 08:30 AM

I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.

sukime69 · 07-11-2006, 08:42 AM

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I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.

Seems to be a bit of art imitating life. Over the past 6 years, the US has already lost much of it's freedom, kids are being forced to pray in schools and the christian right wing holds most of the power.

AmateurFlix · 07-11-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.

The Duck · 07-11-2006, 08:42 AM

Fuck yeah, that is awesome.

fallenmuffin · 07-11-2006, 08:44 AM

Christians are destorying the world. But even though I don't agree with that they say, I'll fight so they can say it.

stickyfingerz · 07-11-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Nah Pleasurepays, I have no problem with the church speaking all they want about america and jesus hand in hand til they're blue in the face.

I think whats FUBAR is that the original colonists came here to escape religious persecution by their government, and here we are today. Liberty is to be liberated FROM something. For the colonists, it was religion.

So yeah, I see a church statue like that as FUBAR. Thats my free speech ;)

No the original founders came here so they would be free to practice the religion they choose to practice. They came here for Freedom of religion, not from.

stickyfingerz · 07-11-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sukime69

Seems to be a bit of art imitating life. Over the past 6 years, the US has already lost much of it's freedom, kids are being forced to pray in schools and the christian right wing holds most of the power.

What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

Tom_PM · 07-11-2006, 08:48 AM

6 of one half dozen of the other, stickyfingerz.

To be able to practice the religion you want is the same as not having to practice any specific religion whether you chose it or not. So it's of, and from at the same time.

areese · 07-11-2006, 08:54 AM

Religious groups want control of government for two reasons - both are bad:

One - for an economic "leg up" on the other religious groups. This is bad government because it basically takes care of one group of the population and either ignores or punishes the other(s). As with any abuse of power, the core individuals in such movements are often reaping huge financial rewards from the rank and file faithful, abusing people's faith in god solely as an enterprise to enrich themselves.

Two - nobody wins a religious argument. However, if one group of people have access to the police, then they can arrest, detain, intimidate and ultimately shoot the other group to make them shutup. It always deteriorateds to this with every religious government. Every single one of them thinks that they are different and none of them are. This is because of one simple reason: Nobody has any proof that what they believe about god is at all true in any way. That's why we call it Faith. If it were provable, it would be called Fact. When we try to treat Faith like Fact, we have a word for that - Insane.

sukime69 · 07-11-2006, 09:11 AM

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What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Beliefs/sto...1028366&page=1

Just one of many cases.

Stamen · 07-11-2006, 09:21 AM

Since it's being built on church property with church funds then I don't really have a problem with it, but if I lived in that town I'd be petitioning the city council to get that thing taken down because it's an eyesore.

But yah, it's noted that it seems like an eerie mirror into where the country has steered in the past few years, and I don't care for it.

BoyAlley · 07-11-2006, 09:28 AM

"America belonging to God through Jesus Christ."

All of America are Belong To Jebus!

notabook · 07-11-2006, 09:31 AM

Man I'm so glad churches are wasting money in ways like this. Now they'll have less money to corrupt our youth with

woj · 07-11-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook

Man I'm so glad churches are wasting money in ways like this. Now they'll have less money to corrupt our youth with

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Nah Pleasurepays, I have no problem with the church speaking all they want about america and jesus hand in hand til they're blue in the face. I think whats FUBAR is that the original colonists came here to escape religious persecution by their government, and here we are today. Liberty is to be liberated FROM something. For the colonists, it was religion. So yeah, I see a church statue like that as FUBAR. Thats my free speech ;) __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	6 of one half dozen of the other, stickyfingerz. To be able to practice the religion you want is the same as not having to practice any specific religion whether you chose it or not. So it's of, and from at the same time. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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areese Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: chicago, toronto Posts: 31	Religious groups want control of government for two reasons - both are bad: One - for an economic "leg up" on the other religious groups. This is bad government because it basically takes care of one group of the population and either ignores or punishes the other(s). As with any abuse of power, the core individuals in such movements are often reaping huge financial rewards from the rank and file faithful, abusing people's faith in god solely as an enterprise to enrich themselves. Two - nobody wins a religious argument. However, if one group of people have access to the police, then they can arrest, detain, intimidate and ultimately shoot the other group to make them shutup. It always deteriorateds to this with every religious government. Every single one of them thinks that they are different and none of them are. This is because of one simple reason: Nobody has any proof that what they believe about god is at all true in any way. That's why we call it Faith. If it were provable, it would be called Fact. When we try to treat Faith like Fact, we have a word for that - Insane.

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Stamen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vegas Posts: 698	Since it's being built on church property with church funds then I don't really have a problem with it, but if I lived in that town I'd be petitioning the city council to get that thing taken down because it's an eyesore. But yah, it's noted that it seems like an eerie mirror into where the country has steered in the past few years, and I don't care for it. __________________ Show me the pistil porn!

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BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	"America belonging to God through Jesus Christ." All of America are Belong To Jebus!

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