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evulvmedia 07-11-2006 07:50 AM

the end of American Freedom has arrived! *pic*
 
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Tom_PM 07-11-2006 07:53 AM

That's so blatantly fucked up it's not even funny. FUBAR.

donnie 07-11-2006 08:08 AM

WTF! USA is turning into Iran :)

Pleasurepays 07-11-2006 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
That's so blatantly fucked up it's not even funny. FUBAR.

typical.... everyone loves freedom of speech until they don't agree with whats being said.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 07-11-2006 08:28 AM

Nah Pleasurepays, I have no problem with the church speaking all they want about america and jesus hand in hand til they're blue in the face. :)

I think whats FUBAR is that the original colonists came here to escape religious persecution by their government, and here we are today. Liberty is to be liberated FROM something. For the colonists, it was religion.

So yeah, I see a church statue like that as FUBAR. Thats my free speech ;)

Probono 07-11-2006 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
typical.... everyone loves freedom of speech until they don't agree with whats being said.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Painfully you are right. I however wonder how you would feel if she was dressed in a burka and was holding a Molotov cocktail ready to throw?

Tom_PM 07-11-2006 08:30 AM

I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.

sukime69 07-11-2006 08:42 AM

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I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.
Seems to be a bit of art imitating life. Over the past 6 years, the US has already lost much of it's freedom, kids are being forced to pray in schools and the christian right wing holds most of the power.

AmateurFlix 07-11-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
I'll add that I think it'd be a great piece for a museum. Taking a symbol of liberty and having it hold the ten commandments and the instrument of jesus' death is true irony. Excellent artistic statement. Strange as hell for a church to erect in public though is my opinion, lol.

:1orglaugh

The Duck 07-11-2006 08:42 AM

Fuck yeah, that is awesome.

fallenmuffin 07-11-2006 08:44 AM

Christians are destorying the world. But even though I don't agree with that they say, I'll fight so they can say it.

stickyfingerz 07-11-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
Nah Pleasurepays, I have no problem with the church speaking all they want about america and jesus hand in hand til they're blue in the face. :)

I think whats FUBAR is that the original colonists came here to escape religious persecution by their government, and here we are today. Liberty is to be liberated FROM something. For the colonists, it was religion.

So yeah, I see a church statue like that as FUBAR. Thats my free speech ;)


No the original founders came here so they would be free to practice the religion they choose to practice. They came here for Freedom of religion, not from. :2 cents:

stickyfingerz 07-11-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sukime69
Seems to be a bit of art imitating life. Over the past 6 years, the US has already lost much of it's freedom, kids are being forced to pray in schools and the christian right wing holds most of the power.

What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

Tom_PM 07-11-2006 08:48 AM

6 of one half dozen of the other, stickyfingerz.

To be able to practice the religion you want is the same as not having to practice any specific religion whether you chose it or not. So it's of, and from at the same time.

areese 07-11-2006 08:54 AM

Religious groups want control of government for two reasons - both are bad:

One - for an economic "leg up" on the other religious groups. This is bad government because it basically takes care of one group of the population and either ignores or punishes the other(s). As with any abuse of power, the core individuals in such movements are often reaping huge financial rewards from the rank and file faithful, abusing people's faith in god solely as an enterprise to enrich themselves.

Two - nobody wins a religious argument. However, if one group of people have access to the police, then they can arrest, detain, intimidate and ultimately shoot the other group to make them shutup. It always deteriorateds to this with every religious government. Every single one of them thinks that they are different and none of them are. This is because of one simple reason: Nobody has any proof that what they believe about god is at all true in any way. That's why we call it Faith. If it were provable, it would be called Fact. When we try to treat Faith like Fact, we have a word for that - Insane.

sukime69 07-11-2006 09:11 AM

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What in the fucking hell are you talking about?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Beliefs/sto...1028366&page=1

Just one of many cases.

Stamen 07-11-2006 09:21 AM

Since it's being built on church property with church funds then I don't really have a problem with it, but if I lived in that town I'd be petitioning the city council to get that thing taken down because it's an eyesore.

But yah, it's noted that it seems like an eerie mirror into where the country has steered in the past few years, and I don't care for it.

BoyAlley 07-11-2006 09:28 AM

"America belonging to God through Jesus Christ."

All of America are Belong To Jebus! :Oh crap :helpme

notabook 07-11-2006 09:31 AM

Man I'm so glad churches are wasting money in ways like this. Now they'll have less money to corrupt our youth with :thumbsup

woj 07-11-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook
Man I'm so glad churches are wasting money in ways like this. Now they'll have less money to corrupt our youth with :thumbsup

:1orglaugh :thumbsup


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