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nocostporn 06-05-2002 01:45 AM

I actually liked reading this thread...


Now let's get to the bottomline... If an adult(18+) doesnt own a credit card,WHY would you want his traffic in the first place? You will never make money from him nor the people under 18... An AVS restriction would basically make the freeloaders with cards USE THEM... Freedom of speech has nothing to do with this... You all are saying it's a freedom of speech violation to not let somebody use MY service for free? That's complete bullshit

Yes the amount of traffic would decrease to sites but the over all quality of surfers coming to your site will be looking to buy....
:2 cents:

The Machine 06-05-2002 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
I actually liked reading this thread...


Now let's get to the bottomline... If an adult(18+) doesnt own a credit card,WHY would you want his traffic in the first place? You will never make money from him nor the people under 18... An AVS restriction would basically make the freeloaders with cards USE THEM... Freedom of speech has nothing to do with this... You all are saying it's a freedom of speech violation to not let somebody use MY service for free? That's complete bullshit

Yes the amount of traffic would decrease to sites but the over all quality of surfers coming to your site will be looking to buy....
:2 cents:

i've been repeating the same thing all night long ;)

oh well, really going to bed this time ;)

nocostporn 06-05-2002 01:49 AM

I summed it up for you... Now people shut the fuck up and get to work on your multi-million dollar AVS systems...

TheFLY 06-05-2002 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
I actually liked reading this thread...


Now let's get to the bottomline... If an adult(18+) doesnt own a credit card,WHY would you want his traffic in the first place?

If you don't want it -- send all that traffic to me then -- I can think of dozens of ways to make $$$ with it.

quiet 06-05-2002 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
This whole AVS deal could spawn a new wave of profitable cyber-theft --

fake "prequalified" traffic

*evil laughter*

you bastard :)

nocostporn 06-05-2002 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


If you don't want it -- send all that traffic to me then -- I can think of dozens of ways to make $$$ with it.


lol Yeah I know,money can be made NOW with it,dialers,4free programs,click programs... But you have to take in point that 75% of your traffic isn't looking to spend shit and your just sending your shit traffic to the next stiff,I would rather have a 100,000 people with a credit card than 10 million eating my bandwidth and leaching (exagerated numbers of course heh)

I can't say I WANT there to be an AVS restriction but eventually the government will intervine,it's only a matter of time. All I have to say is,whoever can change with the times will be here 15 years from now and I think we can all agree something BIG will hit internet porn in the next 5 years regulating it...BE READY


I'm tired and probably dont know what I'm saying...
I'M OUT!

Fletch XXX 06-05-2002 02:22 AM

i think AVS is better for the Industry overall.

TheFLY 06-05-2002 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine


your CC company knows if you are of legal age or not. it's VERY easy to construct a database of CC numbers of people that are 18+ and grant access to porn sites only to those CCs.z

Please explain how sharing CC numbers is legal...?

TheFLY 06-05-2002 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
I would rather have a 100,000 people with a credit card than 10 million eating my bandwidth and leaching (exagerated numbers of course heh)
I'd rather have 10million leeches -- I'm a contrarian by nature.

Cirrus 06-05-2002 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


I'd rather have 10million leeches -- I'm a contrarian by nature.

why ?

raymo 06-05-2002 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
Thank you.

yes there is a link between the rental agencies and hotels and porn, they require responsibility on both the parts of the service and the customer. a hotel or rental agency will not sell their services directly to children because children are not old enough to do so responsibly.
AH. I interpreted your argument as naming other industries as an example of how it could happen to the adult biz (meaning, government regulation).

<b>quick</b>, when you retire, will you be doing any other forms of work or do you intend to live off your ongoing site earnings?

titmowse 06-05-2002 03:05 AM

"quick, when you retire, will you be doing any other forms of work or do you intend to live off your ongoing site earnings?"

i write for a living dear. :winkwink:

quiet 06-05-2002 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raymo
AH. I interpreted your argument as naming other industries as an example of how it could happen to the adult biz (meaning, government regulation).

<b>quick</b>, when you retire, will you be doing any other forms of work or do you intend to live off your ongoing site earnings?

titmowse is retiring too?

titmowse 06-05-2002 03:18 AM

"titmowse is retiring too?"

you know something i don't? :eek7 :Hollering :arcadefre :moon

raymo 06-05-2002 03:46 AM

heoaheoa tit, you confused everyone :o)
I was addressing <b>quiet</b> ... the <i>person</i>..

Btw <b>titmowse</b>, any chance of doing some technical articles for cozy? Serverside progging is the name of the game.

[edit: name is quiet, not quick...sorry for the confusion!]

titmowse 06-05-2002 04:18 AM

"heoaheoa tit, you confused everyone :o)
I was addressing quick ... the person..

Btw titmowse, any chance of doing some technical articles for cozy? Serverside progging is the name of the game."

oops. my bad.

as for your question, we do have some good articles on programming at the Frog as well as some very nice lessons at Academy.

I don't write too much about programming myself. It's hard enough for me to write as if I know what I'm talking about :1orglaugh

Maybe you could write some programming articles for the Cozy Network mr raymo... :winkwink:

raymo 06-05-2002 05:05 AM

Hmmm I just realised I wrote quick instead of quiet... <i>my</i> bad :o)

Great, love to. This is getting a little off topic so I'll mail ya in a mo.

titmowse 06-05-2002 05:10 AM

me sleepy too. nite all

The Machine 06-05-2002 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Please explain how sharing CC numbers is legal...?

who's talking about sharing CC numbers? the CC company has a database with info about their cardholders, right? when you make a purchase online, your info goes from the browser through the pay site sign up page through the processor's gateway to the bank/CC company database for CC verification. well at that last point when they are checking your data anyway, a couple of SQL code lines can be added to the query, checking if the value in the age column is >18. if it is - great, you get the pass to the AVS/pay site. if not - you are denied access even if this is your card and you have sufficient funds on it. no sharing of CC numbers/info will occur...lol

Fletch XXX 10-09-2002 11:54 AM

<font color="yellow">
Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
how many people here think that the government will eventually produce laws that force all porn to be shielded behind AVS type systems?
</font>

It has begun.

In as little as 5 months since your inquiry.

:stoned


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