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Anthony · 07-09-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sleeves

I also did not say he didnt defend, I asked what was the difference between his deffence and Griffins. They bothed flailed their hands, so how is one different from the other.

We must have been watching 2 different UFC's. Ken did not flail, nor did he defend.

Theater · 07-09-2006, 08:24 AM

Missed the fight due to coaching wrestlers at Midwest Nationals! Which in a few matches turned into UFC fights! Unreal shit happened! So who won the rest of the fights??
Theater

Lance69 · 07-09-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sleeves

I also did not say he didnt defend, I asked what was the difference between his deffence and Griffins. They bothed flailed their hands, so how is one different from the other.

From what I saw Ken wasn't flailing very much. He was clearly stunned and wide open for more. There is no need to continue unless you are a Gladiator. And that would get the FCC and sanctioning bodies pretty riled up and then boom, no more UFC.
Not to mention these guys mostly resect each other and have no real interest in seeing one of thier own get permanantly injured. If they do they have no place in fighting.

sleeves · 07-09-2006, 01:12 PM

Just explain to me what an inteligent defense is from that postition please. Thats all I want to know, Im a boxing fan not an mma fan and when I watch these fights I dont understand what inteligent defense is. It seems to vary fight to fight. They let some guys take beatings and others are stopped very quickly.

Martin3 · 07-09-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeves

Just explain to me what an inteligent defense is from that postition please. Thats all I want to know, Im a boxing fan not an mma fan and when I watch these fights I dont understand what inteligent defense is. It seems to vary fight to fight. They let some guys take beatings and others are stopped very quickly.

You have to make an attempt to gain a better position or defend from the position you're in.
When Forrest was on the bottom he was atleast trying to scramble and block/dodge the elbow attacks.
After Tito hit Ken with the first solid elbow, Ken's hands dropped to his sides and Tito landed 4-5 more with Ken doing NOTHING to try and stop them. Had Kem simply put an arm up or did anything other then just lay there the fight would not have been stopped.

Don't let Kens action after the stoppage full you. He's a man that recovers very quickly. He did the same thing after the Sakurba fight. But there's no 10 count in MMA.

Manowar · 07-09-2006, 02:04 PM

he will win tho

Lance69 · 07-09-2006, 02:10 PM

Good points Martin3.
Whatever you may think an intelligent defense is, it certainly isn't laying there half concious, getting smashed. Ken was no longer cognizant of anything. In MMA so you have to recover through the onslaught. If you can't do that then it's over. There is no 10 count.

Anthony · 07-09-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeves

Just explain to me what an inteligent defense is from that postition please. Thats all I want to know, Im a boxing fan not an mma fan and when I watch these fights I dont understand what inteligent defense is. It seems to vary fight to fight. They let some guys take beatings and others are stopped very quickly.

Sleeves,

Big props for asking, Martin gave an accurate description to intelligent or cognizant defending.

A really good board/community to get immersed into mma is MMA.tv/tuf

You'll find alot of discussion about this fight there.

Capt. rold · 07-09-2006, 03:35 PM

that fight was fucked right up...should've kept going

lush_life · 07-09-2006, 05:59 PM

5 or 6 clean elbows that were not being blocked or answered back to.... shamrock lost the fight. Now they are both bitches who could kick all our asses

Kevsh · 07-09-2006, 06:09 PM

My .02

1) Tito's bitching about the weight is just another mind game, something I'd say he's rather good at. There's no doubt he got into Ken's head long, long ago and he's still there.

2) The fight should have been stopped, no doubt. Perhaps if it wasn't at that moment, Ken would've lasted another 10, 15 seconds ... but it was over, one way or another.

Unfortunately, a bit of a let-down as it was over so quickly, but nothing compared to Arlovski-Sylvia fight which was horrid. Absolutely, The Maniac deserved to hold onto the title - Andre did nothing in that fight to prove he should get it.

SomeCreep · 07-09-2006, 06:11 PM

Anyone have a clip of the tito/shamrock fight? I heard it was like 1 1/2 minutes long. Someone post a link.

reynold · 07-09-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Anyone have a clip of the tito/shamrock fight? I heard it was like 1 1/2 minutes long. Someone post a link.

I saw that fight. Shamrock took 5 succesive elbows to the face with practically no attempt at defending himself..

Sorry, I got no clip of that here though.

dig420 · 07-09-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeves

I dont understand the stopage, please explain the difference between the 10 secs Shamrock was on his back and the entire first round of the Griffen vs Ortiz fight. That fight was a work, very obvious imo. The entire event was terible, not a single decent fight.

good lord, you're clueless about NHB too?

if someone's smashing elbows in your face and you're not at least putting a hand up to block them you're obviously incapacitated and about to get seriously fucked up. That ref was Shamrock's best friend.

MaddCaz · 07-09-2006, 06:49 PM

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07-09-2006, 06:09 PM	#61
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	My .02 1) Tito's bitching about the weight is just another mind game, something I'd say he's rather good at. There's no doubt he got into Ken's head long, long ago and he's still there. 2) The fight should have been stopped, no doubt. Perhaps if it wasn't at that moment, Ken would've lasted another 10, 15 seconds ... but it was over, one way or another. Unfortunately, a bit of a let-down as it was over so quickly, but nothing compared to Arlovski-Sylvia fight which was horrid. Absolutely, The Maniac deserved to hold onto the title - Andre did nothing in that fight to prove he should get it.