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Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 04:48 AM

Can it please be noted for those who only watch films that Vietnam kicked the shit out of the USA.
I will be posting pictures of dead USA troops from the Vietnam V USA war later.

The USA thinks it has won against Iraq. Check www.ogrish.com

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Can it please be noted for those who only watch films that Vietnam kicked the shit out of the USA.
I will be posting pictures of dead USA troops from the Vietnam V USA war later.

The USA thinks it has won against Iraq. Check www.ogrish.com

The US military never lost a single battle in Vietnam and the kill ratio was several million dead Vietnamese and close to sixty thousand dead Americans. If you call that kicking the "shit" out of the USA so be it.

Dirty Dane · 07-12-2006, 04:53 AM

Its called

USA vs North Vietnam
USA vs Saddam regime

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 04:56 AM

Yeah right, and u do believe that the stats US give to u r correct, hahahaha u make me laugh. USA was totally OWNED.

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Can it please be noted for those who only watch films that Vietnam kicked the shit out of the USA.
I will be posting pictures of dead USA troops from the Vietnam V USA war later.

The USA thinks it has won against Iraq. Check www.ogrish.com

US and coalition forces defeated the Iraq military and took down the government in three weeks, I would call that a win. Of course the mission in Iraq has not yet been completed in totality.

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MFXumeroth

Yeah right, and u do believe that the stats US give to u r correct, hahahaha u make me laugh. USA was totally OWNED.

Please educate me and provide me with the "true" stats.

dunefield · 07-12-2006, 04:59 AM

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The US military never lost a single battle in Vietnam and the kill ratio was several million dead Vietnamese and close to sixty thousand dead Americans. If you call that kicking the "shit" out of the USA so be it.

Yet they never occupied or liberated Vietnam... Mission wasn't completed... So they didn't win the war...

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:06 AM

Iraq is another Vietnam. They have not stopped. All that will happen is US troops will keep coming home in body bags.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 05:06 AM

Dude, really.

It's easy to assume that ANY government lies, there r too many things questionable about them, and the US Gov is the worst of all. Can u REALLY explain to me how come BUsh is president, it looked like a pretty good scam to me... well, if u DO believe everything your government says to you I fell sorry for u, really.
I do envy your patriotism at some points, but now americans patriotism only borders stupidity for all that I know.

FunForOne · 07-12-2006, 05:08 AM

FACT: There is a 25-year-old kid in an American Military uniform as we speak. This kid is sitting in front of a button with launch codes to something powerful enough to erase the existence of the city that RelishX is posting from. The city can be erased without anyone even seeing a piece of US military equipment. There is a US submarine right now carrying more payload than the total of all bombs exploded in the history of the world.

But, this guy needs to post pictures of dead US soldiers in an effort to make himself think the US military is weak. It helps him sleep at night, because it would hurt moral if his country was actually told how superior the US military is to anyone that is an extreme far 2nd place.

Maybe you should make post about the detriment of political correctness during war time.

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:08 AM

Ladies like this destroyed the US.

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dunefield

Yet they never occupied or liberated Vietnam... Mission wasn't completed... So they didn't win the war...

The US never had any intention of occupying North Vietnam, nor did they ever attemp to do so. The US did not accomplish what they desired to accomplish which was the stablization of an independant South Vietnam, so no they did not win. They also did not lose the war as they withdrew from the war in 1973 and turned the war over to the South Vietnamese military and the South Vietnamese military was defeated two years later in 1975.

dunefield · 07-12-2006, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

FACT: There is a 25-year-old kid in an American Military uniform as we speak. This kid is sitting in front of a button with launch codes to something powerful enough to erase the existence of the city that RelishX is posting from. The city can be erased without anyone even seeing a piece of US military equipment. There is a US submarine right now carrying more payload than the total of all bombs exploded in the history of the world.

But, this guy needs to post pictures of dead US soldiers in an effort to make himself think the US military is weak. It helps him sleep at night, because it would hurt moral if his country was actually told how superior the US military is to anyone that is an extreme far 2nd place.

Maybe you should make post about the detriment of political correctness during war time.

I don't think any of those examples would go well with the UN...

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MFXumeroth

Dude, really.

It's easy to assume that ANY government lies, there r too many things questionable about them, and the US Gov is the worst of all. Can u REALLY explain to me how come BUsh is president, it looked like a pretty good scam to me... well, if u DO believe everything your government says to you I fell sorry for u, really.
I do envy your patriotism at some points, but now americans patriotism only borders stupidity for all that I know.

Just as I suspected, you are unable to provide the "true" stats, so I will just have to have confidence in the available stats. OK?

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:14 AM

Want to see some pictures of US soldiers begging for their lives before being executed?

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:18 AM

Americans seem to come home in coffins quite alot.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 05:20 AM

Ok, u can be a gullible voter for all I care, and live happily ever after in your hypocrite country. I don't mind, as long as u r happy being lied too.

gooboy · 07-12-2006, 05:35 AM

errr?
s'cuse me: adult webmaster board here?
if i am wrong, i have a couple of other nice topics for absolutely useless, time & energy wasting discussions. how about: windows vs. apple, slow vs. fast, watermelon flavoured chewing gum vs. marshmellows (the white ones). need more, just ask me.

sorry for this being my first message on this otherwise really good board.

gb

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MFXumeroth

Ok, u can be a gullible voter for all I care, and live happily ever after in your hypocrite country. I don't mind, as long as u r happy being lied too.

Present some evidence that I have been lied to and maybe I won't be so happy.

Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gooboy

errr?
s'cuse me: adult webmaster board here?
if i am wrong, i have a couple of other nice topics for absolutely useless, time & energy wasting discussions. how about: windows vs. apple, slow vs. fast, watermelon flavoured chewing gum vs. marshmellows (the white ones). need more, just ask me.

sorry for this being my first message on this otherwise really good board.

gb

In answer to your question, I think not.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 05:38 AM

2 words: Michael Moore.

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:38 AM

I love Brasil. Brasil is a country that is not lied to.

notabook · 07-12-2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Americans seem to come home in coffins quite alot.

Thanks for dying for Iraq and spilling your blood amerikans

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Sexxxy Sites · 07-12-2006, 05:43 AM

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2 words: Michael Moore.

Of course you are joking. I like Michael Moore. I have seen all of his mockumentries and enjoyed his TV program. He is a very good satirist.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 05:46 AM

To tell u the truth, we r lied to, A LOT actually...we just ain't stupid enough to believe it...well some of us at least, hehe.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 05:47 AM

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Of course you are joking. I like Michael Moore. I have seen all of his mockumentries and enjoyed his TV program. He is a very good satirist.

Satirist?
I guess the funny ones r the government, and no I am not Joking...I guess Stupid White Men is a good start or u....books r always better than movies.

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 05:58 AM

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notabook · 07-12-2006, 06:03 AM

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books r always better than movies.

Go fuck yourself faggot

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 06:05 AM

Okay not ALWAYS, sometimes, u bitch.

ezrydn · 07-12-2006, 06:10 AM

Relish,

I was in Nam in 65. I was with the 7th Cav, Custer's old outfit. Too bad you can't sit across the table from me and repeat your original statement. Please, before showing your stupidity, study up a bit. Vietnam wasn't a war as much as it was a cluster of battles. You, however, wouldn't know that, being as green as you are. You bitch and moan about casualities but have you ever gutted someone with a bayonet? Or pulled their eyes out so they couldn't shoot you? Plus, you can't stay on track. First, the subject was Nam, then Iraq and then the government. Please get your contexts in order. That's some of the stuff you missed when you didn't go to school.

Relish XXX · 07-12-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrydn

Relish,

I was in Nam in 65. I was with the 7th Cav, Custer's old outfit. Too bad you can't sit across the table from me and repeat your original statement. Please, before showing your stupidity, study up a bit. Vietnam wasn't a war as much as it was a cluster of battles. You, however, wouldn't know that, being as green as you are. You bitch and moan about casualities but have you ever gutted someone with a bayonet? Or pulled their eyes out so they couldn't shoot you? Plus, you can't stay on track. First, the subject was Nam, then Iraq and then the government. Please get your contexts in order. That's some of the stuff you missed when you didn't go to school.

No I havent ever gutted anyone and I thank god I am part of a country that isnt stupid enough to get me into that situatiom.

Now just remember the USA lost in Vietnam.

ezrydn · 07-12-2006, 07:07 AM

You haven't got the international balls to sit at a table of VN vets and make that last statement.

When the "gutting" took place, there wasn't one thought of democracy, politics, nothing, except, survival. You've evidently never faced that facet of life. Lucky fucking cotton-protected, silver-spoon sucking you.

I don't hide behind the generic term "war." I've been in more than my share of "battles." Ever see "We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson? It's the most accurate, most correct movie ever to exit Hollywierd. How would I know that fact? Yeah, how would I? How COULD I?

On that November day, we put 160 men on the ground and faced over 2000+ fresh NVA troops. Guess who won? This happened over and over, through out the conflict, yet pee-greens like you can only settle on the final outcome. You have absolutely NO concept! Lost the war? Yes, the politicians sure did. Lose the battles? Extremely rarely.

And your claim to fame? Besides, talking, that is?

notabook · 07-12-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrydn

Relish,

I was in Nam in 65. I was with the 7th Cav, Custer's old outfit. Too bad you can't sit across the table from me and repeat your original statement. Please, before showing your stupidity, study up a bit. Vietnam wasn't a war as much as it was a cluster of battles. You, however, wouldn't know that, being as green as you are. You bitch and moan about casualities but have you ever gutted someone with a bayonet? Or pulled their eyes out so they couldn't shoot you? Plus, you can't stay on track. First, the subject was Nam, then Iraq and then the government. Please get your contexts in order. That's some of the stuff you missed when you didn't go to school.

All I saw when reading this post was: ?I am a heartless war-mongering baby killer?. Hope you enjoyed killing all those kids. You will have to pay for your sins to your respective god one day friend. Don't you and your republican war buddies have a few more pointless wars to start for "democracy" and "freedom"?

DWB · 07-12-2006, 07:24 AM

I have spent some time in Vietnam and it is called the American War to them. They kicked our asses, one booby trap at a time. They won because they were fighting for something they believed in. We lost because we were just fighting.

The United States will eventually lose in Iraq. We are losing now I believe based on information I get from guys I know who have been there. We may lose some battles, but will lose the war.

You can not win a war against people who have a cause or have nothing to lose. You can also not win a war against an IDEA such as "terrorism" because that idea changes, evolves and can not be painted into a corner. Every attack against Muslim extremist will breed more Muslim extremists. Again... we will lose this war, even if we win some battles.

Anphibius · 07-12-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrydn

I don't hide behind the generic term "war." I've been in more than my share of "battles." Ever see "We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson? It's the most accurate, most correct movie ever to exit Hollywierd. How would I know that fact? Yeah, how would I? How COULD I?

We Were Soldiers is complete fucking joke, probably made by the Bush administration to boost morale. This absurdly patriotic film is sickening. Obviously the creators of this film haven't read much of the bible (the whole part where you are to forgive your enemies and so forth). Mel Gibson's character is constantly talking about God, however he doesn't seem to realise that if you kill people for a living you aren't a good Christian!

Lt. Col. Hal Moore's (Mel Gibson) speaches were syrupy sweet melodramatic drivel. In fact, much of the dialogue is the same way. This film had none of the reality Platoon had, which is the most comprehensive Vietnam War movie. I've heard many Nam Vets say this.

Regardless of its inherent historical authenticity, this is bar-none one of the WORST war films I've ever seen. Sure, Ia Drang happened. Yep, it happened like this, and ya, the guys all wore these uniforms. And that's where it ends.
Everything else about this movie is hokey, flag-waving, crass Americanism at it's burger-munching worst! Mel Gibson, strutting about John Wayne style through artillery barrages - puhlease! And let's not forget neophyte "lifer" sidekick wannabee officer who eats it heroically - barfbag please... And finally, how about those syrupy-sweet, and likewise sickly simpering war-wives left back home. Never have I been subjected to such a barrage of base emotional manipulation. Indeed, I found myself wishing all these Yanks would die! What a putrid piece of garbage filled from top to bottom with every dead war movie cliche in the hollywood dust bin. Don't waste a nickel on this pure, unadulterated tripe. Of course, if you buy into the lies of American war "heroism" you'll love this. Die for oil, sucker!

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 07:26 AM

War sucks.
And what Notabook (as much as I hate to admity it) said, is kinda right.
I understand that Survival is key at war, and that you HAVE to kill people or you will die, and no one wants to die. But I do believe it was a pointless war, and the government kept sending people there to die.
And yes I believe USA lost, at the end. or they would still be there.

Kimo · 07-12-2006, 07:29 AM

look, i currently hate the us government administration, and im against the war in iraq, but fuck YOU. if you think any country can kick our ass i DARE them to bring it on US soil. we are a country with enough privately owned firearms for every living person in our country to have two! keep in mind those are legal firearms, i personally know a ton of people with illegal firearms so when you add those to the mix unless you nuke us you cant fucking touch us

in the words of rick james "fuck yo couch!"

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 07:32 AM

HAhahahaha, it's funny how some of you are PROUD about the number of firearms you have, really. Hahahaha.

directfiesta · 07-12-2006, 07:38 AM

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HAhahahaha, it's funny how some of you are PROUD about the number of firearms you have, really. Hahahaha.

Well, after all, they are a peacefull loving nation , with a mission to spread the democracy around the world ( read: oil world ) ....

curvestar · 07-12-2006, 07:39 AM

USA RULES....hahahaha...well we would if we got rid of Bush

DWB · 07-12-2006, 07:43 AM

But in the end, nobody wins...

DWB · 07-12-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrydn

Lost the war? Yes, the politicians sure did. Lose the battles? Extremely rarely.

For sure we lost the war, but that is not to say that it was the soldiers fault. As a military we are supreme as far as tactics, skill and weaponry. There is no argument there. Unfortunately it is men who have never seen a battle who make many of the decisions that dictate the military's actions. We should have never stepped foot into Vietnam, as we should not be in Iraq.

I gotta tell you though, when I went to the war museum in Ho Chi Min City I was completely blown away at the atrocities that I saw in the photographs. I was disgusted as a human and most of all as a citizen if the United States. I have never seen so much carnage and wrong doings by US soldiers in my life. I shit you not when I tell you that I cried, and I was not alone.

dynastoned · 07-12-2006, 08:12 AM

lol... and the never ending argument continues.

when will you people understand? there will never be peace. just remember kiddies without the USA you all might be speaking GERMAN right now.

notabook · 07-12-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

lol... and the never ending argument continues.

when will you people understand? there will never be peace. just remember kiddies without the USA you all might be speaking GERMAN right now.

At least the German language makes sense

stickyfingerz · 07-12-2006, 08:15 AM

Dumbest thread eva!!!!

scottybuzz · 07-12-2006, 08:20 AM

wow fucking hell anti american shit coming out here. i think the only people who can successfully disribe and retell the stories are the soldiers and army. the rest is bullshit fabricated, but the amry can be to, noone else deserves a say.

directfiesta · 07-12-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

wow fucking hell anti american shit coming out here. i think the only people who can successfully disribe and retell the stories are the soldiers and army. the rest is bullshit fabricated, but the amry can be to, noone else deserves a say.

you should stick to your usual posts, such as :

" see sig "

My translator is working on this to get it into English ...

G-Rotica · 07-12-2006, 08:57 AM

Yes because killing another human being is soooo winning!

Sarah_Jayne · 07-12-2006, 09:17 AM

I don't get the joy of posting pictures of anyone's soldiers dead.

MFXumeroth · 07-12-2006, 09:20 AM

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As a military we are supreme as far as tactics, skill and weaponry. There is no argument there.

Tactics? - Probably
Weaponry? - Certainly
Skill? - Not in a million years.

07-12-2006, 04:48 AM	#1
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	Vietnam V USA Can it please be noted for those who only watch films that Vietnam kicked the shit out of the USA. I will be posting pictures of dead USA troops from the Vietnam V USA war later. The USA thinks it has won against Iraq. Check www.ogrish.com __________________

07-12-2006, 04:56 AM	#4
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	Yeah right, and u do believe that the stats US give to u r correct, hahahaha u make me laugh. USA was totally OWNED. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

07-12-2006, 05:06 AM	#8
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	Iraq is another Vietnam. They have not stopped. All that will happen is US troops will keep coming home in body bags. __________________

07-12-2006, 05:06 AM	#9
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	Dude, really. It's easy to assume that ANY government lies, there r too many things questionable about them, and the US Gov is the worst of all. Can u REALLY explain to me how come BUsh is president, it looked like a pretty good scam to me... well, if u DO believe everything your government says to you I fell sorry for u, really. I do envy your patriotism at some points, but now americans patriotism only borders stupidity for all that I know. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

07-12-2006, 05:08 AM	#11
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	Ladies like this destroyed the US. __________________

07-12-2006, 04:53 AM	#3
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FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	FACT: There is a 25-year-old kid in an American Military uniform as we speak. This kid is sitting in front of a button with launch codes to something powerful enough to erase the existence of the city that RelishX is posting from. The city can be erased without anyone even seeing a piece of US military equipment. There is a US submarine right now carrying more payload than the total of all bombs exploded in the history of the world. But, this guy needs to post pictures of dead US soldiers in an effort to make himself think the US military is weak. It helps him sleep at night, because it would hurt moral if his country was actually told how superior the US military is to anyone that is an extreme far 2nd place. Maybe you should make post about the detriment of political correctness during war time.

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07-12-2006, 05:20 AM	#17
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	Ok, u can be a gullible voter for all I care, and live happily ever after in your hypocrite country. I don't mind, as long as u r happy being lied too. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

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gooboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: right there, you see? Little to the left. Posts: 52	errr? s'cuse me: adult webmaster board here? if i am wrong, i have a couple of other nice topics for absolutely useless, time & energy wasting discussions. how about: windows vs. apple, slow vs. fast, watermelon flavoured chewing gum vs. marshmellows (the white ones). need more, just ask me. sorry for this being my first message on this otherwise really good board. gb

07-12-2006, 05:38 AM	#21
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	2 words: Michael Moore. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

07-12-2006, 05:46 AM	#25
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	To tell u the truth, we r lied to, A LOT actually...we just ain't stupid enough to believe it...well some of us at least, hehe. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

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07-12-2006, 06:05 AM	#29
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07-12-2006, 06:10 AM	#30
ezrydn Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Guadalajara, MX Posts: 695	Relish, I was in Nam in 65. I was with the 7th Cav, Custer's old outfit. Too bad you can't sit across the table from me and repeat your original statement. Please, before showing your stupidity, study up a bit. Vietnam wasn't a war as much as it was a cluster of battles. You, however, wouldn't know that, being as green as you are. You bitch and moan about casualities but have you ever gutted someone with a bayonet? Or pulled their eyes out so they couldn't shoot you? Plus, you can't stay on track. First, the subject was Nam, then Iraq and then the government. Please get your contexts in order. That's some of the stuff you missed when you didn't go to school.

07-12-2006, 07:07 AM	#32
ezrydn Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Guadalajara, MX Posts: 695	You haven't got the international balls to sit at a table of VN vets and make that last statement. When the "gutting" took place, there wasn't one thought of democracy, politics, nothing, except, survival. You've evidently never faced that facet of life. Lucky fucking cotton-protected, silver-spoon sucking you. I don't hide behind the generic term "war." I've been in more than my share of "battles." Ever see "We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson? It's the most accurate, most correct movie ever to exit Hollywierd. How would I know that fact? Yeah, how would I? How COULD I? On that November day, we put 160 men on the ground and faced over 2000+ fresh NVA troops. Guess who won? This happened over and over, through out the conflict, yet pee-greens like you can only settle on the final outcome. You have absolutely NO concept! Lost the war? Yes, the politicians sure did. Lose the battles? Extremely rarely. And your claim to fame? Besides, talking, that is?

07-12-2006, 07:24 AM	#34
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I have spent some time in Vietnam and it is called the American War to them. They kicked our asses, one booby trap at a time. They won because they were fighting for something they believed in. We lost because we were just fighting. The United States will eventually lose in Iraq. We are losing now I believe based on information I get from guys I know who have been there. We may lose some battles, but will lose the war. You can not win a war against people who have a cause or have nothing to lose. You can also not win a war against an IDEA such as "terrorism" because that idea changes, evolves and can not be painted into a corner. Every attack against Muslim extremist will breed more Muslim extremists. Again... we will lose this war, even if we win some battles.

07-12-2006, 07:26 AM	#36
MFXumeroth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santos, Brasil Posts: 160	War sucks. And what Notabook (as much as I hate to admity it) said, is kinda right. I understand that Survival is key at war, and that you HAVE to kill people or you will die, and no one wants to die. But I do believe it was a pointless war, and the government kept sending people there to die. And yes I believe USA lost, at the end. or they would still be there. __________________ Embraces, Xumeroth

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Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	look, i currently hate the us government administration, and im against the war in iraq, but fuck YOU. if you think any country can kick our ass i DARE them to bring it on US soil. we are a country with enough privately owned firearms for every living person in our country to have two! keep in mind those are legal firearms, i personally know a ton of people with illegal firearms so when you add those to the mix unless you nuke us you cant fucking touch us in the words of rick james "fuck yo couch!" __________________ ...

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curvestar So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 100	USA RULES....hahahaha...well we would if we got rid of Bush

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dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	lol... and the never ending argument continues. when will you people understand? there will never be peace. just remember kiddies without the USA you all might be speaking GERMAN right now.

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scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	wow fucking hell anti american shit coming out here. i think the only people who can successfully disribe and retell the stories are the soldiers and army. the rest is bullshit fabricated, but the amry can be to, noone else deserves a say. __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

07-12-2006, 08:57 AM	#48
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Yes because killing another human being is soooo winning! __________________

07-12-2006, 09:17 AM	#49
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I don't get the joy of posting pictures of anyone's soldiers dead.