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Old 07-04-2006, 09:36 AM   #1
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Regarding Affiliate Accounts

Since I joined Adult.com in 2004, I kept myself an excel spreadsheet of all Affiliates that I worked with.

RealityCash/Playboycash did not have an accurate tracking system for sales reps and their affiliates.

Every 2 weeks, I would gather my list of affiliates and sales and pass that to Lensman, he would review it.

I would then get paid, after his approval and sign off.

I was given plenty of affiliate emails each week from my superiors.

These are emails from webmasters (current and new) asking for support from the RealityCash support page, which at that time did not have sales reps contact information. It was just an email [email protected] and an ICQ#, which I believe was Lensmans ICQ.

Many emails included webmasters that have all ready signed up and not been spoken with by anyone at Adult.com.

At this time, they did not receive a generated email from RealityCash/Playboycash, so we had to be proactive

and help these webmasters with everything they needed, which I did: set up hosting, members area access,

increasing conversions, everything and anything I tried my best to handle for Adult.com's affiliates.

From the time I received an affiliate email or helped an affiliate, I would put them on my affiliate list.

I did not have access to everyone's accounts that they claimed, we all had our own excel spreadsheets that we kept all our info, work on.

If I did anything to get that webmaster sending, converting at a higher %, anything to do with sales, etc, I kept and documented it.

Now in some cases, there were duplicate accounts.

Many times, I sat down with reps and we would go thru our lists and come to some type of an agreement.

If there were conflicting affiliates (which at times there were), we made it work.

I kept accurate records, emails, icq's of all the people I dealt with, and many times I was asked to show the proof that I had that I worked with the affiliates I claimed. I had no problem doing this and each time we never had any problems.

I would also like to note that there were many webmasters who I helped anyway, whether they were my account or not.

If someone needed some help, I would do the best I could.

I have plenty of ICQ logs with webmasters asking me to have them switched, so I can handle their account and be the support contact.

I told them to hit up Lens, I could not make that change, but I would still help them.

As far as Fleshlight Affiliates, there was no system to track affiliates. Juicy and I could not look into our Affiliates accounts, contact info, etc. We simply gave them a link and had them sign up. If someone wanted me to work with them, I had them sign up under my link. So, if I am going to do anything to help this affiliate, I want it to be tracked under me.

I thought that made sense, if someone is hitting me up, then most likely they are not getting the support and attention they deserve.

If I am consistantly working with an affiliate, it only makes sense that I am compensated and credit for that.

If there are individual issues that need to be addressed, please let me know. Email .

I was not aware of pending affiliates situations that were not cleared up before I departed either company.

With Fleshlight, if I helped a webmaster send sales, I would send Fleshlight an email with documented proof of what I did to help and then Fleshlight decided to add the account or not under me.

If they signed up they signed up thru fleshlight, Juicy or myself. If they wanted to work with someone else after they had all ready sign up, they signed up again and I helped them.

With that said, there were many accounts that signed up directly under fleshlight without my code and I helped them anyway.

Those accounts never showed up under my account I got credit for, but i never made that an issue or had that changed.

I've always done my best to help everyone, regardless of who's account it was or wasn't.

I've never had a problem helping anyone big or small, no matter how long it took or how many hours of ICQ conversations it took.

I made a statement about the webmasters who sends 1 join each year, yet hit the boards to complain about problems. That was inappropriate and wrong, I learned alot from that statement and I want everyone to know that I will never make that mistake again and I apologize.

The bottom line is the majority of my affiliates database sends 5-10 joins a months and thanks to hundreds of those affiliates, I have been able to have a strong database of webmasters.

I have always gone above and beyond to get webmasters everything they need. I will continue to do so, if anyone has issues to discuss, please let me know thru email, ICQ or phone call.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:44 AM   #2
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:46 AM   #3
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:47 AM   #4
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:47 AM   #5
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:47 AM   #6
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Ramos helped me out with everything i needed to promote realitycash and i was not signed under him. He did not even ask me to do so...
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:49 AM   #7
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Interesting read man..hope all this gets worked out and people move on
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:49 AM   #8
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Interesting read man..hope all this gets worked out and people move on
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:50 AM   #9
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I'll vouch for the adult.com part of it.

I was an affiliate but never talked with anyone before. I then started getting ramos to help me with hosting etc...

I have no idea about all the stuff going on, but I did consider Ramos my rep even though I was promoting playboycash and adult.com before he came aboard. I hadn't talked with anyone else.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:54 AM   #10
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i still think it's all bs and for once, agree with jimthefiend.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:57 AM   #11
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:07 AM   #12
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Sounds good. Except in my personal experience something must have fallen through the cracks at RealityCash.
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:08 AM   #13
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:12 AM   #14
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Hmm, if im correct Adult.com and playboycash both use nats, and Nats has rep tracking in there because when i worked for NichePay I Used to get people to signup under me and it was all fully tracked
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:15 AM   #15
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Hmm, if im correct Adult.com and playboycash both use nats, and Nats has rep tracking in there because when i worked for NichePay I Used to get people to signup under me and it was all fully tracked
They weren't always on NATS.
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:15 AM   #16
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many times I was asked to show the proof that I had that I worked with the affiliates I claimed.


Gee, I wonder why?
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:21 AM   #17
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:42 AM   #20
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looks like you got some serious haters man...keep up the good fight
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:43 AM   #21
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looks like you got some serious haters man...keep up the good fight
I think some people are being led around by their dicks!!!

You fucking dipshit.

Bumping every thread related to this issue with your little ass kissing isn't going to change the simple fact that your little twink buddy Ramos is a fucking gnob.


But carry on.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:47 AM   #22
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You fucking dipshit.
I have serious mental issues...and have a hard time separating reality from fantasy

we know that dude....go get help.

you are a piece of shit
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:55 AM   #23
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looks like you got some serious haters man...keep up the good fight
I think some people are being led around by their dicks!!!
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:10 PM   #25
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Isn't it time to get this drama of-board? Chat it up on ICQ or whatever.. the next thred to see I hope will be either; "Ok, we're cool now" OR "Ok, We've talked now, and never talking again"

just sort the shit out..

That's my opinion.. someone elses opinion might be that there is nothing so sort out.. I dunno.. Just speaking my mind..
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:12 PM   #26
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If they signed up they signed up thru fleshlight, Juicy or myself. If they wanted to work with someone else after they had all ready sign up, they signed up again and I helped them.
Sounds like stealing affiliates to me.
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:14 PM   #27
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:17 PM   #28
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sounds like you did all you could to assist.
hope this all gets worked out.
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:23 PM   #29
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:27 PM   #30
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When will all this drama end?

Thanks for your side of the story Ramos. Glad to hear it from all ends.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:07 PM   #31
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you should try to write some novels
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hey man..i stick by my friends.

im not a fairweather type person who will turn on you when the chips are down

Yea but perhaps you should talk to the right people to find out the truth before you stick up for someone.
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im not a fairweather type person who will turn on you when the chips are down
ok, so you admit that you're saying this stuff for ramos not because hes right.... but because hes your friend.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:51 PM   #34
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Ever since December 2004 or whenever Ramos joined them they have.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:57 PM   #36
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All these threads are too long to read, Ramos is a good guy and a great addition to MM! I just wish you sent me that fleshlight before you left!
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Since I joined Adult.com in 2004, I kept myself an excel spreadsheet of all Affiliates that I worked with.
So did I... let's compare
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:14 PM   #39
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Ever since December 2004 or whenever Ramos joined them they have.
Now that could be.

Hey, since you're around today, I'm going to hit you up on ICQ about my NATS question from yesterday.
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This is the best piece of PURE BULLSHIT I have read in awhile....


Karma is a bitch my friend...........I aint done with you yet.....
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All these threads are too long to read, Ramos is a good guy and a great addition to MM! I just wish you sent me that fleshlight before you left!
Dont worry bro , we are sending out FL's left n right to people he promised them to but never sent em....
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hey man..i stick by my friends.

im not a fairweather type person who will turn on you when the chips are down
Brad you are far smarter than this......

If you consider this piece of Scum your friend then thats your choice...

When he turns on you and fucks you over..... then you will see what all this is about...
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BTW ASSWIPE I know everything you fucking said about me and others behind out backs...... Yes it did get back to us.... Next time you should keep the mouth shut........
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Bullshit (often abbreviated bull or BS) is a common expletive. Its meanings include unacceptable behavior or ludicrously false representations. As with many expletives, it can be used as an interjection (or in many other parts of speech) and can carry a wide variety of meanings.

As it contains the word "shit", the term is sometimes considered foul language, hence the use of the euphemistic abbreviations "bull" and "BS". However the term is prevalent in American English and, as with many words, the term is used in a variety countries some dating back to approximately the same era WWI. In British English, bollocks is the equivalent expletive. In Australian English, Bulldust is another equivalent but less popular expletive, In Australia the phenomenon Bulldusting does not exist whereas Bullshitting, Bullshit filters and a number of other Bullshit based derivatives do.

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You lowlife piece of scum , I hope you fucking rot in hell.....

Question: Was it worth it????????
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You didnt get FIRED from Adult.com?????????????

Care to reanswer that with the TRUTH???????????????????????/
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:23 PM   #48
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Well, it seems that nobody that works on Adult.com/Playboy complianed about you (at least I didn't see it). Maybe it was all just fake drama from Jimthefiend?
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:25 PM   #49
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Well, it seems that nobody that works on Adult.com/Playboy complianed about you (at least I didn't see it). Maybe it was all just fake drama from Jimthefiend?

if they did..those be lawsuitin words
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You didnt get FIRED from Adult.com?????????????

Care to reanswer that with the TRUTH???????????????????????/
Juicy, why don't you tell us what you witnessed?
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