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Old 06-03-2002, 06:10 AM   #51
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charly charly, being an "older member" as you put it maybe u should learn to read, this matter as already been covered above.

So now u are saying its not financial? and not fixed? only some bits are now according to u?

care to change ur mind again?

THE WORLD CUP, should include teams from all over the world, thats why every team as to qualify from THEIR continent. Fifa as NO control over were countries are located I am afraid so how can they FIX IT so certain teams get through, they cant.

The qualifying groups are then picked live on tv from a bag. Then all teams play each other.

Obviously some groups are easier but that DOESNT mean its fixed u also have to remember for example all the teams in ASIA for example are of similiar ability therefore there games will be just as hard for them as it would be say for SPAIN in a group consisiting of teams of similiar ability.

oh and the worldcup is in Japan/Korea to help improve that nations football culture, same as it was when it went to USA.

First u say its all "FIXED for financial reasons" , "now only some of its fixed, its not purely financial", whats next u agree with me?
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:13 AM   #52
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I don't know if it's rigged or not.. but it's no secret that the host country is ALWAYS placed in one of the weakest groups. No surprise the host does well in the tournament most of the time
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:14 AM   #53
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lets see if japan win it then
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:17 AM   #54
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hehe.. they won't.. no matter how much they pray to Budah.
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:21 AM   #55
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Charly your a little pissed off your Czech team didn't qualify?
Have you ever heard the expression:
"Sour Grapes" ?
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:22 AM   #56
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FOR ALL THE DUMBFUCKS WHO SAY THAT IS ALL FINANCIAL.

If it was all about money... guess where they would host it every year and guess who would win every year....


Who is the biggest financial power in the world? Who controls most of the world's economy??

USA right?

When was the last time they won? How many times have they hosted it?


ALL YOU ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS AND HAVE NOT ONE FUCKING CLUE ABOUT FUTBOL. STARTING WITH THAT IDIOT SAYING THAT DENMARK IS GONNA WIN IT ALL. Argentina would eat denmark with their bench players.

I got my money on Saudi Arabia!....
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:24 AM   #57
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Group D
Korea
Poland
USA
Portugal

Group H
Japan
Belgium
Russia
Tunisia



See what I mean? none of the host countries will have to play one of the favourites in the first round..

If they don't qualify to the second round is because they don't deserve it.
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:29 AM   #58
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Charly your a little pissed off your Czech team didn't qualify?
Have you ever heard the expression:
"Sour Grapes" ?
Try reading my profile, I'm English.
Have you ever heard the expression: "Think before you talk"

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The USA are doing very well at soccer but they are a very long way from winning it and where as the US loves a winner. The idea of them getting their arses whooped on home soil every four years would be too much for Americans to take. Hell it would be too much for us English to take and we are used to it.

You did know it was every four years and not every year as in your post?
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:31 AM   #59
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Try reading my profile, I'm English.
Have you ever heard the expression: "Think before you talk"

Dax
The USA are doing very well at soccer but they are a very long way from winning it and where as the US loves a winner. The idea of them getting their arses whooped on home soil every four years would be too much for Americans to take. Hell it would be too much for us English to take and we are used to it.

You did know it was every four years and not every year as in your post?
Charly, UR wrong admit it, the world cup is NOT FIXED and couldnt be. now whos the retard?
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:32 AM   #60
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Charly come on change ur mind again
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:34 AM   #61
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I predict many fights and heated arguments in GFY now that the World Cup started..
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:37 AM   #62
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I predict many fights and heated arguments in GFY now that the World Cup started..
Im only arguing because "charly the old timer" as made such a stupid point it is unbelievable.

If he backs is point up with evidence that the world cup is rigged to include certain countries then fine, but he cant.
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:37 AM   #63
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Thanks for letting me know that it was every four years...

Im sorry for forgetting:
France 98
USA 94
Italia 90
Mexico 86
Spain 82
Argentina 78
Germany 74
Mexico 70

When was the last time it was hosted or won by Englan????
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:39 AM   #64
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The worldcup pissing matches aren't gonna be 'huge', as I think the US webmasters have no intrest in soccer, besides bash it because they don't understand it.
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:40 AM   #65
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I should not even start with my Futbol knowledge... 'cuz honestly I do not know shit.... I thought it was held every year...
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:41 AM   #66
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ahhahah

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We love u england we do
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:41 AM   #67
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I should not even start with my Futbol knowledge... 'cuz honestly I do not know shit.... I thought it was held every year...
is this charly under another alias

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Old 06-03-2002, 06:45 AM   #68
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Hellz no it is not him...

I know my Futbol... I know that teams gotta play to qualify.. I follow Futbol... more than 95% of the ppl here if not more..

FYI - I was born in Central America - My grandparents are French - I went to a German school - Live in the USA.

TRUST me... I know more about Futbol than most here.. =) It is in the blood! ;)
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:47 AM   #69
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Dax just kidding with u bro, u said u knew nuthing which is precisely what charly knows.
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:50 AM   #70
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You almost gave me a heart attack...
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Old 06-03-2002, 06:57 AM   #71
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TeenGodFather, I'm not sure about that.. there are many europeans and South Americans (Brazil and Argentina) webmasters in GFY...
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Old 06-03-2002, 07:38 AM   #72
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Charly your the only person who thinks the world cup is fixed. Just enjoy the games or don't watch them.
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Old 06-03-2002, 07:44 AM   #73
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LoveAsianChicks - nearly at that 1k mark, will u donate the jacket to me?
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Old 06-03-2002, 07:59 AM   #74
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LOL I'm lacking the adult.com signups, but hey your only 100 posts behind me.
I bet you will get one before I do!
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Old 06-03-2002, 08:29 AM   #75
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The qualifying group is so weak that the best country in the group are countries like saudia arabia, china, and costa rica.

It cannot be purely financial as the viewing audience for Holland V Czech is always going to be more than these lesser football nations.
Sorry Charly, I just read an article that some 600 million (!) Chinese people are expected to watch their country debut at the World Cup

Oh, and FYI I'm Dutch, so as my team fucked up, I'm supporting our neighbours, the Belgians! (Go red devils!!)
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whats the population of Holland again?
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Too much words, guys!
The main point here---FUN & GAME!!!
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Soccer is popular becuase anyone can play....

as far as being boring .... I would say its on the same level as hockey always action unlike fucking baseball which is boring as hell till the worldseries...


fuck 2 players playing catch, while another trys to hit the ball rest of the guys sit around picking there ass
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Old 06-03-2002, 10:20 AM   #79
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is that who is "fixed" to win it.

tks
NO... 'cause this is a little but great contry in the North - that dont have the financial or politiclal interest of FIFA

my contry won our qualifying group - fair and square - a group that also included Czech rep.

if you dont know the danish team perhaps you dont know football at all.

i honestly believe that we have a good chance to make a better result than '98 (1/4 finals). even though we dont have the laudrup brothers and "the great dane" anymore.

get real you fool ... USA, S-A and China are their for political and finacial reasons only.

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Can I have some of the drugs that Charly and the xxxChamp guy are on? Something that alters your mind enough to make normal reasoning that fucked up has gotta be good shit.
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LMAO

That was pretty funny Tipsy... hehehehe
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As a Brazilian, I think I should add some words.

First off, there was one (and only one) country that won the World Cup outside of its continent: Brazil won in Sweden, 1958.

About politics: for a long time, only 16 countries played the finals. There was a Brazlian guy, Joćo Havelange, who ruled FIFA for many years; every time there was an election, Havelange wanted to increase the number of teams (until reaching the current 32). Havelange said he wanted to give more chances to other countries and continents, and his adversaries said he wanted just to get more votes (which he indeed did).

As far as I remember, the weaker Continents (Africa and Asia), which have many countries (and many votes, one country = one vote), were given a few new openings in the finals, but Europe was given many more (South America was given just one more). So, Europeans don“t have much to complain about; if it is hard today (I personally agree that Holland should be in again), it was harder earlier.

I don“t really care much. Is Saudi Arabia too weak? Right, let Germany beat it 8x0, but Germany will have to beat Brazil, Argentina or France on its way to title. But I am sure that the Saudis, the Chinese, the Costa Ricans and all the other countries will enjoy much their participation in the Cup (which is, afterall, the main goal of all this story).

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nice reply, brazz.

please tell me howcome romario didnt get a place on your team (you could have used him in the first half today)
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Very good Brazz...

Romario is not in the team, for "political" shit... he does not like the coach and the coach feels the same for Romario.

Also Brazz, thanks for correcting me on the Brasil '58 victory... I had forgotten about that.. even though that was Pelé's breakout year... And he was just 17... what an athlete.

Peace!
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WTFITA,
When Scollari, the Brazilian coach, assumed the Brazilian team, he was friends with Romario, and Romario was the captain of the team.
Then, Brazil went to play America Cup, a less important competition; Romario asked not to go, saying he was going to have a surgery.
Instead, Romario went to another competition with Vasco, his team, got some extra money, and spent some vacation im Mexico. Romario lied and Brazil lost America Cup (which almost caused Scolari to be sacked).
Scolari took it personally and, just before going to Japan, he admitted that this was the reason why he didn“t call Romario.
Surveys among fans and the press indicate that most wanted Romario to go; I think Brazil will miss him, just like we did in France (Ronaldinho is younger and stronger, but Romario is more willing to take responsibilities when the match is tight).

Dax,
I (and the whole world outside US) agree with you: Pelé = genius.
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So let's make it clear for those kids.

The qualifying group is so weak that the best country in the group are countries like saudia arabia, china, and costa rica. Any European side can beat these, save Luxumburg and San Marino.

It never used to be like this. But since it has become political and finacial, these qualification groups have produced these "qualifiers"

It cannot be purely financial as the viewing audience for Holland V Czech is always going to be more than these lesser football nations.

Yes they get pulled out of a bag, but who controls what nations go into the bag? If it was not so do you think they would be holding the Worl Cup in Japan & Korea?

Is it getting clearer to the younger members of the board?

CHARLY......

KOREA 2 BELGIUM 0

Ok so what do you have to say now ???? Belgium a European country who supposedly rightfully qualified over Holland and Czech Rep... got badly beaten by the "weak" host ......

Now what? Can you please admit you FUCKED UP! And you have no clue of what the fuck u are talking about?????
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CHARLY......

KOREA 2 BELGIUM 0

Ok so what do you have to say now ???? Belgium a European country who supposedly rightfully qualified over Holland and Czech Rep... got badly beaten by the "weak" host ......

Now what? Can you please admit you FUCKED UP! And you have no clue of what the fuck u are talking about?????
Actually it was Poland who lost from Korea, not Belgium ...

I think they played 2-2 against Japan.
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obviously seems "charly" is not a big enough man to admit it.
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Mike you are right.. I guess staying up all these mornings to watch the games... got to me.. =)

Like I said.. isn't Poland from Europe? and didn't they qualify over the netherlands, czech among others??

Enough said! =)
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CHARLY......

KOREA 2 BELGIUM 0

Ok so what do you have to say now ???? Belgium a European country who supposedly rightfully qualified over Holland and Czech Rep... got badly beaten by the "weak" host ......

Now what? Can you please admit you FUCKED UP! And you have no clue of what the fuck u are talking about?????
Am I blind? Can anyone see me say Korea in this?

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saudia arabia, china, and costa rica
This is what makes soccer so exciting. Swindon, Sunderland, West Ham (when they were 2nd division) winning the cup.

Plus the idiots you meet on the terraces, plus here as well it seems? Did I say Korea?
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Charly, here is what you said:

" Yes they get pulled out of a bag, but who controls what nations go into the bag? If it was not so do you think they would be holding the Worl Cup in Japan & Korea? "

MY POINT IS, THE WORLD CUP IS NOT FIXED!!


Another point, we will see who goes farther: Korea who beat a European country... ( which is in the world cup by being better than the teams you mentioned ) or Costa Rica

We all have diff opinions some more fucked up than others.
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Charly, UR wrong admit it, the world cup is NOT FIXED and couldnt be. now whos the retard?
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About politics: for a long time, only 16 countries played the finals. There was a Brazlian guy, Joćo Havelange, who ruled FIFA for many years; every time there was an election, Havelange wanted to increase the number of teams (until reaching the current 32). Havelange said he wanted to give more chances to other countries and continents, and his adversaries said he wanted just to get more votes (which he indeed did).
Someone else agrees with me?

I am only saying the qualifying rounds are arranged so that weaker side canl get in. But when the whistle blows anything can happen.
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Qualifying is there to pick the teams that deserve to go and to give everyone the chance.

Is not like Senegal is a futbol power... yet they beat France... =\

THAT is why they play the games...
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Charly changing ur tune again i see, lol ur funny
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I am only saying the qualifying rounds are arranged so that weaker side canl get in.
Didn't you say Saudi Arabia was "weak"?
hmmm I recall them playing.
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To everyone that doubted the USA GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

USA 3
Portugal 2

USA scored 3 goals in the first half.
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portugal has never played this weak for a long time.

congratulations to you american but honestly get real non of you really expected this.

what do you think this will do to american soccer?. how big is soccer in america?
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Thanks refree for that

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xxxchamp- I honestly thought the USA was going to draw against Portugal. Soccer or Futbol will never be the #1 sport in America. Too many sports to choose from. Plus, Americans in general love high scoring games. However, we do have a league that has been going since 96' http://majorleaguesoccer.com and it will continue to grow. This was a win for the ages amigo.

BTW...whose is your team and what country are you from? The USA will advance to the 2nd round and I have them bowing out in the Final 8. There you go. That is my prediction.
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