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Old 06-01-2002, 08:25 PM   #1
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Why does the HUN post galleries like this?

http://www.22469.com/gallery/celeb015/thehun.htm

This was posted at the Hun.

These are video clips taken from major hollywood movies. This is 100% copyright violation. The Hun must know that, so why does he support it?

This really lowers my opinion of the hun, I've read some posts of his where he says some very intelligent things, but then I see him post shit like this and it makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with him?
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Pam suckin' Tommy's schlong was a major motion flick?
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AMP, have you heard of American Pie or American Beauty?
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:28 PM   #4
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AMP, have you heard of American Pie or American Beauty?
nope.... enlighten me.
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why shouldn't the hun post it.
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They are both movies.
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They are both movies.
oh,..... okay..... so what was the question again?

why don't you ask the Hun why he posts it?
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what angry the hun didnt post YOUR Gallery?

what he does is his business
what i do is my business
what you do is your business

take care of your business
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It's funny to see that Hun posts the gallery in such a serious copyright violation and you think it's normal while you blame the other small guys for less serious things.
Ass kissers.
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Don't you guys care that he is supporting people who steal and cheat?
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:42 PM   #11
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dude
it's his responsibility
just as it would be yours.

dont tell people how to run their business
just take care of yours

if he has a problem with listing that gallery. it's HIS responsibility NOT Yours.
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:42 PM   #12
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Yeah, you guys are totally kissing the hun's ass.

I don't like to see people supporting stealing content and cheating so I'm pointing it out to others. Meanwhile, you guys tell me to mind my own business.

Maybe I should go and steal some content and use it. Obviously the hun isn't going to mind.
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:44 PM   #13
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who's kissing ass? I don't see any ass kissing...
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:50 PM   #15
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Yeah, you guys are totally kissing the hun's ass.

I don't like to see people supporting stealing content and cheating so I'm pointing it out to others. Meanwhile, you guys tell me to mind my own business.

Maybe I should go and steal some content and use it. Obviously the hun isn't going to mind.
that is your business.
if thats what you wish to do.. do it
i dont care.. it's not my business
just be prepared when some moron asks on GFY

"why did this guy use this content?"
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:52 PM   #17
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If we all mind only our own business there would be a lot more crap on the net like CP sites, sites with stolen content, rape etc etc and I'm not talking about real life.
how do you think most of these sites get caught and shut down?
People report them.
is it their business? no. Does it help the industry? yes
hyper when you mistakely hit one of these sites you probably think "Ahh these aren't my kids I don't care not my business"
That's trivial example, there are lots of examples in real life where we shouldn't mind only our own business.
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:55 PM   #18
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then go report it..

its a simple solution
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Old 06-01-2002, 08:58 PM   #19
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hyper you sound too narrow minded.
I was about to explain you why when posting this message but thougth you wouldn't understand a shit so I better save my time

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Old 06-01-2002, 09:05 PM   #20
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If we all mind only our own business there would be a lot more crap on the net like CP sites, sites with stolen content, rape etc etc and I'm not talking about real life.
how do you think most of these sites get caught and shut down?
People report them.
is it their business? no. Does it help the industry? yes
hyper when you mistakely hit one of these sites you probably think "Ahh these aren't my kids I don't care not my business"
That's trivial example, there are lots of examples in real life where we shouldn't mind only our own business.
I agree. When we see people stealing, hotlinking, using CP, etc... we should tell others about it.

The Hun should know better.
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Old 06-01-2002, 09:05 PM   #21
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this thread uses the word 'business' alot.
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bah if it really isn't obvious enough: although there is no difference between pirated and stolen content in the eyes of the law, stealing someones set of pics or movies of adult content IS different conceptually and morally than cutting out a 1 minute nude scene from a mainstream movie that anyone can watch in any number of ways, dvd, hbo, blah blah blah. You steal someones adult content intended for that market you're directly fucking them, it's money comming right out of their pocket. A horny guy who wants to jerk it isn't going to wade through all of american pie just so he can spank it to the 5 seconds or so you can see of savari's tits. And someone who wants to see american pie isn't going to be satisfied with a 5 second flip of savari's tits. However, someone who wants to see an asian transvestite eat an amputee monkey will be plenty satisfied with stolen pics or those from a legitimate source in a very precise and exact way.
It has nothing to do with kissing the hun's ass and a lot more to do with:
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Old 06-01-2002, 09:24 PM   #24
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dipshit moron retard I would agree with you if there were no banners at all on this page and guy wasn't making any money off it.
But he has banners on this page and he is making profit.
In this case I see no difference between stealing "an asian transvestite eat an amputee monkey" and mainstream movies.
Copyright violation in both cases.
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From what I read, in an article written by an IP lawyer, celebrity content is not illegal if you use only a small sample from a film, like a short clip or some captures, and if you make an editorial comment on it. Then it falls into the fair use category.

I have no idea if that's true, but it's the argument that lawyers representing celeb sites use, and apparently there is some stuff in the U.S. copyright laws to back that up.

However, that gallery really doesn't have any editorial content, so I doubt that they could claim fair use for that specific use. In fact, they're using celeb content to promote a site/product that isn't related to the creator of the content so it probably would be illegal.

If you have a problem with it, why not contact the guy who made the gallery, or the hun directly?

I nominate this as the weekly "mommy, look what the hun posted" thread.
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I got that exact gallery submitted to me and I denied it, thought the same thing as brown bear
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this thread uses the word 'business' alot.
umm its not?
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if you want to be anti copyright infringement in every sense of the word thats perfectly respectable. however there is a big market out there of surfers who would like to see a collection of naked famous people. where else can they go to get it? nowhere legitimately. someone will always fill this need, always. is it legal for them to be making money off this stuff? no. is it moral? all things considered, i think its a toss up. whos really being hurt by any of it? you can say "the adult industry's reputation", but gimmie a break, you know how much free advertising we've gotten due to the media broadcasting the fact that you can see so many celeberties nude online? you have to put celebrity sites in context, comparing them to joeblow hotlinker or whatever is like apples and oranges.
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I got that exact gallery submitted to me and I denied it, thought the same thing as brown bear
Its nice to see that not all the people here support cheaters. Good job Pipecrew.
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brown bear out of curiousity, what do you think abotu all the surfers that want celeb content? do you think they should be ignored completely, or what? do you have a solution you wouldnt classify as 'cheating' ?
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Its nice to see that not all the people here support cheaters. Good job Pipecrew.
did anyone say or imply they support cheaters?
No

People just told you to mind you own fucking business
nobody gives a fuck cept you and whats his face
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bah if it really isn't obvious enough: although there is no difference between pirated and stolen content in the eyes of the law, stealing someones set of pics or movies of adult content IS different conceptually and morally than cutting out a 1 minute nude scene from a mainstream movie that anyone can watch in any number of ways, dvd, hbo, blah blah blah. You steal someones adult content intended for that market you're directly fucking them, it's money comming right out of their pocket. A horny guy who wants to jerk it isn't going to wade through all of american pie just so he can spank it to the 5 seconds or so you can see of savari's tits. And someone who wants to see american pie isn't going to be satisfied with a 5 second flip of savari's tits. However, someone who wants to see an asian transvestite eat an amputee monkey will be plenty satisfied with stolen pics or those from a legitimate source in a very precise and exact way.
It has nothing to do with kissing the hun's ass and a lot more to do with:
Im sure many people would wade through all of american pie to see 5 seconds or so of savari's tits
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I'm sure there are a lot of surfers that want celeb content, but stealing clips from hollywood movies isn't the answer.
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I'm sure there are a lot of surfers that want celeb content, but stealing clips from hollywood movies isn't the answer.
do you have an answer, or even a suggestion? anything at all? what do you think should done with the current surfer who wants celebrity content?
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do you have an answer, or even a suggestion? anything at all? what do you think should done with the current surfer who wants celebrity content?
Here is my suggestion:

Offer them some legal celeb content.

If you can't find any legal celeb content to use. Then I guess you're out of luck.
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dipshit moron retard if there is not enough narcotic for drug addicted people in your city would you approve guys who sell narcotic?
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dipshit moron retard if there is not enough narcotic for drug addicted people in your city would you approve guys who sell narcotic?
i think you missed the part earlier where i asked where the harm was? why waste a post comparing dicks to watermelons.
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i think you missed the part earlier where i asked where the harm was? why waste a post comparing dicks to watermelons.
Here is where the harm is:

Its a copyright violation. (ie: its illegal)

The person who posted that gallery does not own that content, and does not have the legal right to be using it.
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Ever think he just made a mistake the guy approves more than 100 galleries per day
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Ever think he just made a mistake the guy approves more than 100 galleries per day
No, I don't think he made a mistake because I've seen stuff like this on the hun before.
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From what I read, in an article written by an IP lawyer, celebrity content is not illegal if you use only a small sample from a film, like a short clip or some captures, and if you make an editorial comment on it. Then it falls into the fair use category.
This hardly falls under the category of editorial comment. It is a clear example of copyright infringement if the site owner does not have license to use it, which I would be very surprised if he does.

I have a feeling that the only reason it got accepted is because of who submitted it, and how much they pay thehun to get their galleries listed.

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Here is where the harm is:

Its a copyright violation. (ie: its illegal)

The person who posted that gallery does not own that content, and does not have the legal right to be using it.

blah blah blah went over all this earlier, you people are so obtuse.
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I got that exact gallery submitted to me and I denied it, thought the same thing as brown bear
Didn't know Ken submits to TGPs/MGPs where he doesn't buy slots on. However, I just saw owner of celeb skin on national TV the other day. He told the interviewer that he just cuts out movie clips off movies and I still don't see his site taken down Maybe some loop holes we are not aware of?
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seriously dipshit moron retard if there is no direct harm in it it's still wrong.
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seriously dipshit moron retard if there is no direct harm in it it's still wrong.
img srcing people you disagree with is right however

duhhhhhhh. why talk at all?
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if you want to be anti copyright infringement in every sense of the word thats perfectly respectable. however there is a big market out there of surfers who would like to see a collection of naked famous people. where else can they go to get it? nowhere legitimately. someone will always fill this need, always. is it legal for them to be making money off this stuff? no. is it moral? all things considered, i think its a toss up. whos really being hurt by any of it? you can say "the adult industry's reputation", but gimmie a break, you know how much free advertising we've gotten due to the media broadcasting the fact that you can see so many celeberties nude online? you have to put celebrity sites in context, comparing them to joeblow hotlinker or whatever is like apples and oranges.
all I can say is that you obviously put a lot of thought into the choice of your screen name with that response.

Yeah, there is a solution for the surfer that wants celeb content, get a fucking license to use it. Who knows, maybe Ken did, he makes a lot of money. If he did not, then he is breaking the law, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
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it's his responsibility
just as it would be yours.

dont tell people how to run their business
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if he has a problem with listing that gallery. it's HIS responsibility NOT Yours.

BRAVO BRAVO STANDING OVATION
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