Is an exit console on a TGP site a no-no? - GoFuckYourself.com

hybrid · 07-12-2002, 09:50 AM

just curious

jimmyf · 07-12-2002, 10:05 AM

A TPG can do anything they want. But your gallery on most can not have one.

playa · 07-12-2002, 10:06 AM

a TGP with an exit consoles is cheating,,,

try CJ2 sites

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by playa
a TGP with an exit consoles is cheating,,,

try CJ2 sites

Cheating who exactly? What a strange comment. It may piss of the surfers so you'll have trouble with bookmarkers but that's about it.

Shooter · 07-12-2002, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

Cheating who exactly? What a strange comment. It may piss of the surfers so you'll have trouble with bookmarkers but that's about it.

Your trades

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Shooter

Your trades

Somebody else who's making no sense. Who mentioned trades. Trades are usually good on a tgp but why must he have and be cheating trades? Even then many are OK as long as you're not sending traffic to them via the exit.

All the guy asked is about an exit console on a TGP. No mention of trades was made.

Shooter · 07-12-2002, 10:18 AM

I was clarifying what playa meant

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Shooter
I was clarifying what playa meant

And like I said he was making no sense. The guy never mentioned trades. To say it was cheating remains a strange reply.

auntiesocial · 07-12-2002, 10:25 AM

Its your site do what you want, you might also want to consider auto download of a dialer, setting the surfers home page and disabling the back button. Personaly as a tgp owner and surfer I prefer a regular tgp with clean galleries rather than a circle jerk, no pop ups, exit consols etc, it takes longer to build traffic but in the long run its better quality, if there is such a thing!

Babaganoosh · 07-12-2002, 10:25 AM

It seems that a fair number (maybe half or a little more) of TGPs say "NO CONSOLES" in their trade rules. If you're going to use a popup, make sure your trades are all cool with it.

I have tried it with and without an exit console and found that I lost bookmarkers when I added a console. In the end, the lost revenue from the loss of bookmarkers wasn't worth the little bit I made on the exits.

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 10:28 AM

I've done much the same in the past. Bookmarkers DO make money from a TGP if setup right and losing them for the small sales an exit makes isn't worth it. CJ2 was mentioned and is far better suited if you wanna start popping things up.

Trenton · 07-12-2002, 10:29 AM

Using extra advertising (a popup) to try and make money with non-converting bookmark traffic is CHEATING

Sending that shit bookmark traffic to a trade with an exit is CHEATING... ya know why??? Because they know its worthless and dont want that traffic.

Disil · 07-12-2002, 10:32 AM

Dont expect your TGP to grow fast with an exit console. The bookmarks will shift to your trades who have no popups very soon. Without bookmarks your TGP is worth nothing.

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 10:33 AM

Seems the fucking idiot's back. Now I know why I got him on ignore. To restate the point because you have big trouble understanding simple concepts or even reading threads properly Trenton - nobody mentioned sending exit traffic to trades. Even then some people will happily trade that way.

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Using extra advertising (a popup) to try and make money with non-converting bookmark traffic is CHEATING

Do you actually make any money from this? You obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about or doing.

Back to ignoring you, as I've said before life's too short to spend it arguing with assholes. That'll teach me to click on view post.

Thought I'd better edit as you beat me to reply. The fucking idiot comment is obviously not aimed at Disil just to clarify.

playa · 07-12-2002, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

And like I said he was making no sense. The guy never mentioned trades. To say it was cheating remains a strange reply.

hmm obviously you don't understand the webmastering rules of trading traffic,,,

TGP means a site with content mixed with blind links for trades
with 0 consoles,,,

CJ2 means a site with extremely small amount of content with one exit console,, usually not chained consoles

CJ means a site with 0 content with the use of entrance and exit consoles

and i can go on and on with various other types of sites

these are the standards 99.99% of traffic traders obide by these rules,,, violation of the rules is considered cheating your traffic trades,,,,

is this any clear for you?

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 11:18 AM

I'll post this in big letters as obviously it's a little complex for you to understand so maybe 'shouting' will help.

WHO MENTIONED TRADING TRAFFIC???

Apart from that NOT ALL TRADES BAN EXIT CONSOLES ALTHOUGH MOST DO

Cheating only applies IF you are trading with people who don't allow exits. If you are not or even not trading at all for whatever reason (some small TGP's don't) then you are not cheating.

Simple really isn't it?

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 11:21 AM

But then WTF. You obviously don't take the time to read posts or threads properly before replying or you would have understood this earlier. I've probably just wasted my breath (so to speak)

FATPad · 07-12-2002, 11:29 AM

How in the hell is me popping an exit console for InternetEraser (for example) on my TGP cheating trades?

playa · 07-12-2002, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy
WHO MENTIONED TRADING TRAFFIC???
Apart from that NOT ALL TRADES BAN EXIT CONSOLES ALTHOUGH MOST DO

Cheating only applies IF you are trading with people who don't allow exits. If you are not or even not trading at all for whatever reason (some small TGP's don't) then you are not cheating.

Simple really isn't it?

a TGP trades traffic
he doesn't have to say it,,its quite obvious that is what this person is asking about

this person has a new TGP and wants to know if he can add an exit console,,,

generally its consider cheating cuz TGP's don't have consoles,,,

besides you answered your own question,,,

Tipsy · 07-12-2002, 11:41 AM

What the fuck are you going on about now? You haven't explained in any way how having an exit console is just general cheating as stated in your original post.

I'm going around in circles here so will probably stop posting as there's better things to do.

Here goes again...

Sending trades to another site through an exit console is normally cheating unless you are trading this way by agreement.
Nobody ever mentioned trades.
Exit consoles have many uses other than trades.
No I would not recommend one on a TGP but it has fuck all to do with 'cheating'.

Good grief. Learn to read and learn to post too. What's up with all these commas?

playa · 07-12-2002, 11:53 AM

you must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something to get mad at something so silly,,you ask me to clarify my answer and i answered it,,
just like shooter answered it for you,,,

cheating means you break a rule,,,
but if your trades don't care than its ok then,,
but then again if 20 trades say no but 2 trades say yes
your still cheating 18 others,,

hence why i said try CJ2 trades if you wanna add exit,,

read all the different TGP trading rules,,, hell go to sextracker top 100 and 99.9% say 0 consoles for trades,,

the Shemp · 07-12-2002, 12:43 PM

If I am sending you traffic, I dont want to see a console on your page. There is no consol on my page. If i send you a surfer and he wants to come back to my site, I dont want him to have to got through exit ads.

If you want to use exit ads, make a duplicate page for the search engines and then a clean page for your trades.

shemp

Steve · 07-12-2002, 02:05 PM

many TGP sites will have a no-console page version, to trade with guys like the Shemp, who does not allow console trades. Then, they have an exit console version, to allow trading with exit consoles. I have this on a mature TGP - as do many other sites. This practice seems to be more prevelant on niche TGP sites - it is pretty common to see an exit pop off of a pornstar TGP these days.

It is only considered "cheating" if your trade partners do not trade with sites that pop a console. That is pretty basic - it goes for consoles, skimming/blind linking off of thumbnail images, etc etc.

07-12-2002, 09:50 AM	#1
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07-12-2002, 10:25 AM	#9
auntiesocial Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4	Its your site do what you want, you might also want to consider auto download of a dialer, setting the surfers home page and disabling the back button. Personaly as a tgp owner and surfer I prefer a regular tgp with clean galleries rather than a circle jerk, no pop ups, exit consols etc, it takes longer to build traffic but in the long run its better quality, if there is such a thing! __________________ [image]http://www.kpnw27518.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/buttons/pixad.gif[/image] 5000 LICENCED PICS $99.95 @ PIXMASTERS. Win $100 in content for posting @ ADULTDEN.

07-12-2002, 10:25 AM	#10
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	It seems that a fair number (maybe half or a little more) of TGPs say "NO CONSOLES" in their trade rules. If you're going to use a popup, make sure your trades are all cool with it. I have tried it with and without an exit console and found that I lost bookmarkers when I added a console. In the end, the lost revenue from the loss of bookmarkers wasn't worth the little bit I made on the exits. __________________ I like pie.

07-12-2002, 10:28 AM	#11
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I've done much the same in the past. Bookmarkers DO make money from a TGP if setup right and losing them for the small sales an exit makes isn't worth it. CJ2 was mentioned and is far better suited if you wanna start popping things up. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-12-2002, 10:06 AM	#3
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	a TGP with an exit consoles is cheating,,, try CJ2 sites

07-12-2002, 10:18 AM	#7
Shooter Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,842	I was clarifying what playa meant

07-12-2002, 10:29 AM	#12
Trenton Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany Posts: 471	Using extra advertising (a popup) to try and make money with non-converting bookmark traffic is CHEATING Sending that shit bookmark traffic to a trade with an exit is CHEATING... ya know why??? Because they know its worthless and dont want that traffic.

07-12-2002, 10:32 AM	#13
Disil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 70	Dont expect your TGP to grow fast with an exit console. The bookmarks will shift to your trades who have no popups very soon. Without bookmarks your TGP is worth nothing.

07-12-2002, 11:18 AM	#16
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I'll post this in big letters as obviously it's a little complex for you to understand so maybe 'shouting' will help. WHO MENTIONED TRADING TRAFFIC??? Apart from that NOT ALL TRADES BAN EXIT CONSOLES ALTHOUGH MOST DO Cheating only applies IF you are trading with people who don't allow exits. If you are not or even not trading at all for whatever reason (some small TGP's don't) then you are not cheating. Simple really isn't it? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-12-2002, 11:21 AM	#17
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	But then WTF. You obviously don't take the time to read posts or threads properly before replying or you would have understood this earlier. I've probably just wasted my breath (so to speak) __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-12-2002, 11:29 AM	#18
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	How in the hell is me popping an exit console for InternetEraser (for example) on my TGP cheating trades? __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

07-12-2002, 11:41 AM	#20
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	What the fuck are you going on about now? You haven't explained in any way how having an exit console is just general cheating as stated in your original post. I'm going around in circles here so will probably stop posting as there's better things to do. Here goes again... Sending trades to another site through an exit console is normally cheating unless you are trading this way by agreement. Nobody ever mentioned trades. Exit consoles have many uses other than trades. No I would not recommend one on a TGP but it has fuck all to do with 'cheating'. Good grief. Learn to read and learn to post too. What's up with all these commas? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-12-2002, 11:53 AM	#21
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	you must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something to get mad at something so silly,,you ask me to clarify my answer and i answered it,, just like shooter answered it for you,,, cheating means you break a rule,,, but if your trades don't care than its ok then,, but then again if 20 trades say no but 2 trades say yes your still cheating 18 others,, hence why i said try CJ2 trades if you wanna add exit,, read all the different TGP trading rules,,, hell go to sextracker top 100 and 99.9% say 0 consoles for trades,,

07-12-2002, 12:43 PM	#22
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	If I am sending you traffic, I dont want to see a console on your page. There is no consol on my page. If i send you a surfer and he wants to come back to my site, I dont want him to have to got through exit ads. If you want to use exit ads, make a duplicate page for the search engines and then a clean page for your trades. shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

07-12-2002, 02:05 PM	#23
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	many TGP sites will have a no-console page version, to trade with guys like the Shemp, who does not allow console trades. Then, they have an exit console version, to allow trading with exit consoles. I have this on a mature TGP - as do many other sites. This practice seems to be more prevelant on niche TGP sites - it is pretty common to see an exit pop off of a pornstar TGP these days. It is only considered "cheating" if your trade partners do not trade with sites that pop a console. That is pretty basic - it goes for consoles, skimming/blind linking off of thumbnail images, etc etc.