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Old 06-01-2002, 09:56 AM   #1
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XXXmovieforum.com is a HOTLINKER!!!

Watch out for this person!! They are hotlinking to me!!! I am shutting them down but I thought I would let everyone know.
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:00 AM   #2
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hotlinking movies?
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:01 AM   #3
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yeap,they hotlink tons of webmasters including me. Yesterday I spent two hours contacting the new hotlinkers of the month.
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:03 AM   #4
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This is why I created a very small image (in size) and made some mod_rewrite rules to display an image with my URL on it, when they try to direct link to anything, this actually has brought me some hits, especially when you get those guys that steal shit from your tgp postings and try to put them on message boards. This way now they just see an image pop-up that says...

You ATTEMPTED to hotlink an image from...

and I spit out my URL

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Old 06-01-2002, 10:26 AM   #5
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This will never do, I will have their nuts crunched. They got some nerve and I hope the GFYers ban their site or send them hate email for sure.
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:27 AM   #6
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They got me too.. I will be glad to see them gone.
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:54 AM   #7
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How are you SHUTTING them down? they are fucking huge, like mammoth, Yes I get hotlinked from them too, but shutting them down wont work
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Old 06-01-2002, 11:03 AM   #8
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Let's all IMG SRC the site to death.

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Old 06-01-2002, 11:08 AM   #9
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go check out the refferrers list
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Old 06-01-2002, 12:29 PM   #10
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Yeah i contacted their hosting company and they removed the link but said they would only block the user that made that post.

But if there are more people out there who have been hot link to by them post it here! I am not done and will do what I can to try and shut these guys all down.
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Old 06-01-2002, 12:51 PM   #11
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Keep posting...I am emailing this link to ISPrime. I am fucking sick of paying the bandwidth costs for those fuckers to make money. If I have to I will stick my lawyers on them
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Old 06-01-2002, 02:24 PM   #12
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yes, i have been hotlinked by them on 3 occaisons that I know of (many more times that I dont know of im sure)

Pipe is right, they are huge, but that doesnt mean there is nothing we can do about it. The amount of other webmaster's bandwidth that they burn is tremendous.

Lets do something about this if we can guys
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Old 06-01-2002, 02:28 PM   #13
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the bigger they are the more u can get in a lawsuit
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Old 06-01-2002, 02:47 PM   #14
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What about yahoo groups movies hotlinker? I have a lot like this:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xCLIPSx/message/7309
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Old 06-01-2002, 03:07 PM   #15
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Yeah and how about phatforums.com too...

lets shut all these fuckers down - then let's go over to china and get all those fuckers too with some pipes and bicycle chains...
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Old 06-01-2002, 05:31 PM   #16
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ok here is the response to my email....

I will take this into consideration, and will get back to you when we come to a decision on what to do about this. In terms of immediate abuse, that thread has been cancelled, if we see that the site has a generally inappropriate nature, then we will make a further decision based on that.

I have forwarded your complaint to my boss, and I will let you know as soon as I know more. --Phil ISPrime

On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Fantasy Content wrote:

> Phil,
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> I have multiple webmasters saying that this site has hot linked them.
> I know this is the second time I have had to email you on this
> website. If I forward you the URL's to the webmaster boards where you
> can read how many times this site is hot linking are you willing to
> take harsher action? I am not satisfied that this is resolved. Yes, I
> no longer being hot linked but what about the bandwidth they used
> during the time my site was down? My customers were unable to access
> my database for 24 hours due to this. I lost money because of your
> client and this is not the first time. I have tried to use scripting
> to stop this but it interferes with my customers being able to view my
> samples and considering this is my server I shouldn't have too. I look
> forward to hearing your response.
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> Here is one example
> http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...18985#post7189
> 85
>
> and from the responses I am getting I can send you A LOT more....
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> Thanks,
> Dan


So my advise is to contacting [email protected] and let them know about your troubles with this company. If enough people email I am sure they will take action!!
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Old 06-01-2002, 05:38 PM   #17
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well, this is pretty funny. AaronM is in Montreal, and the guy that runs xxxmovieforum is there also, in fact, Aaron just had drinks with him . . . . but he was unaware that the guy was a hotlinking scumbag.

Aaron has provided this picture (the guy with his back to the camera, now we know why).

Anyway, AaronM is willing to go kick the guys ass, so I am taking up a collection towards this cause. Any takers?
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Old 06-01-2002, 05:48 PM   #18
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if i look my log files their hotlinking boards will appear more times than my own sites! I don't understand these people.....

Yesterday i mailed another hotlinker telling him to remove my sites from his page. He had near 1gb of movies with direct downloads,no sponsors nothing......He did so and he told me that he traffic converts great and i shouldn't worry.....
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Old 06-01-2002, 06:00 PM   #19
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Old 06-01-2002, 06:02 PM   #20
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Funny pic.
yeah a Motley Crue if I ever saw one. Expect my next call from Aaron being him in a Canadian jail

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GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!







GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!







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Old 06-01-2002, 06:07 PM   #21
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Funny this thread should come up today..

I just got hotlinked AGAIN by both the above mentioned bbs's, this time it shut down my ded.. 100mbits / sec

Crashed the entire server!
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Old 06-01-2002, 06:15 PM   #22
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imagine.....maybe we should send them the bandwidth bill
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Old 06-01-2002, 06:41 PM   #23
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how do you think they find all of the movies in the first place?
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Old 06-01-2002, 07:16 PM   #24
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how do you think they find all of the movies in the first place?
huh?
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Old 06-01-2002, 07:23 PM   #25
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huh?
the same people posting tons of movies from all different sites, wtf do they find them all? that seems like it would be incredible tedious to go through sooo many sites full of bullshit everyday just looking for the extremely rare decent free movie.
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dude, I can show you sites that list literally tens of thousands of links to movies of all types, formats and sizes.

Do you have any idea how many surfers and hackers there are out there with nothing to do but compile these lists and post them on some hackers board?

Trust me, they are out there in droves. You been to a newsgroup lately? where do you think the concept of "public domain" came from?

Oh, just because I said I "could" show you these sites, does not mean I will. No sense tempting the weak of integrity.
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One could easily have a spider crawl certain sites daily and index keyworded movie listings ;)
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dude, I can show you sites that list literally tens of thousands of links to movies of all types, formats and sizes.

Do you have any idea how many surfers and hackers there are out there with nothing to do but compile these lists and post them on some hackers board?

Trust me, they are out there in droves. You been to a newsgroup lately? where do you think the concept of "public domain" came from?

Oh, just because I said I "could" show you these sites, does not mean I will. No sense tempting the weak of integrity.
im not doubting their existence, obviously everyone and their mom knows of about a trillion "free movie" sites and e-groups. this doesn't make you any kind of superspy secret agent kneedeep in the 8th grader hardon underground dude. my question was more directed at, do these guys just sit here manually going through site after site all day long or do they have automated spiders or what? the volume of sites advertising 'free movies' compared to the sites which actually really do have at least 1 free movie seems enormously difficult to drudge through looking for the gems everyday to post on their messageboards.
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I am sure they use spiders, and I have personally seen examples of spiders when I was learning php- it is terribly easy to do this shit. But it is even easier to add an .htaccess that stops the hotlinking, right?
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But it is even easier to add an .htaccess that stops the hotlinking, right?
well, you would think so, wouldn't you? But .htaccess only works on servers like apache from what I understand.

I am sure the others have security measures too, but apparently not enough people know them or they are too easy to crack.
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I dont think he himself hotlinks.. its the people that post at his board
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Can't hotlink protect mpegs, you can only rename them.

Fucking hotlinking scum.
Phatforums will going down soon enough.

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Can't hotlink protect mpegs, you can only rename them.

Fucking hotlinking scum.
Phatforums will going down soon enough.
Yes you can hotlink protect mpegs - you just need the right server with the right software.

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the movies there are at least 2mb big.. if someone posts a movie less than 2mb, its marked as spam. So, simply put a limit on filesizes on your server (500kb or so) and that should solve your problems
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Michealw, why does your signature say you are selling terra.es accounts? Do you enjoy promoting cheaters and people who steal bandwidth from others?
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If not apache, what web servers are you guys running? .htaccess isn't [ofcourse] the only way to protect yourself against leechers. Designing in ASP? There are a number of ways to go about it; checking referrer headers or checking session variables, and server.transfer('ing or response.binarywrite('ing to the client as a result. PHP whore? The equivalent could be done in PHP too without a fuss.

But, if you're like most of the adult webdesigners you're stuck in the stagnant world of old school HTML and don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

It never ceases to amaze me how many webmasters spend so long fucking around designing and uploading static pages and galleries. For the love of god, go dynamic !

Grab a good book on ASP or PHP if you're so inclined.

PS yep I'm new to this board, hope I can contribute to such a thriving community!

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Hi,

Let me put things in order here. I have said this before & will say it again. If you the webmaster is being hotlinked by one of my members just email me & I delete the post & your url is banned on all the forums & the member is warned not to post your url again.

( Anyway, AaronM is willing to go kick the guys ass, so I am taking up a collection towards this cause. Any takers? )

LOL, big talk no action & AaronM you are an hypocrite. This is worse then being a hotlinker. Why not come up to me & ask me whats up with this hotlinking stuff? I guess you were not a man to do it. I am not the guy that hotlinks, get this straight. I give away free forums, I can't control what my members do every second, I try to monitor the forums as much as I could. When I get a complaint, I get to it on a snap. Don't forget Aeron, I know who you are & kicking my ass is a threat + posting my pic on the net without my authorisation, I would be careful if I were you.
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If not apache, what web servers are you guys running? .htaccess isn't [ofcourse] the only way to protect yourself against leechers. Designing in ASP? There are a number of ways to go about it; checking referrer headers or checking session variables, and server.transfer('ing or response.binarywrite('ing to the client as a result. PHP whore? The equivalent could be done in PHP too without a fuss.

But, if you're like most of the adult webdesigners you're stuck in the stagnant world of old school HTML and don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

It never ceases to amaze me how many webmasters spend so long fucking around designing and uploading static pages and galleries. For the love of god, go dynamic !

Grab a good book on ASP or PHP if you're so inclined.

PS yep I'm new to this board, hope I can contribute to such a thriving community!

Have a good one
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I keep on saying the same thing Its so much easier to control 100 galleries with php then with static html the initial cost might be more but in the long run you save a ton.
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I am not the guy that hotlinks, get this straight. I give away free forums, I can't control what my members do every second
You guys who run these forums all say the same thing. Its not you doing the hotlinking, it seems to me that hotlinking is all anyone uses these forums for.

In my opinion all you do is create forums for hotlinkers to use. You might not be the one doing the hotlinking, but your forums are all about hotlinking. Thats the only reason anyone uses them.

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I keep on saying the same thing Its so much easier to control 100 galleries with php then with static html the initial cost might be more but in the long run you save a ton.
Absolutely! Add database connectivity and you've got a cutting edge website.

I code with MySQL & ASP. It's a bit of a cunt because hardly any hosts offer windows hosting of any significance (read: >100gb/mo).

(any suggestions?)
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stephan, you got mail


also i read your yesterday's post about cookies.

Interesting thing:

Hi Guys,

I am attending the Montreal convention this weekend & my first concern was about the cookies that billing company's use to track sales from your referral links? Ok here is a scoop for everyone that is making their income threw referral programs.... All surfer that have internet explorer 6.0 on their machine as their cookies set to disable automatically. That means you are not getting credit for the sale if somebody clicks on your referral code... Now, how many surfers will enable cookies, not to many. I have spoken to a representative from http://www.paycom.net & they are coming with a solution for this problem, I really think that we should only promote anyone that is using paycom.net for now until other billing company's come up with a solution of their own. It will only help your sales. Most of the webmasters running paysites don't give a shit about this cookie thing but I do, their is no free ride in this business. I work hard on building & marketing my sites & I want to make sure I get proper credit for my efforts. I seriously think you should look into this & complain to your webmaster that owns the paysite that is using cookies to track sales. I will come up with a list of all referral program sites that are using paycom as their credit card processors. No more shaving our hard earned cash....

Thank-you,
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They do that shit alll the time, the only time they ever do anything about it is when someone complains. I have even seen people post usernames and passwords on that site and give thousands of bandwidth sucking assholes access to some poor assholes members section.

Most of the ones that aren't hotlinked are unlicensed illegal bootleg clips from DVD and VHS porn movies. I have been amazed for years that guy hasn't been shut down.
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xxxmovieforum - thats just BS..

you dont stop hotlinkers. i know this for a fact. all you do is get complaints from board owners that someone is "spamming" (posting < 1mb movies) and you ban them - but thats about it. you dont stop hotlinking - you promote it.

same goes for bianca, phatforums, dirtymessages, pornforums, etc, etc, etc
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Old 06-02-2002, 02:56 PM   #45
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xxxmovieforum - thats just BS..

you dont stop hotlinkers. i know this for a fact. all you do is get complaints from board owners that someone is "spamming" (posting < 1mb movies) and you ban them - but thats about it. you dont stop hotlinking - you promote it.

same goes for bianca, phatforums, dirtymessages, pornforums, etc, etc, etc
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Old 06-02-2002, 03:37 PM   #46
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You members can free to use www.verisexy.net to post movies up to 1MB in size. I was really tired of hotlinkers myself. Just don't hotlink off my servers either. People that link directly to movies on other peoples servers are just selfish.

They can use a splitting program to split them into 1MB sizes and I am cool with it as long as they make actual gallerys.


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Let me put things in order here. I have said this before & will say it again. If you the webmaster is being hotlinked by one of my members just email me & I delete the post & your url is banned on all the forums & the member is warned not to post your url again.

( Anyway, AaronM is willing to go kick the guys ass, so I am taking up a collection towards this cause. Any takers? )

LOL, big talk no action & AaronM you are an hypocrite. This is worse then being a hotlinker. Why not come up to me & ask me whats up with this hotlinking stuff? I guess you were not a man to do it. I am not the guy that hotlinks, get this straight. I give away free forums, I can't control what my members do every second, I try to monitor the forums as much as I could. When I get a complaint, I get to it on a snap. Don't forget Aeron, I know who you are & kicking my ass is a threat + posting my pic on the net without my authorisation, I would be careful if I were you.
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Old 06-02-2002, 03:48 PM   #47
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You guys who run these forums all say the same thing. Its not you doing the hotlinking, it seems to me that hotlinking is all anyone uses these forums for.

In my opinion all you do is create forums for hotlinkers to use. You might not be the one doing the hotlinking, but your forums are all about hotlinking. Thats the only reason anyone uses them.

Very well said! Don't cry cuz people call you for what you are! Setting up an area for people to steal makes you just as responsible!! Funny how you have to say "I'll say it again..." most reputable sites never have to say it once!
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the same people posting tons of movies from all different sites, wtf do they find them all? that seems like it would be incredible tedious to go through sooo many sites full of bullshit everyday just looking for the extremely rare decent free movie.
A few things I've learned from pirate boards:

Lots of them don't spend that much time finding the links. Half the time they're just reposting links that others have found on other pirate boards ... You'll see the same links posted over and over on different boards ...

You'll also notice that the pirates are really fond of hacking content providers mostly, I assume, because there's easier access with trial offers and such. And since content provider sites are usually built to be easily accessed by other webmasters, some of those sites tend to get hacked alot. Once they get in ... bam ... tons of movies ...

Another trick the pirates use is playing with the file names. Too many webmasters name the full movie almost exactly the same as the preview vid. All the pirate has to do is play around with the file name and he's got the full movie. Also, too many webmasters will name the movies in progressive order like ... oralvideo1, oralvideo2, etc ... pretty easy to figure out and all the pirates on the board will jump in and help each other find the other file names ...

These people will do pretty much anything to avoid paying for porn ... LOL
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