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Old 06-26-2006, 06:39 PM   #1
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Tito Vs Shamrock, Who will win?

Quite the grudge between the two, Fight is on in a couple weeks or so, should be interesting. Predictions?
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:45 PM   #2
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Tito for the win
Tito owned shamrock in there last fight
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:47 PM   #3
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Tito should EASILY win .... BUT ... A win for Ken would mean a rubber match which = more $ for the UFC... So unless the UFC is 100% shade free... Tito may allow himslef to get Ko'd/Submitted because it would mean millions for the UFC for the 3rd fight
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Tito, he's gonna pound Shamrock into retirement.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:51 PM   #5
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Tito is going to own him. Ken is to old to fight that guy.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:53 PM   #6
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Tito will win.. it will be very sad if not, tito earned alot of respect as a coach, he dedicated himself for them kids.. unlike shamrock.. the old selfish, thinks he is all that, don't care about his fans prick.

I am praying tito hurts him bad.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:55 PM   #7
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Tito is a much more rounded fighter ... shamrocks only shot is to get a lucky punch.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:17 PM   #8
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i predict shamrock comes out swinging for the fences for first 30seconds...if tito can get through that...i think shamrock wants to kill him from seeing the show/commercials...

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Old 06-26-2006, 07:24 PM   #9
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Shamrock loses.

Beaten into a living death by Tito.

I guess only MMA fans will understand this.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:27 PM   #10
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The age difference is just too much. It certainly hasn't improved since their last fight. Shamrock was a step too slow last fight, this fight he'll probably be two steps too slow. Plus they are fighting at Tito's ideal weight, and anything but Ken's ideal weight. I see this going pretty much like the last one, as do the sports books and it seems most mma fans.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:28 PM   #11
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The age difference is just too much. It certainly hasn't improved since their last fight. Shamrock was a step too slow last fight, this fight he'll probably be two steps too slow. Plus they are fighting at Tito's ideal weight, and anything but Ken's ideal weight. I see this going pretty much like the last one, as do the sports books and it seems most mma fans.
What is Shamrock's ideal weight? He fought at 205 before.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:30 PM   #12
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:33 PM   #13
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I love this video Ortiz/Shamrock - https://youtube.com/watch?v=i06sv3-cZko
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:12 PM   #14
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The age difference is just too much. It certainly hasn't improved since their last fight. Shamrock was a step too slow last fight, this fight he'll probably be two steps too slow. Plus they are fighting at Tito's ideal weight, and anything but Ken's ideal weight. I see this going pretty much like the last one, as do the sports books and it seems most mma fans.
Didn't Shamrock fight with a torn ACL the first time? I've never torn my ACL but I'm pretty sure that would inhibit your movement. I think these guys hate each other so much that their emotions will probably get the best of them and it will come down to cardio.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:34 PM   #18
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Shamrock will kill himself if he loses, I will go for the underdog and bet on shamrock
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there are some funny confontation videos between the two. im going for tito, but should be a good fight to watch
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What a pointless fight...
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Shamrock loses.

Beaten into a living death by Tito.

I guess only MMA fans will understand this.


I agree, Tito will win easily
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I think Tito will lose if he takes Ken to lightly. Ken is and always will be a bad ass. As far as the UFC being "shade free" as pimpporn put it, I think you might have something...when Tito fought Chuck the Iceman last time it sure looked kinda staged towards the end when Tito ate all those punches and did not answer back!

I think it would be cool to see Ken win in which I bet he would announce his retirement right there. It will be a great fight no matter who wins I'm sure and the Camaro's just add fuel to the fire - insult to injury!

I'm gonna have to go with Ken on this one even though I'm sure I'm in the minority.
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Tito will elbow him till ref stoppage
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Tito will easily dominate him again.
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MGM Grand just gave me 6 tickets, should be a good fight to watch... Also looking forward to Sylvia vs Arlovski rematch.
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time for shamrock to retire, its ashame they get old the mind is willing but the body isnt.
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Ken doesn't get a lot of respect. He doesn't suck. As long as he doesn't train with the same guys and doesn't have any injuries he might do pretty good... and damn he's really gotta work on his ground defence.
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why would u think UFC could possbly be fixed? r these guys that crazy that they would take that kind of punishment to lose....just to have rematch???
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Tito is too much of a dick--too disrespectful to the people who paved the way for him,i was so glad when chucky kicked his fucking ass!
Ken,if you have one more in ya.....nows the time!
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You know, I used to think Tito was a dick too but, after watching him on the Ultimate Fighter series, I gained a whole new level of respect for him and I lost a lot for Ken.

Tito should easily win this fight. Ken needs to give it up. He isn't all that anymore. At least Randy knew when it was time to step out of the octogan.
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Tito is too much of a dick--too disrespectful to the people who paved the way for him,i was so glad when chucky kicked his fucking ass!
Ken,if you have one more in ya.....nows the time!
I guess you missed TUF 3.
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I like both fighters and don't care who wins, so long as it's a good fight. It'd be a lot more exciting if Shamrock won though
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He was 230ish for his last Pride fight where he gassed and threw in the towel.
He was also 230ish for every fight he's won and done well in. He also did very well in the fight you are referencing until he started having heart palpitations and was worried he was having a heart attack.

His natural fighting weight is anywhere from 225 up to 240. He has to cut severely to get to 205, its a well known fact.
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He was also 230ish for every fight he's won and done well in. He also did very well in the fight you are referencing until he started having heart palpitations and was worried he was having a heart attack.

His natural fighting weight is anywhere from 225 up to 240. He has to cut severely to get to 205, its a well known fact.
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Oh yeah, I can see how he did well at 235 with those guys. LOL
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Yes i did but one of my buds has all the dvd's etc....I'll catch up
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Your views on Tito will change dramatically!
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