"Summer Slowdown": Fact or fantasy? - GoFuckYourself.com

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 03:41 AM

Just curious how sales are in general for everyone.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 03:50 AM

imho I think it's time we started taking a serious look at prices.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 06-26-2006, 03:53 AM

I think price is one factor for some sites.

I also think maybe surfers are craving something different, are they sick of whats on offer to them now ?

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Batts

I also think maybe surfers are craving something different, are they sick of whats on offer to them now ?

I agree. We need more "teen" content. Theres a SERIOUS shortage of vapid looking 20 year old crackheads. I think that needs to be addressed.

Matt_WildCash · 06-26-2006, 03:58 AM

We just had near on our best day ever yesterday, 1/480 conversions average across all affilates (first page hits), sales are rocking right now. The logic behind the summer slowdown sounds right, people outside in the sun instead of inside wacking off to porn. The summer slowdown gets blamed for everything though, when its very difficult to pin point when you can see its effects. (if any)

I can tell you that i've personally seen the effects of longweekends in the USA and sales dropping 20+% on those days thanks to the people going away on the long weekends.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

We just had near on our best day ever yesterday, 1/480 conversions average across all affilates (first page hits), sales are rocking right now. The logic behind the summer slowdown sounds right, people outside in the sun instead of inside wacking off to porn. The summer slowdown gets blamed for everything though, when its very difficult to pin point when you can see its effects. (if any)

I can tell you that i've personally seen the effects of longweekends in the USA and sales dropping 20+% on those days thanks to the people going away on the long weekends.

I have one sponsor that normally does VERY well. Just got 0:4000 on JOIN PAGE hits.

Theres another BIG program that I got like 0:17000 with last week.

godisdead · 06-26-2006, 04:08 AM

I think there are two reasons for a "summer-hole":

1) People are outside at the beach having a good time and therefore just aren't online that often and that long. I mean, if the weather's fine, I'd rather be outside.

2) "Competition"

When it's hot outside, it means that hot women (who have been working for their bikini look since last autumn) will be walking around half naked, sucking on ice cream cones. They will put sun lotions and oil all over their bodies etc.

I guess this causes many guys to no longer need that much porn as it's already available in real life.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 04:10 AM

I'm seriously not spamming, but Epic is doing just dandy. Wish all of them were.

biftek · 06-26-2006, 04:29 AM

i thinks its fiction , while it is true that summer might cause a bit of a disruption , but the percentage that it would cause would hardly be noticable

some factors to consider are price, with new sites getting released all the time competition is getting alot more , then there is marketing is the marketing technique getting old , need to branch out find more target groups and advertising avenues

Big John · 06-26-2006, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by biftek

i thinks its fiction , while it is true that summer might cause a bit of a disruption , but the percentage that it would cause would hardly be noticable

some factors to consider are price, with new sites getting released all the time competition is getting alot more , then there is marketing is the marketing technique getting old , need to branch out find more target groups and advertising avenues

Of course it's not fiction. Anybody who's been in this business 5 years+ with a STEADY flow of traffic will have seen a small slowdown each year simply because people are either out in the nice weather, on holiday or a little skint from having blown it all on the holiday.

However, notice the part where I said 'small' slowdown. It isn't such a big thing and also bear in mind summer hasn't really started until all the kids are out of school as that's when the holidays really start to hit.

But then lots of things during the year can effect sales a little. Anyone with any business sense both knows that and to an extent ignore it. All businesses have peaks and troughs in sales and know to only compare like for like (ie the same period the previos year) to get a true indication of performance.

ADL Colin · 06-26-2006, 04:45 AM

Based on ten years of observation and "interviews" I think that overall there is a summer slowdown. Though I think some of us don't see it because we are always growing. When there is a business recession it makes it harder to grow but some companies do grow. When there are seasonal effects in any business it is like rowing against the current but with enough determination you can still beat the salmon.

MikeFold published some personal data to this effect about 3 years back. To my recollection, he showed a peak in March and then a return to stronger growth in the second half of the summer.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Of course it's not fiction. Anybody who's been in this business 5 years+ with a STEADY flow of traffic will have seen a small slowdown each year simply because people are either out in the nice weather, on holiday or a little skint from having blown it all on the holiday.

However, notice the part where I said 'small' slowdown. It isn't such a big thing and also bear in mind summer hasn't really started until all the kids are out of school as that's when the holidays really start to hit.

But then lots of things during the year can effect sales a little. Anyone with any business sense both knows that and to an extent ignore it. All businesses have peaks and troughs in sales and know to only compare like for like (ie the same period the previos year) to get a true indication of performance.

Makes sense to me.

Mr.Fiction · 06-26-2006, 05:33 AM

Every year a few people claim there is no summer slowdown even though everyone knows there is.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Every year a few people claim there is no summer slowdown even though everyone knows there is.

Yep.

I'm telling you, it's fucking PAINFUL.

Jensen · 06-26-2006, 05:36 AM

I spend more time outdoors during the summer and so do everyone I know.. expected a real dump in sales during june due to the world cup and summer, but hasn't been that bad actually

fl_prn_str · 06-26-2006, 05:42 AM

Fact.....but the question really is that it happens every summer like clockwork......and why people don?t factor this into their average basic economics...like if you lived in Florida and your average daily electric cost going up during summer due to most people using their air conditioning.

Bansheelinks · 06-26-2006, 05:43 AM

....plust this year in summer its the World Cup

xxxfeetxxx · 06-26-2006, 05:43 AM

My sales show peaks and troughs but over the course of a month don't seem to show very much variation.
Obviously, people go on holiday and so don't tend to have access to a computer to sign up for porn. On the other hand, seeing all the hot flesh on show, but not necessarily available, might be the best kind of tease to get them to sign up to a porn site when they get back home.

Dirty Dane · 06-26-2006, 05:45 AM

If sales are down, its more a webmaster slowdown than surfer slowdown, I think

RCW · 06-26-2006, 08:48 AM

It's a fact...summer slows down...
Not even regulars are doing the same as one month before. June and July are worst month as far as I know. In August things are getting better.

cranki · 06-26-2006, 08:52 AM

It's a fact. Good weather = less internet usage = less pornsite visits = less sales.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RCW

It's a fact...summer slows down...
Not even regulars are doing the same as one month before. June and July are worst month as far as I know. In August things are getting better.

So you're saying even rebills taper off during the summer?

RogerV · 06-26-2006, 08:56 AM

I think pre 2000 there was a slump during the summer but now its pretty steady. Savvy surfers not as many newbies.

pussyluver · 06-26-2006, 08:57 AM

Some sponsors are showing a slow down, but overall this will prolly be the best month all year.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Some sponsors are showing a slow down, but overall this will prolly be the best month all year.

Dude, could you send me some of the crack you're smoking? It's obviously better than my stash.

Tom_PM · 06-26-2006, 09:02 AM

I had a record week last week, and a record day yesterday.

marec · 06-26-2006, 09:02 AM

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V_RocKs · 06-26-2006, 09:03 AM

Wow... Yesterday 1:800 overall... Various sources of traffic...
Today - 0:3000 so far...

Must be a stressful Monday...

dynastoned · 06-26-2006, 09:06 AM

may was my best month ever. this month is equally good. i hope i don't catch the summer slowdown.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 09:06 AM

Slam me if you want. I'm used to it.

My theory is this:

The BEST months for sales are the ones with major "religious" or "family" Holidays.

I.E. Christmas. Thanksgiving.

I.E. fucking WINTER and FALL.

I suppose I could be wrong, I doubt it though since I'm a fucking genius. LOL

Major (Tom) · 06-26-2006, 09:16 AM

This question can only be asked of programs 1.5 years or older. when you are starting out with a new program the growth curve is much higher. When you get to a certain # you level off and the graph still increases but its more of a incline than a vertical climb. So everyone who's saying its their best month ever, you need to own a program that has reasonable exposure, and has been around for more than 1 year before you can validly comment on summer slowdown.
do i believe in summer slowdown? yes. Is it a major slowdown? no. it's more of just a slow increase in monthly volume as opposed to 15-20k monthly increases.

Duke

MrCain · 06-26-2006, 10:27 AM

It's a fact.

jollyperv · 06-26-2006, 11:04 AM

The processors invented summer slowdown to scrub the fuck out of everyone in order to get back in line with visa.

jimthefiend · 06-26-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

The processors invented summer slowdown to scrub the fuck out of everyone in order to get back in line with visa.

I'll have nightmares tonight. Thanks.

Big John · 06-26-2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyperv

The processors invented summer slowdown to scrub the fuck out of everyone in order to get back in line with visa.

Of course that's the other explaination some like, especially considering how much difference there is between some programs in the summer. Something has to pay for their holiday some say but surely that's just paranoia?

I'm a sig whore · 06-26-2006, 11:16 AM

seems to be fucking true for me.

V_RocKs · 06-26-2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Slam me if you want. I'm used to it.

My theory is this:

The BEST months for sales are the ones with major "religious" or "family" Holidays.

I.E. Christmas. Thanksgiving.

I.E. fucking WINTER and FALL.

I suppose I could be wrong, I doubt it though since I'm a fucking genius. LOL

Easter was one of my largest sales days of the year... Christmas also...

will76 · 06-26-2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big John

Of course it's not fiction. Anybody who's been in this business 5 years+ with a STEADY flow of traffic will have seen a small slowdown each year simply because people are either out in the nice weather, on holiday or a little skint from having blown it all on the holiday.

However, notice the part where I said 'small' slowdown. It isn't such a big thing and also bear in mind summer hasn't really started until all the kids are out of school as that's when the holidays really start to hit.

But then lots of things during the year can effect sales a little. Anyone with any business sense both knows that and to an extent ignore it. All businesses have peaks and troughs in sales and know to only compare like for like (ie the same period the previos year) to get a true indication of performance.

7+ years in the business. 5+ years of sending in over 10K joins a year.

There is not such thing as a summer slow down.

Believe what you want to believe.

06-26-2006, 03:41 AM	#1
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	"Summer Slowdown": Fact or fantasy? Just curious how sales are in general for everyone.

06-26-2006, 03:58 AM	#5
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	We just had near on our best day ever yesterday, 1/480 conversions average across all affilates (first page hits), sales are rocking right now. The logic behind the summer slowdown sounds right, people outside in the sun instead of inside wacking off to porn. The summer slowdown gets blamed for everything though, when its very difficult to pin point when you can see its effects. (if any) I can tell you that i've personally seen the effects of longweekends in the USA and sales dropping 20+% on those days thanks to the people going away on the long weekends. __________________ Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

06-26-2006, 04:08 AM	#7
godisdead Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,213	People are outside more often plus "competition" I think there are two reasons for a "summer-hole": 1) People are outside at the beach having a good time and therefore just aren't online that often and that long. I mean, if the weather's fine, I'd rather be outside. 2) "Competition" When it's hot outside, it means that hot women (who have been working for their bikini look since last autumn) will be walking around half naked, sucking on ice cream cones. They will put sun lotions and oil all over their bodies etc. I guess this causes many guys to no longer need that much porn as it's already available in real life.

06-26-2006, 04:45 AM	#11
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Based on ten years of observation and "interviews" I think that overall there is a summer slowdown. Though I think some of us don't see it because we are always growing. When there is a business recession it makes it harder to grow but some companies do grow. When there are seasonal effects in any business it is like rowing against the current but with enough determination you can still beat the salmon. MikeFold published some personal data to this effect about 3 years back. To my recollection, he showed a peak in March and then a return to stronger growth in the second half of the summer. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

06-26-2006, 05:33 AM	#13
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Every year a few people claim there is no summer slowdown even though everyone knows there is. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

06-26-2006, 03:50 AM	#2
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	imho I think it's time we started taking a serious look at prices.

06-26-2006, 03:53 AM	#3
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	I think price is one factor for some sites. I also think maybe surfers are craving something different, are they sick of whats on offer to them now ?

06-26-2006, 04:10 AM	#8
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	I'm seriously not spamming, but Epic is doing just dandy. Wish all of them were.

06-26-2006, 04:29 AM	#9
biftek So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,030	i thinks its fiction , while it is true that summer might cause a bit of a disruption , but the percentage that it would cause would hardly be noticable some factors to consider are price, with new sites getting released all the time competition is getting alot more , then there is marketing is the marketing technique getting old , need to branch out find more target groups and advertising avenues

06-26-2006, 05:36 AM	#15
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	I spend more time outdoors during the summer and so do everyone I know.. expected a real dump in sales during june due to the world cup and summer, but hasn't been that bad actually

06-26-2006, 05:42 AM	#16
fl_prn_str Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,736	Fact.....but the question really is that it happens every summer like clockwork......and why people don?t factor this into their average basic economics...like if you lived in Florida and your average daily electric cost going up during summer due to most people using their air conditioning.

06-26-2006, 05:43 AM	#17
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	....plust this year in summer its the World Cup

06-26-2006, 05:43 AM	#18
xxxfeetxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,218	My sales show peaks and troughs but over the course of a month don't seem to show very much variation. Obviously, people go on holiday and so don't tend to have access to a computer to sign up for porn. On the other hand, seeing all the hot flesh on show, but not necessarily available, might be the best kind of tease to get them to sign up to a porn site when they get back home. __________________ Chicks In Socks has the hottest sock fetish content. Earn 50% of sign-ups with our webmaster affilate program. Featuring Martina Warren, 2005 Penthouse Pet of the Year. icq:283-645-282 email:webmaster at xxxfeetxxx dot com

06-26-2006, 05:45 AM	#19
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	If sales are down, its more a webmaster slowdown than surfer slowdown, I think

06-26-2006, 08:48 AM	#20
RCW Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 27	It's a fact...summer slows down... Not even regulars are doing the same as one month before. June and July are worst month as far as I know. In August things are getting better. __________________ http://www.royalcams.net ICQ: 293 671 381

06-26-2006, 08:52 AM	#21
cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	It's a fact. Good weather = less internet usage = less pornsite visits = less sales.

06-26-2006, 08:56 AM	#23
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	I think pre 2000 there was a slump during the summer but now its pretty steady. Savvy surfers not as many newbies.

06-26-2006, 08:57 AM	#24
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Some sponsors are showing a slow down, but overall this will prolly be the best month all year.

06-26-2006, 09:02 AM	#26
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06-26-2006, 09:03 AM	#28
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Wow... Yesterday 1:800 overall... Various sources of traffic... Today - 0:3000 so far... Must be a stressful Monday...

06-26-2006, 09:06 AM	#29
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	may was my best month ever. this month is equally good. i hope i don't catch the summer slowdown.

06-26-2006, 09:16 AM	#31
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,697	This question can only be asked of programs 1.5 years or older. when you are starting out with a new program the growth curve is much higher. When you get to a certain # you level off and the graph still increases but its more of a incline than a vertical climb. So everyone who's saying its their best month ever, you need to own a program that has reasonable exposure, and has been around for more than 1 year before you can validly comment on summer slowdown. do i believe in summer slowdown? yes. Is it a major slowdown? no. it's more of just a slow increase in monthly volume as opposed to 15-20k monthly increases. Duke __________________ Dynamo is GAY

06-26-2006, 10:27 AM	#32
MrCain Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,332	It's a fact. __________________ Sigmund

06-26-2006, 11:04 AM	#33
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	The processors invented summer slowdown to scrub the fuck out of everyone in order to get back in line with visa.

06-26-2006, 11:16 AM	#36
I'm a sig whore So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Daytona Fucking Beach Posts: 1,399	seems to be fucking true for me.