Phantom Frog VS. Strongboxxx - Feedback Anyone? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jake · 06-20-2006, 04:50 PM

Anyone know much about these 2 products? Is either more effective or have a better feature set than the other? I like the way Phantom Frog uses geo IP tracking to monitor/block abused accounts. Seems like that would be very effective. If anyone knows much about these 2 products your feedback would be appreciated!

seeric · 06-20-2006, 04:52 PM

i love strongboxxx man. we've had it installed now for about 4 months. its on the job and does its job well.

Anna_O · 06-20-2006, 04:58 PM

Only tried strongboxxx, and it rocks

Jake · 06-20-2006, 05:18 PM

bump....bump

bigdog · 06-20-2006, 05:19 PM

never heard of phantom frog

Jake · 06-20-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

never heard of phantom frog

Phantom Frog. Neither had I until today but it looks like a good option. Was hoping to get some feedback on it before contacting the vendor.

RogerV · 06-20-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i love strongboxxx man. we've had it installed now for about 4 months. its on the job and does its job well.

Same here we use Strongboxxx and it cut the free passwords down alot. works great

Jace · 06-20-2006, 05:52 PM

strongboxxx, there is NO question

I had it installed in March and have not touched it or worried about a stolen password since

Shoehorn! · 06-20-2006, 06:02 PM

Strongbox kicks ass and Ray is great. They get my vote.

Jake · 06-20-2006, 06:45 PM

Looks like Strongboxxx has some pretty solid testimonials here. Anyone using Phantom Frog?

Jake · 06-21-2006, 07:57 AM

So nobody uses Phantom Frog?

HushMoney · 06-21-2006, 08:11 AM

Go with the tried and true. Ray and Strongbox are the best!!!

The Ghost · 06-21-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake

So nobody uses Phantom Frog?

I hadn't heard for http://phantomfrog.com until this thread. I use Sparta and everything is great so far.

FelixFlow · 06-21-2006, 08:40 AM

hmmmm, that "phantom frog' looks interesting....anyone tried it?

its true, that with strongbox users can share and "fly under the radar"

gooddomains · 06-21-2006, 08:50 AM

interesting, never heard of phantom frog before

chase · 06-21-2006, 09:02 AM

I believe Adam and Alysha use it..there have been several discussions about it, all very positive, over on the AM board, and the people who run PF post there occassionally, too.

_seems lots of amateurs, to whom every dollar usually counts, use it.

justsexxx · 06-21-2006, 09:18 AM

Don't know that frog one...Looks good, but not sure IF it's good

I use sparta myself..

justsexxx · 06-21-2006, 09:20 AM

Once password abuse has been detected, Phantom Frog immediatly issues a new password. (Premium Plan)

Note that the account is not blocked.
The valid member may use the new password but all others are locked out

That is a good feature in the FROG one...

Why · 06-21-2006, 10:20 AM

strongbox is not everything some not so technically minded might think it is. as stated above, there are still ways to work around it.

on the frog subject i dont know anything about the product.

Jake · 06-21-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Once password abuse has been detected, Phantom Frog immediatly issues a new password. (Premium Plan)

Note that the account is not blocked.
The valid member may use the new password but all others are locked out

That is a good feature in the FROG one...

It seems to have some "customer support" features not available with StrongBoxxx however since I haven't used either product I'm not sure that's the case. Still hoping to hear from someone who is actually using Phantom Frog.

chase · 06-21-2006, 11:27 AM

Jake, what's your icq, I want to pass something on I can't post here. Or just hit me up.

chase · 06-21-2006, 11:31 AM

Never mind, I found it

Jake · 06-21-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chase

Jake, what's your icq, I want to pass something on I can't post here. Or just hit me up.

Just messaged you.

Jake · 06-21-2006, 02:00 PM

Bumping again!

ExtremeBank_Adam · 08-19-2006, 08:17 PM

We have been with Phantom Frog for some time now, and if you want to stop the password trading at the very first sign of abuse, then I would strongly suggest you use them.

Most other systems use an IP threshold, so if that threshold is 10 IPs, and the first 9 people each download 5 gigs, then you just lost 45 gigs before your system shuts it down.

Phantom Frog watches where each user logs in from and tracks it. So, if a user logs in from New York at 10 AM EST, then from Los Angeles at 11 AM EST, it knows a person can't travel that fast and blocks the login. It doesn't need to wait for 5, 10, 20 IPs to access before it's shut down.

And, as a bonus, you don't even need do anything to get your REAL member their new password. The Frog uses a password lookup system that works with CCBill and Netbilling (maybe others) and will automatically issue the real member a new password without you having to do it manually.

Does any other password system do that?

Jace · 08-19-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam

The Frog uses a password lookup system that works with CCBill and Netbilling (maybe others) and will automatically issue the real member a new password without you having to do it manually.

what if you don't use ccbill or netbilling?

ExtremeBank_Adam · 08-19-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

what if you don't use ccbill or netbilling?

Like I said, "CCBill and Netbilling (maybe others)". I don't use anything else, so I don't know. I'm sure contacting them will get you an answer, though.

Jace · 08-19-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam

Like I said, "CCBill and Netbilling (maybe others)". I don't use anything else, so I don't know. I'm sure contacting them will get you an answer, though.

ah, here we go, from their site

CCBill, Paycom, NetBilling clients and NATS

hope they expand that soon

avalanche · 08-21-2006, 03:12 PM

Integration with MPA3 is complete now as well...

NETbilling · 08-21-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

what if you don't use ccbill or netbilling?

Then it may be time to change to Netbilling!

Mitch

NETbilling · 08-21-2006, 10:17 PM

Hi Jake, Adam and Alyshia!

Mitch

06-20-2006, 04:50 PM	#1
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Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	Looks like Strongboxxx has some pretty solid testimonials here. Anyone using Phantom Frog? __________________

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	never heard of phantom frog

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	strongboxxx, there is NO question I had it installed in March and have not touched it or worried about a stolen password since

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gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	interesting, never heard of phantom frog before

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chase Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,019	I believe Adam and Alysha use it..there have been several discussions about it, all very positive, over on the AM board, and the people who run PF post there occassionally, too. _seems lots of amateurs, to whom every dollar usually counts, use it. __________________ Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!

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justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Don't know that frog one...Looks good, but not sure IF it's good I use sparta myself.. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

06-21-2006, 09:20 AM	#18
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Once password abuse has been detected, Phantom Frog immediatly issues a new password. (Premium Plan) Note that the account is not blocked. The valid member may use the new password but all others are locked out That is a good feature in the FROG one... __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	strongbox is not everything some not so technically minded might think it is. as stated above, there are still ways to work around it. on the frog subject i dont know anything about the product.

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ExtremeBank_Adam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,671	We have been with Phantom Frog for some time now, and if you want to stop the password trading at the very first sign of abuse, then I would strongly suggest you use them. Most other systems use an IP threshold, so if that threshold is 10 IPs, and the first 9 people each download 5 gigs, then you just lost 45 gigs before your system shuts it down. Phantom Frog watches where each user logs in from and tracks it. So, if a user logs in from New York at 10 AM EST, then from Los Angeles at 11 AM EST, it knows a person can't travel that fast and blocks the login. It doesn't need to wait for 5, 10, 20 IPs to access before it's shut down. And, as a bonus, you don't even need do anything to get your REAL member their new password. The Frog uses a password lookup system that works with CCBill and Netbilling (maybe others) and will automatically issue the real member a new password without you having to do it manually. Does any other password system do that? __________________ ExtremeBank.com, the EXTREME program for the Pornicate.com Network of sites: Naughty Alysha, Roxy Raye, Buddha Bang, Angie Noir, Fisting Sex, Extreme Ty & many more. Email: adam [at] extremebank.com \| ICQ: 331-797-412

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