HD revolution so what do you guys encode web videos with?? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ann-Angelcom · 06-20-2006, 03:05 AM

I'm seeing alot of sites now a days claiming to have HD video.
I guess it's a good selling point, but it sure is false advertising. I can see alot of people getting pissed when they go to a site to see something pop out at the in HD format only to realize that it's still the same crap shot in wide screen.

Maybe I'm wrong here.

Either way, I am curious what you guys use to encode videos for web. Is it Divx? Is it Xvid? Which do you like better? How can one achieve that HD quality without saying "fuck you" to your bandwidth?

I'm able to get a decent looking movie using Divx down to about 30-40MB for a 7 minute clip (average)

For all you HD guys...what are your files averaging in size and length?

I'm waiting to receive my HD sony cam via UPS any day now, so I'm excited to really put this technology to good use. I have final cut pro HD, but the output for web files I tried making with it always come out choppy or too large. SO I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys have to say!

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-20-2006, 03:23 AM

a few use this model it is the most popular and easy to use

some others use a HD cam

notabook · 06-20-2006, 03:43 AM

Most people today seem to stick with WMV since everybody and their mothers can view that format.

As for getting HD, you are absolutely right, most people who advertise having it simply don't. True HD over the internet is a bitch on hard drive space needed and bandwidth required. With the H.264 codec (which is deliciously amazing), you can get HD-quality vids (1280x720) at around 2.75GB or so per hour, or roughly 46MB per minute. Granted, this isn't "true" HD quality, but it's pretty comparable with what your eyes are going to be seeing. You'll see some artifacts (rarely) but this is as close as you can get with internet/bandwidth limitations on the internet.

Oh... about the H.264 codec. I've been encoding video now for over a decade and that codec is awesome, just plain awesome. The only thing that sucks about it is it is one of the slowest encoding processing I have *EVER* dealt with in my entire life. It's speed is ridiculously slow, more than DOUBLE the time it would take to encode a video to DivX or XviD.

Theo · 06-20-2006, 08:38 AM

Here's a sample trailer: http://www.thespermlover.com/Trailer1.wmv

Encoding is not easy and may take months of experimenting to find out what is suitable for your needs and how to do it.

gooddomains · 06-20-2006, 08:41 AM

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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-20-2006, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Here's a sample trailer: http://www.thespermlover.com/Trailer1.wmv

Encoding is not easy and may take months of experimenting to find out what is suitable for your needs and how to do it.

wow I never watched one of those HD trailers that really is high qaulity HD

Ann-Angelcom · 06-20-2006, 10:50 AM

Soul Rebel, yea, that video does look great.

I agree with what you say, but that is kind of the point of this thread. So that guys who may have figured out a pretty good encoding set up can share with the rest.

So, that said, for that 34sec clip you have there. How big is the total file size and what did you use to encode it along with what settings? If you don't mind sharing of course

Also, to add, this thread isn't really about cams. We all pretty much know that you NEED and HD cam to shoot HD

http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/...on=expand,7224

Try to keep the discussion to ENCODING part of the process.

DutchTeenCash · 06-20-2006, 10:51 AM

hey there dude

cherrycaprice has HD, its divx coded otherwise files are huge. 50-60 meg for 5 mins 1500kpbs stereo sound and widescreen as well.

ElvisManson · 06-20-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Here's a sample trailer: http://www.thespermlover.com/Trailer1.wmv

Encoding is not easy and may take months of experimenting to find out what is suitable for your needs and how to do it.

you are absolutely 100% right about that.

there are so many different variables that all have to be set up in the right order.

I am willing to help people figure it out for themselves but I won't tell anyone how to do it.

Ann-Angelcom · 06-20-2006, 04:25 PM

hey thinkx! How's things

MSG me when you get on, haven't talked to you in a while.

Otherwise, yea Divx seems to be a good option for now since that is what I have been using as well. However, I was wondering if there is anything better. I don't care about speed as far as encoding process, but I do care about quality.

I think this thread can help alot of people who are looking to make the jump to HDlike material.

Theo · 06-20-2006, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Soul Rebel, yea, that video does look great.

I agree with what you say, but that is kind of the point of this thread. So that guys who may have figured out a pretty good encoding set up can share with the rest.

So, that said, for that 34sec clip you have there. How big is the total file size and what did you use to encode it along with what settings? If you don't mind sharing of course

Also, to add, this thread isn't really about cams. We all pretty much know that you NEED and HD cam to shoot HD

http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/...on=expand,7224

Try to keep the discussion to ENCODING part of the process.

Filesize is 4.1mb from what i see. We have an encoding team that deals with it and I don't have personal technical knowledge to answer you. I do know from time to time the results keep improving which means there's always decent margin for improvements.

06-20-2006, 03:05 AM	#1
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	HD revolution so what do you guys encode web videos with?? I'm seeing alot of sites now a days claiming to have HD video. I guess it's a good selling point, but it sure is false advertising. I can see alot of people getting pissed when they go to a site to see something pop out at the in HD format only to realize that it's still the same crap shot in wide screen. Maybe I'm wrong here. Either way, I am curious what you guys use to encode videos for web. Is it Divx? Is it Xvid? Which do you like better? How can one achieve that HD quality without saying "fuck you" to your bandwidth? I'm able to get a decent looking movie using Divx down to about 30-40MB for a 7 minute clip (average) For all you HD guys...what are your files averaging in size and length? I'm waiting to receive my HD sony cam via UPS any day now, so I'm excited to really put this technology to good use. I have final cut pro HD, but the output for web files I tried making with it always come out choppy or too large. SO I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys have to say! __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

06-20-2006, 03:43 AM	#3
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	Most people today seem to stick with WMV since everybody and their mothers can view that format. As for getting HD, you are absolutely right, most people who advertise having it simply don't. True HD over the internet is a bitch on hard drive space needed and bandwidth required. With the H.264 codec (which is deliciously amazing), you can get HD-quality vids (1280x720) at around 2.75GB or so per hour, or roughly 46MB per minute. Granted, this isn't "true" HD quality, but it's pretty comparable with what your eyes are going to be seeing. You'll see some artifacts (rarely) but this is as close as you can get with internet/bandwidth limitations on the internet. Oh... about the H.264 codec. I've been encoding video now for over a decade and that codec is awesome, just plain awesome. The only thing that sucks about it is it is one of the slowest encoding processing I have EVER dealt with in my entire life. It's speed is ridiculously slow, more than DOUBLE the time it would take to encode a video to DivX or XviD. __________________

06-20-2006, 10:50 AM	#7
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	Soul Rebel, yea, that video does look great. I agree with what you say, but that is kind of the point of this thread. So that guys who may have figured out a pretty good encoding set up can share with the rest. So, that said, for that 34sec clip you have there. How big is the total file size and what did you use to encode it along with what settings? If you don't mind sharing of course Also, to add, this thread isn't really about cams. We all pretty much know that you NEED and HD cam to shoot HD http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/...on=expand,7224 Try to keep the discussion to ENCODING part of the process. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

06-20-2006, 10:51 AM	#8
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	hey there dude cherrycaprice has HD, its divx coded otherwise files are huge. 50-60 meg for 5 mins 1500kpbs stereo sound and widescreen as well. __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

06-20-2006, 04:25 PM	#10
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	hey thinkx! How's things MSG me when you get on, haven't talked to you in a while. Otherwise, yea Divx seems to be a good option for now since that is what I have been using as well. However, I was wondering if there is anything better. I don't care about speed as far as encoding process, but I do care about quality. I think this thread can help alot of people who are looking to make the jump to HDlike material. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

06-20-2006, 03:23 AM	#2
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	a few use this model it is the most popular and easy to use some others use a HD cam

06-20-2006, 08:38 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Here's a sample trailer: http://www.thespermlover.com/Trailer1.wmv Encoding is not easy and may take months of experimenting to find out what is suitable for your needs and how to do it.

06-20-2006, 08:41 AM	#5
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