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Old 06-20-2006, 02:45 AM   #1
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Pentagon lists homosexuality as disorder

Pentagon lists homosexuality as disorder

WASHINGTON - A Pentagon document classifies homosexuality as a mental disorder, decades after mental health experts abandoned that position.

The document outlines retirement or other discharge policies for service members with physical disabilities, and in a section on defects lists homosexuality alongside mental retardation and personality disorders.

Critics said the reference underscores the Pentagon's failing policies on gays, and adds to a culture that has created uncertainty and insecurity around the treatment of homosexual service members, leading to anti-gay harassment.

Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Jeremy M. Martin said the policy document is under review.

The Pentagon has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.

The Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military, at the University of California at Santa Barbara, uncovered the document and pointed to it as further proof that the military deserves failing grades for its treatment of gays.

Nathaniel Frank, senior research fellow at the center, said, "The policy reflects the department's continued misunderstanding of homosexuality and makes it more difficult for gays and lesbians to access mental health services."

The document, called a Defense Department Instruction, was condemned by medical professionals, members of Congress and other experts, including the American Psychiatric Association.

"It is disappointing that certain Department of Defense instructions include homosexuality as a 'mental disorder' more than 30 years after the mental health community recognized that such a classification was a mistake," said Rep. Marty Meehan (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass.

Congress members noted that other Pentagon regulations dealing with mental health do not include homosexuality on any lists of psychological disorders. And in a letter to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Monday, nine lawmakers asked for a full review of all documents and policies to ensure they reflect that same standard.

"Based on scientific and medical evidence the APA declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973 ? a position shared by all other major health and mental health organizations based on their own review of the science," James H. Scully Jr., head of the psychiatric association, said in a letter to the Defense Department's top doctor earlier this month.

There were 726 military members discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy during the budget year that ended last Sept. 30. That marked the first year since 2001 that the total had increased. The number of discharges had declined each year since it peaked at 1,227 in 2001, and had fallen to 653 in 2004.

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""The Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military, at the University of California at Santa Barbara""

I'd be pissed if my taxes were paying for that center.
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Old 06-20-2006, 03:41 AM   #3
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1990 homosexuality was removed of list of international deieses, thats all you need to know.
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Homosexuality isn?t just a mental disorder, it?s a sin against God. Jesus didn?t get nailed to that mother fucking cross for people to be faggots, show some respect to the lord you assfucks.
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They can't have it both ways.. If I'm mentally retarded I want a check
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And because the Pentagon says that, it`s true?? WTF? They are not GOD.
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does anyone still belive in jebus anyways?
Only people that are mentally ill that rely on imaginary friends and bizaar rituals rather than face their own mortality.
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Homosexuality isn?t just a mental disorder, it?s a sin against God. Jesus didn?t get nailed to that mother fucking cross for people to be faggots, show some respect to the lord you assfucks.
You have GOT to be kidding me?


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They can't have it both ways.. If I'm mentally retarded I want a check
That is a GREAT idea! If I've got a mental disability, those bastards best start sendin me some goberment cheese!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes a very misoginist view


I think "homophobic" was the word you were looking for

Misogyny has very little to do with it
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I don't see why straight politicians are so concerned with the gays. What's the issue really? Who gives a fuck and why?
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Homosexuality isn?t just a mental disorder, it?s a sin against God. Jesus didn?t get nailed to that mother fucking cross for people to be faggots, show some respect to the lord you assfucks.
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That is a GREAT idea! If I've got a mental disability, those bastards best start sendin me some goberment cheese!!!!!!!!!!
i like your nickname -

"boy" - i.e. a male child
combined with...
"alley" - i.e. dark place with no one watching.

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i like your nickname -

"boy" - i.e. a male child
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"Boy" does not mean "male child" in common use, anymore than "girl" means a "female child" in common use.

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"boy" - i.e. a male child
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WTF!, you really think that ??
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"Boy" does not mean "male child" in common use, anymore than "girl" means a "female child" in common use.

Yes it does. An older male, in common use is a "guy", not a boy. I am not a boy, I am a guy.

Girls are girls. For some reason they don't have two separate names.
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Girls are girls. For some reason they don't have two separate names.
at one time at least the equivilent of boy/guy was girl/gal although I have not heard the term gal used in a long time
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Yes it does. An older male, in common use is a "guy", not a boy. I am not a boy, I am a guy.

Girls are girls. For some reason they don't have two separate names.


The words are "woman" and "women".

The term "boy" is used JUST as often in the gay world, and in exactly the same way, as "girl" is used in the straight world.
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homosexuality is a mental disorder period, don't know why people are in so much denial. We were made to fuck the opposite sex
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oh yes, like this so called jesus was the only one ever nailed to a cross. Fuck this whole religion bullshit. Wether a person is gay or not they all should have the same rights and freedoms. Of course, these religious fucking idiots want everyone to live their life according to their made up rules. Respect for the lord? LOL. I don't respect something that never existed.
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oh yes, like this so called jesus was the only one ever nailed to a cross. Fuck this whole religion bullshit. Wether a person is gay or not they all should have the same rights and freedoms. Of course, these religious fucking idiots want everyone to live their life according to their made up rules. Respect for the lord? LOL. I don't respect something that never existed.
PREACH ON SISTA PREACH ON! AMens!

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I mean fuck, I'm not gay, but I'm not gonna bash someone just because they prefer the same sex and they think differently than I do. When the fuck will people grown up? What the hell are people so scared of? "ban this, ban that, don't do this, don't so that, jesus wouldn't approve," bla bla bla! I repeat, GROW THE FUCK UP!
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I agree with this.

I have nothing agaisnt homosexuality, but the fact remains it's not normal in a biological sense
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And you know more about mental disorders than the Amercian Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, and about 2 dozen other professional medical organizations from around the world?

Idiot.
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The words are "woman" and "women".

The term "boy" is used JUST as often in the gay world, and in exactly the same way, as "girl" is used in the straight world.
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Yes, I'm sure boy is very common in the gay world. I was talking in general. Straight guys do not call themselves or refer to themselves as boys, ever. A boy is someone immature, weak, someone striving to become a man, etc.

Women is the plural of woman. Those are equivalent to men and man. That does not fit into the boy/guy equation. As somebody mentioned above, the female equivalent is girl/gal, but gal is very rarely used.
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I agree with this.

I have nothing agaisnt homosexuality, but the fact remains it's not normal in a biological sense
Virtually every species on this planet that's been studied in depth, has been found to have common instances of homosexual behavior. So in that sense, it sounds relatively "normal" to me in a biological sense?
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Virtually every species on this planet that's been studied in depth, has been found to have common instances of homosexual behavior. So in that sense, it sounds relatively "normal" to me in a biological sense?
I've always heard the opposite. I've heard the only other species with same gender sex is humans, aside from dolphins who are a very sexual animal to begin with and do it purely for pleasure.

Very few animals mate and "settle down" like humans. I'm not sure how you could even compare the two.
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the problem with people seeing it as "not normal" is the fact that all this shit is based on times when homosexuality was not much in the open so there were not many gay people "out of the closet". Who's to say that there were not 1000's of homosexuals in the 18th century? 17th, 16th etc.. Just not in the open about it so no one knew anything about homosexuality except the ones that were homosexuals? So no one can really know how normal or not it is. People just need to accept others for who they are and not judge them for their lifestyle. Funny thing is that many straight guys are obsessed with sticking their dicks in an asshole, but at the same time they make fun of gay men. Ya, ok, the straight guys are sticking in a woman's ass, but was that what your so called "god" considered "normal"? Or how about the loads of straight men obsessed with trannies? Also, how does it affect YOU if other men are gay?

I'll say it AGAIN.....

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I did hear something about mice turning homosexual when they become over populated in limited environments.

I don't know how much truth there is to that.
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so does this mean that homosexuals get the handicap plaquard and plates?

great there go my parking spots!!!
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the problem with people seeing it as "not normal" is the fact that all this shit is based on times when homosexuality was not much in the open so there were not many gay people "out of the closet". Who's to say that there were not 1000's of homosexuals in the 18th century? 17th, 16th etc.. Just not in the open about it so no one knew anything about homosexuality except the ones that were homosexuals? So no one can really know how normal or not it is. People just need to accept others for who they are and not judge them for their lifestyle. Funny thing is that many straight guys are obsessed with sticking their dicks in an asshole, but at the same time they make fun of gay men. Ya, ok, the straight guys are sticking in a woman's ass, but was that what your so called "god" considered "normal"? Or how about the loads of straight men obsessed with trannies? Also, how does it affect YOU if other men are gay?

I'll say it AGAIN.....

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Dude.. It's not normal by any means.

I'm not saying that it should be called a "disorder" or anything like that..

but it's definitely not a normal thing to be homosexual.
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I've always heard the opposite. I've heard the only other species with same gender sex is humans, aside from dolphins who are a very sexual animal to begin with and do it purely for pleasure.

Very few animals mate and "settle down" like humans. I'm not sure how you could even compare the two.
Here's a 768 page book that documents many many many examples in many many many different species from around the world:

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Just the way he wrote it... he was probably kidding
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I knew it! BoyAlley is a disorder.

Now what?
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Dude.. It's not normal by any means.

I'm not saying that it should be called a "disorder" or anything like that..

but it's definitely not a normal thing to be homosexual.
Look around, there is a whole ton of NOT normal things going on.

I bet being gay seems normal to gay people.
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:40 PM   #47
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The Pentagon has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.
Now you know how to get out of the army if the Draft ever returns lol
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:00 PM   #48
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Five bucks says that Bush is a closet homo.
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:08 PM   #49
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Five bucks says that Bush is a closet homo.
Nope
But I here Condi plays dress up with him when Laura isn't around.
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:13 PM   #50
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Homosexuality isn?t just a mental disorder, it?s a sin against God. Jesus didn?t get nailed to that mother fucking cross for people to be faggots, show some respect to the lord you assfucks.
There is no Jesus.
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