I am so torn on this issue except for Bubba. I thought he sounded like an ass right from the start. He even told her to shut up when she mentioned how big it was.

Brooke and her crew made a mistake by going in w/o Mayor. Honestly, the way she was saying no was real tough to figure out. She would shake her head no, or even say no, then follow it up with 'ok' then giggle or something. Mayor, knowing Brooke probably could have noticed that was her way of saying "get me out of this situation now, but i'm too scared to actually cause a scene so i'll go along with it".

So she goes along with it, probably torn up inside but with little support. I mean the support she did have (Mayor's wife) was helping get the dildo in at certain points. No wonder this girl left crying.

So I think Brooke's side was wrong for a) Mayor not being in the room, like posted many times, he should have just packed up and left instead of sitting outside waiting, b) Mayor's wife not stopping it, and c) Brooke not walking out.

Bubba's side was wrong for pushing the issue, telling Brooke to shut up, egging her on when he even noticed she had tears in her eyes. Even Howard Stern can recognize when a girl really doesn't want to do something.

I can't really put much blame on Melissa, although as a girl she probably should have recognized it as well and stopped it. Like I said though, Brooke was giving mixed signals, so it was probably confusing to both Melissa and Mayor's wife. Although, like I said above, the mixed signals were probably because she was torn up inside, extremely confused and uncomfortable and acted like a deer in headlights.

Anyway just my 2cents. The biggest fault I see is Bubba, but it was also a huge mistake for Mayor to go along with it while sitting outside. The rest (mixed signals, neither girl stopping it) I can understand because of the pressure put on by Bubba

How about offer a promotion to reverse the "take down Melissa Midwest links" and add them back. He offered to pay people to remove their links, he should offer to pay to add them back.

Mayor was emotional and defending what was "his". That's understandable but he crossed a line and needs to make real amends not half-assed apologies.

Melissa and/or Biggy...hit me up. I want to talk traffic with you.

I agree with you 100%, that's what I was thinking.

Bubba comes off as a toal shitstain with homoerotic desires. I felt for all 3 girls having to deal with that slug.

brooke was not forced to do any of those things.

i've seen more abuse than that before. weaksauce.

stupid drama

He already did that

I don't think Melissa had much choice in what she was doing either, throughout the vid you could see the crews hands on her back pushing her back in and stuff...She didn't say much...

That fucker bubba needs to learn no means no. It was obvious he was doing that for personal pleasure, his "Just a little bit more"'s and "take it for the fuckin team" told me that!

He didnt care about Brooke or Melissa, he just wanted to see some action not caring if anyone got hurt. When Brooke had trouble with the first one they should have called it off then rather than get that giant out! I mean who the hell could have taken that anyway?!

the only way something like that would be acceptable and legally acceptable is if they had established a safeword before hand and FILMED IT and had signed documents backing up a statement that no doesn't mean no and a specific safeword does mean no.

otherwise personally I would be inclined to consider that as RAPE - and follow though with criminal charges.

There could definitly be some serious trouble on this one ... I don't think Melissa wanted to harm her, performers do as they are told. But the people behind the scenes and the idea should have known better.

I understand your opinion is biased but that post and his PROMOTION to have Melissa's links removed are not even in the same ballpark. A retraction, yes. A one in the same reversal, not even close.

Yup, charging Melissa with rape isnt really fair.

I'm assuming she doesnt know brooke to well in a personal sense so how was she to know that she was being serious when she said no and then giggled and stuff afterwards. I know it's hard to decide what you would do unless you were in that situation..but that other girl there didnt do much to stop things either, Im assuming thats Mayors wife? Does she know Brooke well? IF, note the if please, she does then she should have said something.

Melissa was in a very hard position too..If anyone should be charged for rape then it should be bubba. Of course Melissa didnt HAVE to carry on but Brooke didnt HAVE to stay. She could have seriously said no, obviously bubba's show doesnt mean anything to anyone on here so what reputation would she tarnish?

Im not taking sides, trust me on this one. I just think that it was a very hard and akward situation for both girls involved and I feel sad that they had to be put through it. Bubba should have to suffer in some way or other. He was a ringleader in all this and should have action taken against him rather than biggy and Melissa.

Yup, charging Melissa with rape isnt really fair.

I'm assuming she doesnt know brooke to well in a personal sense so how was she to know that she was being serious when she said no and then giggled and stuff afterwards. I know it's hard to decide what you would do unless you were in that situation..but that other girl there didnt do much to stop things either, Im assuming thats Mayors wife? Does she know Brooke well? IF, note the if please, she does then she should have said something.

Melissa was in a very hard position too..If anyone should be charged for rape then it should be bubba. Of course Melissa didnt HAVE to carry on but Brooke didnt HAVE to stay. She could have seriously said no, obviously bubba's show doesnt mean anything to anyone on here so what reputation would she tarnish?

Im not taking sides, trust me on this one. I just think that it was a very hard and akward situation for both girls involved and I feel sad that they had to be put through it. Bubba should have to suffer in some way or other. He was a ringleader in all this and should have action taken against him rather than biggy and Melissa.

Fuck that. Melissa and Biggy both know how Mayor and Brooke feel about this and yet they have used the video as their latest update on their site. That is a truly classless piece of shit move to make and personally, I think anybody who decides to do business with Biggy and Melissa based on any of this is also a classless piece of shit.

As far as I am concerned, that video is a borderline gang rape caught on tape and Melissa, Biggy, and every guy in that room should be dealt with just like any other alleged rapist. Extreme? Possibly but so is violating a girl who was not strong enough to stand up for her rights beyond saying no and crying.

Biased... Ehhh not so much, after watching the video I can see that both parties had quite a bit of pressure to keep going. They are there to promote there sites, They have both been on the show before looking at the archives and everything went fine.. This is just a unfortunate event. :2 cents:

But for Mayor to run press for them after retracting his statement and posting that he wanted people to put links back up and even put more up is more then most people would do. Plus MM and Big dragging it out, I don't think that she needs anymore plugs. She has the video on her site and is making money from it. What more do you want?

The Girls need to Ass Rape Bubba with the Same Horse Cock of a strap on.....then everyone should be Happy :thumbsup

quoting to reiterate

Few things I want to say, then I'm out of here.

1) Mayor should stop saying he wasn't allowed in. He basically said "If I can't film, then what's the point?" Yeah, I know...you felt like this guy was a "friend". FINE, BUT QUIT SAYING YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED IN!!!

2) Mayor reacted harshly, but I think we can all understand where he's coming from. He was wrong for the way he handled it, I think everyone agrees with that. Bottom line is I don't think he achieved his goal of hurting MM business, so just drop it.

4) This jackass of a shock-jock did his job just as he was supposed to do. All of you saying "he didn't care about Melissa or Brooke"....fucking duh!! Did you really expect him to? We all know that most people think of pornstars as "just another slut" or "piece of meat". He is there for ratings, and I'am sure he got them.

5) THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT!! Sadly, Brooke was not confident enough to stand up for herself, say "fuck-off" and walk out. We always argue that this is a business of consenting adults. If Brooke is not able to say "this is my body, and I'm not doing that", then maybe she should not be in this business. It makes people further question if we are REALLY consenting adults. Maybe somebody should have done something different, but they didn't. The only person in control of Brooke and responsible for Brooke is Brooke....she is a grown woman.

I think the whole situation is very, very sad. Brooke obviously felt violated, although it is really tough to blame anybody. I hope that she can get past this. I also hope that it helps her to become a little more controlling of her own life.

What does no mean to you? In a "controlled" environment, why would she have to stand up for anything? She made it clear didn't anything else to take place.

i thought sex was supposed to be fun?

I'm so confused now... the guys at mayors are good people and I can see why they are pissed off. My main complaint would be that they werent allowed in the room to protect their model.

I'll pay $66 per join to anybody who sends traffic to my sites even if you dont pull melissa's links ;-)

Biggy wasn't even there, why would he be considered an alleged rapist?
Mayor's representative, his own wife, was there though, she was giggling throughout the incident and was helping push the dildo inside poor Brooke.

I missed all the drama ... I got a question : Was brooke seriously hurt ? Or it was just emotional ?

those with a crush on one girl VS. those with a crush on another girl.

who can prove their puppy love more?

No shit she was pretty happy and having fun for someone getting raped ?

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

She was trying to limit the damage and assist Brooke within her limitations. As for Biggy...I stand corrected. But he's still an asshole for posting that video on the site.

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

Yea, I think people are stretching a bit when they say rape considering how much she giggled and said 'ok i'll try'.

It sounded similar to a girl pressured into trying anal sex for the first time with her bf or husband. No.. stop.. ok, try now... ouch.. stop.. . ok try again... stop it hurts... ok one more time... ouch try your finger first...

Is that rape?

I'm playing devil's advocate btw, because I definitely feel for Brooke. I think she was pressured into doing something she really didn't want to do, but I wouldn't label it rape. Just a real suck experience which i'll be shocked if it doesn't drive her from the porn biz entirely.

GFY is going nuts. Posted that shit 3 times.

If she was not strong enough to stand up for herself why was Mayor not there to protect her? Why did his wife not step in? I'm not saying what happened to her is right but what Mayor did is completely wrong and classless.

As far as doing business with them over this...absolutely. I feel they were wronged and am of the mind to support them. I could give two shits what YOU feel that makes me.

They were allowed in...they weren't allowed to film.

Haven't you read every word of the 30 threads on the subject, Hoop? ;)

This is from Melissa Midwest site

"June 16- Well hi everyone! I am back from Florida and the Tropical Storm/Hurricane didn't get me lol! As all of you know I was there doing the Bubba the Love Sponge Show live on Sirius Satellite Radio. The show itself went really great, everyone was super nice to me and I even got to do some new things and for me there are not many of those left (sexually). One of those was using a strap on dildo on another girl. Don't worry though I brought my best part time guy Luke down to document everything. I have tons of pictures and video of the entire 56 minutes I was on the air with everything that happen. If you have been waiting to sign up for my site, now is the time! Trust me this update won't disappoint anyone. Special thanks to Bubba for making my trip so fun and for talking to Howard Stern about getting me on his show soon! Don?t forget to join me in Waverly for the big car show this Sat. from 12pm-6pm. I will be taking pictures with everyone?s cars and have all my fun Melissa Midwest stuff! Here is the link to all the info on the car show!. Don't forget my Virtual 3-D Sex Game is free for signing up for my site. Also, check out my STORE section and my surfer chat forum MelissaChat.com."

Not ONCE she mentions Brookes name... Hell she even refers to her as the other girl.

Melissa Midwest as no fucking class at all :321GFY

Oh and the shoot, very fucking amateur and un organized... Oh and don't forget she brought her BEST part time Luke :1orglaugh

That deserved to be posted 3 times.

Mayor was not allowed in the studio and he was doing the professional thing and allowing them to run their show their way. His wife DID make multiple attempts to step in and was laughed at and told to shut up so she did the next best thing and that was to try to help her friend through it.

Aaron...Mayor WAS allowed in, his cameras weren't. He already admitted that himself. He said if he wasn't able to shoot, what was the point in going in.

Well, oddly enough, I've heard a slightly different story from those involved. I'm not sure where Mayor said what you say.

Mayor has said he could have gone in if he wanted to, he just wouldn't be allowed to use his camera.
Melissa was at least as concerned for Brooke as Kat Young was. I watched the WHOLE tape, not Mayor's admittedly edited version.

Why is Melissa being held to some other standard? Kat Young has worked with Brooke many times before and surely must know Brooke and Brooke's limits better than Melissa.

I think it was in that thread he asked the mods to delete.

Yeah? Well this this is what I know.

[15:47] Mayor: we were NOT allowed to enter and were told to wait
[15:47] Mayor: outside the studio
[15:48] Mayor: If I was allowed in without a camera (as I did last time on the show) I would have gone in but they told me to sit outside

I just finished watching the Cliff Notes. As a neutral party I can say that this is drama. And I can't believe it's gone on this long.