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Doctor Dre 06-16-2006 02:55 PM

I missed all the drama ... I got a question : Was brooke seriously hurt ? Or it was just emotional ?

Gabriel 06-16-2006 02:57 PM

those with a crush on one girl VS. those with a crush on another girl.

who can prove their puppy love more?

spunkmaster 06-16-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM
Oh yeah...the constant giggling by Brooke really seals it for me. If that wasn't enough, hearing Brooke say "go ahead" and "I'm gonna try" SEVERAL times really seals the deal.


No shit she was pretty happy and having fun for someone getting raped ?

jennym 06-16-2006 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eGawd
What does no mean to you? In a "controlled" environment, why would she have to stand up for anything? She made it clear didn't anything else to take place.

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

jennym 06-16-2006 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eGawd
What does no mean to you? In a "controlled" environment, why would she have to stand up for anything? She made it clear didn't anything else to take place.

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

AaronM 06-16-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome
Biggy wasn't even there, why would he be considered an alleged rapist?
Mayor's representative, his own wife, was there though, she was giggling throughout the incident and was helping push the dildo inside poor Brooke.


She was trying to limit the damage and assist Brooke within her limitations. As for Biggy...I stand corrected. But he's still an asshole for posting that video on the site.

jennym 06-16-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eGawd
What does no mean to you? In a "controlled" environment, why would she have to stand up for anything? She made it clear didn't anything else to take place.

There was a ton of laughing, giggling, no-okay-I'll-try. As a woman, I saw nothing that was "clear" she didn't want to do it. I also saw NOTHING that resembled rape. At the beginning, she seemed very hesitant to go through with this. That is when she was mouthing to the cameraman. As an ADULT, she should have at that point closed her legs, got dressed and walked out if she really didn't want to continue. When she didn't want to take it deep, she said no and stuck to her guns on that. She was not then forced to, which shows she had complete control over her own body.

I feel very bad for her. She is young, and may have been in over her head. She may have gotten caught up in the hype of it all. Bottom line is, we can't have it both ways. Either we believe she is old enough and mature enough to make her own decisions (have a porn site) or we don't. We can't just pull out the young and vulnerable card when it suits us.

vanillaice 06-16-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster
No shit she was pretty happy and having fun for someone getting raped ?

Yea, I think people are stretching a bit when they say rape considering how much she giggled and said 'ok i'll try'.

It sounded similar to a girl pressured into trying anal sex for the first time with her bf or husband. No.. stop.. ok, try now... ouch.. stop.. . ok try again... stop it hurts... ok one more time... ouch try your finger first...

Is that rape?

I'm playing devil's advocate btw, because I definitely feel for Brooke. I think she was pressured into doing something she really didn't want to do, but I wouldn't label it rape. Just a real suck experience which i'll be shocked if it doesn't drive her from the porn biz entirely.

jennym 06-16-2006 03:29 PM

GFY is going nuts. Posted that shit 3 times.

Thee Johnclave 06-16-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM
Fuck that. Melissa and Biggy both know how Mayor and Brooke feel about this and yet they have used the video as their latest update on their site. That is a truly classless piece of shit move to make and personally, I think anybody who decides to do business with Biggy and Melissa based on any of this is also a classless piece of shit.

As far as I am concerned, that video is a borderline gang rape caught on tape and Melissa, Biggy, and every guy in that room should be dealt with just like any other alleged rapist. Extreme? Possibly but so is violating a girl who was not strong enough to stand up for her rights beyond saying no and crying.

If she was not strong enough to stand up for herself why was Mayor not there to protect her? Why did his wife not step in? I'm not saying what happened to her is right but what Mayor did is completely wrong and classless.

As far as doing business with them over this...absolutely. I feel they were wronged and am of the mind to support them. I could give two shits what YOU feel that makes me.

Thee Johnclave 06-16-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick Buck
i thought sex was supposed to be fun?

I'm so confused now... the guys at mayors are good people and I can see why they are pissed off. My main complaint would be that they werent allowed in the room to protect their model.

I'll pay $66 per join to anybody who sends traffic to my sites even if you dont pull melissa's links ;-)

They were allowed in...they weren't allowed to film.

Haven't you read every word of the 30 threads on the subject, Hoop? ;)

Jman 06-16-2006 03:43 PM

This is from Melissa Midwest site

"June 16- Well hi everyone! I am back from Florida and the Tropical Storm/Hurricane didn't get me lol! As all of you know I was there doing the Bubba the Love Sponge Show live on Sirius Satellite Radio. The show itself went really great, everyone was super nice to me and I even got to do some new things and for me there are not many of those left (sexually). One of those was using a strap on dildo on another girl. Don't worry though I brought my best part time guy Luke down to document everything. I have tons of pictures and video of the entire 56 minutes I was on the air with everything that happen. If you have been waiting to sign up for my site, now is the time! Trust me this update won't disappoint anyone. Special thanks to Bubba for making my trip so fun and for talking to Howard Stern about getting me on his show soon! Don?t forget to join me in Waverly for the big car show this Sat. from 12pm-6pm. I will be taking pictures with everyone?s cars and have all my fun Melissa Midwest stuff! Here is the link to all the info on the car show!. Don't forget my Virtual 3-D Sex Game is free for signing up for my site. Also, check out my STORE section and my surfer chat forum MelissaChat.com."

Not ONCE she mentions Brookes name... Hell she even refers to her as the other girl.

Melissa Midwest as no fucking class at all :321GFY

Oh and the shoot, very fucking amateur and un organized... Oh and don't forget she brought her BEST part time Luke :1orglaugh

Thee Johnclave 06-16-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym
GFY is going nuts. Posted that shit 3 times.

That deserved to be posted 3 times.

AaronM 06-16-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid
If she was not strong enough to stand up for herself why was Mayor not there to protect her? Why did his wife not step in? I'm not saying what happened to her is right but what Mayor did is completely wrong and classless.


Mayor was not allowed in the studio and he was doing the professional thing and allowing them to run their show their way. His wife DID make multiple attempts to step in and was laughed at and told to shut up so she did the next best thing and that was to try to help her friend through it.

jennym 06-16-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Mayor was not allowed in the studio and he was doing the professional thing and allowing them to run their show their way. His wife DID make multiple attempts to step in and was laughed at and told to shut up so she did the next best thing and that was to try to help her friend through it.

Aaron...Mayor WAS allowed in, his cameras weren't. He already admitted that himself. He said if he wasn't able to shoot, what was the point in going in.

AaronM 06-16-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym
Aaron...Mayor WAS allowed in, his cameras weren't. He already admitted that himself. He said if he wasn't able to shoot, what was the point in going in.


Well, oddly enough, I've heard a slightly different story from those involved. I'm not sure where Mayor said what you say.

Heywood Jablome 06-16-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Mayor was not allowed in the studio and he was doing the professional thing and allowing them to run their show their way.

Mayor has said he could have gone in if he wanted to, he just wouldn't be allowed to use his camera.
Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
His wife DID make multiple attempts to step in and was laughed at and told to shut up so she did the next best thing and that was to try to help her friend through it.

Melissa was at least as concerned for Brooke as Kat Young was. I watched the WHOLE tape, not Mayor's admittedly edited version.

Why is Melissa being held to some other standard? Kat Young has worked with Brooke many times before and surely must know Brooke and Brooke's limits better than Melissa.

Heywood Jablome 06-16-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Well, oddly enough, I've heard a slightly different story from those involved. I'm not sure where Mayor said what you say.

I think it was in that thread he asked the mods to delete.

AaronM 06-16-2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome
I think it was in that thread he asked the mods to delete.


Yeah? Well this this is what I know.

[15:47] Mayor: we were NOT allowed to enter and were told to wait
[15:47] Mayor: outside the studio
[15:48] Mayor: If I was allowed in without a camera (as I did last time on the show) I would have gone in but they told me to sit outside

BlingDaddy 06-16-2006 05:05 PM

I just finished watching the Cliff Notes. As a neutral party I can say that this is drama. And I can't believe it's gone on this long.

jennym 06-16-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Yeah? Well this this is what I know.

[15:47] Mayor: we were NOT allowed to enter and were told to wait
[15:47] Mayor: outside the studio
[15:48] Mayor: If I was allowed in without a camera (as I did last time on the show) I would have gone in but they told me to sit outside

In this thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=622048

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggy
let me make one thing clear. mayor wasnt locked out, his cameras were locked out. big difference. security could've been in there, i even asked him about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayor
8 guys in a tiny room with 3 models. No camera=No reason to be in there. Don't be an ass.

That seems to imply that if he couldn't film, what was the point. Am I wrong?

gfx3 06-16-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oedipus
First, I wouldn't have let my model go into the studio without me being in there, especially a young model.

Second, Bubba was way out of line pushing the whole thing. He would have cried like a bitch if that strap-on was was being buried in his ass. Maybe he should consider shoving a toy of comparable size up his ass when he wants tiny models to be impaled by a dildo of that size.

Third, call the attorneys and tee this up. Legal action is far more effective at putting a bitch in his/her place than trying to explain everyone's point of view on a message board. Have Brooke see a physician to medically document any physical injury, have her talk to a psychologist or counselor, and pursue criminal and civil actions against BTLS, Melissa and her people.

Good to see the truth is coming out now, seems like this tape is something different than what Melissa posted on these boards.

Oedipus is very correct about what he writes. I also mentioned this in the initial thread that mayor made. Go to a doctor get a written statement and get your hands on the tape (seems like you got your hands on it).
Take both these elements to your attorney and fight this in court. I think you have this obligation towards Brooke Skye, Mayor.

I am very sure when a judge sees this tape this Bubba person is gonne get it big time because his show has been banned from the normal way of broadcasting radio shows. Brooke Skye is the underdog in this case so the judge will stick up for her.

I am not sure if Melissa is to blaim, from what I read it were the people on the set who tried to force a 19 year old. Perhaps she was playing along with the people from that radio station, this will be very hard to prove. Fact remains that Melissa posted a tape on these boards but that tape didn't show what this tape shows so :disgust

Looks like 3 young females were surrounded by a bunch of nasty gorillas who tried to talk them into doing stuff.

I do think that Mayor had every right to make his initial post on these boards and it's unfair to say he lost his face or whatever.

Mayor made a small mistake by not being present in the studio or provide decent supervision. The argument from "Biggy" that Mayor's wife was present during the whole session doesn't stick in this case because Mayor's wife is a tiny young female herself so that doesn't count as supervision in my eyes.

I call this a small mistake because it's very unlikely stuff like this could happen so you really can't blaim him. I'm sure mayor will take his conclusions and will make sure something like this can never happen again in the future. Calling him unprofessional would be a bit to harsh, he's not a pimp who needs to take care of his prostitutes, he makes porn wich is different.

I am 100% sure that pornstars like Sylvia Saint or Jenna always have a huge bodyguard with them on every single set they step foot on, who will always make sure everything is ok with them.

Bird 06-16-2006 05:21 PM

Thats so funny what a virgin"

DBS.US 06-16-2006 05:39 PM

I have seen guys go to jail for a lot less. A prosecuting attorney will say "What part of No did you not understand"
If you get a bunch of conservatives on the jury somebody could end up doing some time.:2 cents:

RobbieRye 06-16-2006 05:55 PM

I'm a little naive with this sort of stuff

Why didn't she just walk out?

SureFire 06-16-2006 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
In this thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=622048





That seems to imply that if he couldn't film, what was the point. Am I wrong?

jennym, I think the mayor thought everything was safe with show and if he was not allowed to film....what was the point being there.

I watched the video and if I was Brooke or Kat, I would have walked away...saying no fucking way loud enough for the audience to hear but I am not a performer.

Not sure who to blame it on, yet Millisa was not on the receiving end :Oh crap

UtahSaints 06-16-2006 06:18 PM

so whats the scoop?

babedirect 06-16-2006 06:24 PM

In my personal opinion...if you watch this video, at around 1:25 you notice brooke mouth "please no please no" to someone. At that minute it should have been stopped by someone!

babedirect 06-16-2006 06:28 PM

Im starting to side with Major on this one saying that something should have been done to stop this

babedirect 06-16-2006 06:28 PM

Im starting to side with Major on this one saying that something should have been done to stop this

Babagirls 06-16-2006 06:28 PM

im not on anyones side but my opinions are as followed:

-brooke did say no alot in the video
-however, brooke didnt walk away at any point
-melissa clearly said over and over again that she didnt wanna hurt brooke, yet kept going anyways. if she truly knew that it was hurting (brooke was crying for christs sakes), then she should have stopped
-bubba is annoying as fuck...stand by.
-bubba should have never kept pushin the girls to act out what HE wanted to see like it was gonna be titled "Bubbas Fantasy" (i mean come on, the part where he tells melissa to smack the strap on brooks pussy for a "grand finale" is lame at best..he was acting out his fantasy and droaling over melissa and kissin her ass the whole time.)
-the camera man sucks (try to hold it still next time buddy, couldnt see the "important" parts well.)
-bubba makin brooke feel like shit for not "goin thru with it" was totally not cool.

thats my take from the video.

ps: bubba needs to get laid.

jennym 06-16-2006 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureFire
jennym, I think the mayor thought everything was safe with show and if he was not allowed to film....what was the point being there.

I agree that's what he thought. I just take issue with him saying he was not allowed in there at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureFire
I watched the video and if I was Brooke or Kat, I would have walked away...saying no fucking way loud enough for the audience to hear but I am not a performer.

I agree again. It is Brooke' body and she should say hell no ANYTIME she is uncomfortable with ANYTHING...regardless of who might get pissed.

I would say to Brooke:
NOBODY will EVER look out for your best interest like yourself. Period. Always defend yourself. If you don't want to do something, don't fucking do it. I don't care who it embarrasses, who it pisses off, or anything else. Learn from this. You are always your own responsibility. Next time you are in a situation like this, you can nicely say "No thanks" and walk out, or you can scream "Fuck You ALL" and walk out. Handle it anyway you want, but NEVER let someone embarrass or harass or bully you into something you don't want to do. Also, don't kick yourself over this, or be ashamed. I promise that all of us women who have lived a while :winkwink: have looked back somewhere in our lives and said "I can't believe I fucking did that". Probably several times. Life goes on honey...it's not the end of the world. Good luck with everything you do.:thumbsup

chase 06-16-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tylo
Biased... Ehhh not so much, after watching the video I can see that both parties had quite a bit of pressure to keep going. They are there to promote there sites, They have both been on the show before looking at the archives and everything went fine.. This is just a unfortunate event. :2 cents:

But for Mayor to run press for them after retracting his statement and posting that he wanted people to put links back up and even put more up is more then most people would do. Plus MM and Big dragging it out, I don't think that she needs anymore plugs. She has the video on her site and is making money from it. What more do you want?

Actually, Melissa had not been there before, the pics in the archive of her are form a remote show she did from Nebraska.

DBS.US 06-16-2006 07:09 PM

From Melissa's site:

"using a strap on dildo on another girl"

They didn't even use Brooke's name!

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...board013zr.jpg

nico-t 06-16-2006 07:17 PM

juicy you are truly gay.

anyway, d/l now.......

Hawkeye 06-16-2006 07:19 PM

Looks like a situation of a girl having fun and "being in the moment". Then after the fact, she decides that because she isn't getting attention anymore she must have been "raped".

Of course, the guys in that room were complete fucking idiots and amateurs as well. Trying to shoot a porn film without getting explicit permission first.

This is why I always sign papers, and get the girl to admit on camera BEFORE SHOOTING that she is going to perform an adult video.

Amateurs and retards all around in this situation. Melissa, Brooke, Biggie, Mayor. All of them.

Hawkeye 06-16-2006 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster
No shit she was pretty happy and having fun for someone getting raped ?

My favorite part was when she mouthed "I don't want to do this", then she spread her legs open wider and started laughing.

That room was full of idiots.

nico-t 06-16-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
My favorite part was when she mouthed "I don't want to do this", then she spread her legs open wider and started laughing.

That room was full of idiots.

true. saw the cliffnotes video and didnt see anything wrong. Just some sluts willing to do anything for a buck.

tony286 06-16-2006 07:41 PM

this is a prime example why 19 is too young to do porn. Also saying are you ok while your going in and out isnt concern. Totally pulling out and saying are you ok do you want me to continue is concern. They needed a girl to do this to and Brooke was the pawn. They are creepy and mayor should of been stronger.

NoCarrier 06-16-2006 07:47 PM

All that crap for a "RADIO" show?!

nico-t 06-16-2006 07:49 PM

Sluts are sluts are sluts are sluts. Thats the equation for today boys n girls.

Quick Buck 06-16-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid
Haven't you read every word of the 30 threads on the subject, Hoop? ;)

I'm feeling "old" :-/


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