US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison - GoFuckYourself.com

Faustino · 06-15-2006, 11:46 AM

Operators of commercial websites with sexually explicit content would have to post warning labels on each offending page or face imprisonment under a new proposal in the US Senate....
...Senator Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican, who joined eight members of his party in introducing the bill on Tuesday, said: "The increase in internet use has given sexual predators new ways to prey on children. This bill, among other things, is intended to shut down these opportunities, and severely punish the degraded individuals who are involved in the sexual exploitation of our youth."

http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39159571,00.htm"]US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison

marketsmart · 06-15-2006, 11:50 AM

i am all for labeling but it wont do shit to cut down on online predators..

Tom_PM · 06-15-2006, 12:00 PM

I wouldnt mind that one bit personally. But they darn well better define it specifically. Do they want it ON the image? ON the page which contains the image AND the image? Do we use title 2256 for the definition? Etc etc.

L-Pink · 06-15-2006, 12:18 PM

If the warning is ignored on the first full page "enter-exit" the whole concept is worthless.

Like a warning on each cigarette vs the package.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 01:05 PM

They are so clueless. Yes commerical websites want kids( who have no credit cards ) to look at porn.

How come THIS is good enough for ALCOHOL companies?

http://www.busch.com/busch.html

MrJackMeHoff · 06-15-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

They are so clueless. Yes commerical websites want kids( who have no credit cards ) to look at porn.

How come THIS is good enough for ALCOHOL companies?

http://www.busch.com/busch.html

Well duh busch is run by bush. They just add the c to throw us off.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I wouldnt mind that one bit personally. But they darn well better define it specifically. Do they want it ON the image? ON the page which contains the image AND the image? Do we use title 2256 for the definition? Etc etc.

They want it on EACH page. So enter warning page then porn. The when the surfer click the NEXT page on the tour he get yet another warning page then he can go on to page 2. Then he clicks next and gets another warning page then he can click to get to page 3 and so on.

Also they are talking about COMMERCIAL sites. Well if someone has already paid to be a member didn't they prove they were 18? So therefore why would a warning page be necessary? Would a TGP be considered a COMMERCIAL page? I bet you could fight that out in court. Also I'm sure the hun is going to obey this law. When are these dipshits going learn the USA doesn't control the internet.

Mr. Soul · 06-15-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Token Clueless GFY Republican

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Originally Posted by Faustino

on each offending page

Notice the language?

JD · 06-15-2006, 01:18 PM

i have no problem labeling things but jesus....c'mon EVERY PAGE with a warning page? WTF

Mr. Soul · 06-15-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

They want it on EACH page. So enter warning page then porn. The when the surfer click the NEXT page on the tour he get yet another warning page then he can go on to page 2. Then he clicks next and gets another warning page then he can click to get to page 3 and so on.

Also they are talking about COMMERCIAL sites. Well if someone has already paid to be a member didn't they prove they were 18? So therefore why would a warning page be necessary? Would a TGP be considered a COMMERCIAL page? I bet you could fight that out in court. Also I'm sure the hun is going to obey this law. When are these dipshits going learn the USA doesn't control the internet.

I don't think they're talking about warning pages, I think they mean ever page has to have a warning on it. As in, you're going to have to put a warning about your tours and on every TGP gallery page.

I haven't followed this closely but that's the impression I got.

DaddyHalbucks · 06-15-2006, 01:26 PM

Parents need to watch their kids on the net.

There is no substitute for parenting.

bdld · 06-15-2006, 01:26 PM

maybe they mean labeling as in http://icra.org/ if so i'm all for it.

notabook · 06-15-2006, 01:27 PM

Finally, the first sensible thing I've seen the Senate do in years! Too bad John Ashcroft still wasn't around to see... it would have brought a tear to his eye, it's just so beautiful!

Now finally we can once again realize the ultimate truth: Nothing is at the fault of the parent's of any child in the world, it is always somebody else problem, usually either video game makers, MTV, or pornography. Thankfully the Senate has now seen the light and is going to put a staple (come on, it ain't a nail... yet) in the coffin for the third big evil!

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

I don't think they're talking about warning pages, I think they mean ever page has to have a warning on it. As in, you're going to have to put a warning about your tours and on every TGP gallery page.

I haven't followed this closely but that's the impression I got.

What is the point of putting a warning just above a pic of some chick sucking a dick? They want a warning page BEFORE any porn can be seen. Each page that has porn on it has to have a warning page BEFORE it. This is why this law would be overturned in court. It's excessive. ONE warning page is enough.

Pornwolf · 06-15-2006, 01:35 PM

I'm all for this as well. C'mon guys, you can't really complain about something we know we should all do anyway.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I'm all for this as well. C'mon guys, you can't really complain about something we know we should all do anyway.

On EVERY page?

Take a TGP for example. A warning page before entering the tgp. Then when the surfer clicks a link he gets another warning page before he sees the gallery. And every gallery he clicks he has to see a warning page FIRST.

Tom_PM · 06-15-2006, 01:38 PM

I think the icra/PICS method should be good if they'd adopt it. Plus, I believe it can be setup at server level to send the "adults only" tag(s) on each request.
If this was standardized, then esessentially all we SHOULD have to do is have our servers send the "warning", and it would be transparent to us.
Plus SE's could read it (if they felt like it) and only include it if the users preferences were set to "dont censor".

That could all make too much sense though, it's government after all

wyldblyss · 06-15-2006, 01:39 PM

These people are obviously brain dead. When a kid is looking for online porn because his parents are not monitoring him and he comes across a page that says you have to be 18 to enter, do they really think the kid is going to go...OMG, I have to be 18!!!! I will leave this page NOW". The kid is going to go, yeah, yeah, I'm 18 and head right on it.

I however can find no relation to labeling a site ADULTS only and the "degraded individuals preying on our youth" One has nothing to do with the other.

BobG · 06-15-2006, 01:41 PM

A label? oh yeah, thats gonna fix everything. "Hey, I know, lets put labels on all the pornsites and then all of our kids can be happy and start playing with slinky again and the world can go back to being a good place." What a fucking joke. I think the naked girl with the dick in her mouth pretty much informs you that the content is of an adult nature.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wyldblyss

These people are obviously brain dead. When a kid is looking for online porn because his parents are not monitoring him and he comes across a page that says you have to be 18 to enter, do they really think the kid is going to go...OMG, I have to be 18!!!! I will leave this page NOW". The kid is going to go, yeah, yeah, I'm 18 and head right on it.

I however can find no relation to labeling a site ADULTS only and the "degraded individuals preying on our youth" One has nothing to do with the other.

Also not to mention that fact this is an AMERICAN law and no non-American sites wil follow this rule so what is the whole point?

Tom_PM · 06-15-2006, 01:43 PM

Yeah exactly, wyldblyss. It's a scarlett letter they're talking about when you boil it down. But it's classic government. Appease the votes, dont upset the business money. Maybe it's not all bad.

dynastoned · 06-15-2006, 01:43 PM

this proposal can lick my balls. along with whatever other ingenious ideas they come up with.

Tom_PM · 06-15-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

this proposal can lick my balls. along with whatever other ingenious ideas they come up with.

Thats fine, just warn us first before posting the pics

czarina · 06-15-2006, 01:58 PM

the government will always take the path with the most complications.

dynastoned · 06-15-2006, 02:01 PM

i blame irresponsible parents fuck the rest. give your kid a football or a jump rope and tell them to go play outside so we don't have these problems anymore. too many lazy idiots in this country anyway. if you wouldn't let your child watch HBO after 10PM then you shouldn't let them use the internet unsupervised. plain an simple.

nestle · 06-15-2006, 02:04 PM

There's gotta be enough senators that look at internet porn (not that they'll publicly admit it) so that such proposals don't go through.

Seriously.

G-Rotica · 06-15-2006, 02:21 PM

I never hid shit from my kids. Caught my daughter surfing gay porn when she was 14, I guess she wanted to see what a penis looked like. I sat her down, explained to her it wasn't bad, she just wasn't old enough to see it yet. All was good. My kids are very well adjusted. Don't do drugs, don't run with gangs. Maybe had something to do with the fact that I raised them instead of nintendo.

czarina · 06-15-2006, 02:21 PM

the parents will never get in trouble for what thier children do.

solonline · 06-15-2006, 03:10 PM

Another fuking great idea from the Usa! So glad I live in a liberal part of the world that dont give a flying fuk what you watch so long as its 18plus and walks on 2 legs!!

L-Pink · 06-15-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i have no problem labeling things but jesus....c'mon EVERY PAGE with a warning page? WTF

They can't mean INSIDE the members area where nothing can be accidently stumbled across ...... do they?

JD · 06-15-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by solonline

Another fuking great idea from the Usa! So glad I live in a liberal part of the world that dont give a flying fuk what you watch so long as its 18plus and walks on 2 legs!!

so no amputee porn then.

Mr. Soul · 06-15-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

What is the point of putting a warning just above a pic of some chick sucking a dick? They want a warning page BEFORE any porn can be seen. Each page that has porn on it has to have a warning page BEFORE it. This is why this law would be overturned in court. It's excessive. ONE warning page is enough.

I don't think there is a point. I don't think these people are very smart. That's just what it sounds like to me based on what this article says.

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would have to post warning labels on each offending page

On, not before.

Pornwolf · 06-15-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

That could all make too much sense though, it's government after all

Yeah Tom, that makes waay to much sense. That would mean folks would have to use all the safeguards that have been in place for the last 5 years. It would never work.

notabook · 06-15-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

I never hid shit from my kids. Caught my daughter surfing gay porn when she was 14, I guess she wanted to see what a penis looked like. I sat her down, explained to her it wasn't bad, she just wasn't old enough to see it yet. All was good. My kids are very well adjusted. Don't do drugs, don't run with gangs. Maybe had something to do with the fact that I raised them instead of nintendo.

You should have just pulled out your cock and showed her what it looked like and told her she could touch it if she wanted to. That's how parents are supposed to teach their children, jackass.

Juilan · 06-15-2006, 04:20 PM

So google images will have to put up a warning sign? I love it.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

On, not before.

Yes explain that to the feds when they take you to jail for violating the law. If the law purpose is to prevent kids from seeing porn then placing a warning on the SAME page as the porn is stupid. I'm quite certian someone will point this out before this gets voted on.

GatorB · 06-15-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Juilan

So google images will have to put up a warning sign? I love it.

Well Google is exempt from 2257 for some reason. I'm sure they have enough $$ to get an exemption from this law too.

MrPinks · 06-16-2006, 08:55 AM

More bullshit and hoops to jump through. Did everyone read the full article. 15 years imprisonment? That's crazy. That part that is fucked up is "severely punish the degraded individuals". Sounds like they would get off on ruining the lives of webmasters.

scottybuzz · 06-16-2006, 09:08 AM

jeeeez just what we all need more fucking hoops to jump through.. too hoops to many for some

FetishTom · 06-16-2006, 09:15 AM

As a matter of curiosity why are Americans so obsessed with banning porn - or trying to ban porn or at least make life difficult?

What gives?

MrPinks · 06-16-2006, 09:23 AM

The other night I was seriously pondering why America is soo obsessed with sex predators. Seriously, it is all we hear about now. It is a horrible crime but it is getting a little sickening when it is exploited by the news and shows like Dateline and Donny Douche.

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Originally Posted by FetishTom

As a matter of curiosity why are Americans so obsessed with banning porn - or trying to ban porn or at least make life difficult?

What gives?

06-15-2006, 11:46 AM	#1
Faustino Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mexico City Posts: 56	US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison Operators of commercial websites with sexually explicit content would have to post warning labels on each offending page or face imprisonment under a new proposal in the US Senate.... ...Senator Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican, who joined eight members of his party in introducing the bill on Tuesday, said: "The increase in internet use has given sexual predators new ways to prey on children. This bill, among other things, is intended to shut down these opportunities, and severely punish the degraded individuals who are involved in the sexual exploitation of our youth." http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39159571,00.htm"]US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison

06-15-2006, 12:00 PM	#3
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I wouldnt mind that one bit personally. But they darn well better define it specifically. Do they want it ON the image? ON the page which contains the image AND the image? Do we use title 2256 for the definition? Etc etc. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-15-2006, 01:26 PM	#11
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Parents need to watch their kids on the net. There is no substitute for parenting. __________________ Boner Money

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notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	Finally, the first sensible thing I've seen the Senate do in years! Too bad John Ashcroft still wasn't around to see... it would have brought a tear to his eye, it's just so beautiful! Now finally we can once again realize the ultimate truth: Nothing is at the fault of the parent's of any child in the world, it is always somebody else problem, usually either video game makers, MTV, or pornography. Thankfully the Senate has now seen the light and is going to put a staple (come on, it ain't a nail... yet) in the coffin for the third big evil! __________________

06-15-2006, 01:35 PM	#15
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm all for this as well. C'mon guys, you can't really complain about something we know we should all do anyway. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i am all for labeling but it wont do shit to cut down on online predators..

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	If the warning is ignored on the first full page "enter-exit" the whole concept is worthless. Like a warning on each cigarette vs the package.

06-15-2006, 01:05 PM	#5
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	They are so clueless. Yes commerical websites want kids( who have no credit cards ) to look at porn. How come THIS is good enough for ALCOHOL companies? http://www.busch.com/busch.html

06-15-2006, 01:18 PM	#9
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	i have no problem labeling things but jesus....c'mon EVERY PAGE with a warning page? WTF

06-15-2006, 01:26 PM	#12
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	maybe they mean labeling as in http://icra.org/ if so i'm all for it.

06-15-2006, 01:38 PM	#17
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I think the icra/PICS method should be good if they'd adopt it. Plus, I believe it can be setup at server level to send the "adults only" tag(s) on each request. If this was standardized, then esessentially all we SHOULD have to do is have our servers send the "warning", and it would be transparent to us. Plus SE's could read it (if they felt like it) and only include it if the users preferences were set to "dont censor". That could all make too much sense though, it's government after all __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-15-2006, 01:39 PM	#18
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	These people are obviously brain dead. When a kid is looking for online porn because his parents are not monitoring him and he comes across a page that says you have to be 18 to enter, do they really think the kid is going to go...OMG, I have to be 18!!!! I will leave this page NOW". The kid is going to go, yeah, yeah, I'm 18 and head right on it. I however can find no relation to labeling a site ADULTS only and the "degraded individuals preying on our youth" One has nothing to do with the other.

06-15-2006, 01:41 PM	#19
BobG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,274	A label? oh yeah, thats gonna fix everything. "Hey, I know, lets put labels on all the pornsites and then all of our kids can be happy and start playing with slinky again and the world can go back to being a good place." What a fucking joke. I think the naked girl with the dick in her mouth pretty much informs you that the content is of an adult nature.

06-15-2006, 01:43 PM	#21
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Yeah exactly, wyldblyss. It's a scarlett letter they're talking about when you boil it down. But it's classic government. Appease the votes, dont upset the business money. Maybe it's not all bad. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-15-2006, 01:43 PM	#22
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	this proposal can lick my balls. along with whatever other ingenious ideas they come up with.

06-15-2006, 01:58 PM	#24
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	the government will always take the path with the most complications.

06-15-2006, 02:01 PM	#25
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	i blame irresponsible parents fuck the rest. give your kid a football or a jump rope and tell them to go play outside so we don't have these problems anymore. too many lazy idiots in this country anyway. if you wouldn't let your child watch HBO after 10PM then you shouldn't let them use the internet unsupervised. plain an simple.

06-15-2006, 02:04 PM	#26
nestle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 647	There's gotta be enough senators that look at internet porn (not that they'll publicly admit it) so that such proposals don't go through. Seriously.

06-15-2006, 02:21 PM	#27
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	I never hid shit from my kids. Caught my daughter surfing gay porn when she was 14, I guess she wanted to see what a penis looked like. I sat her down, explained to her it wasn't bad, she just wasn't old enough to see it yet. All was good. My kids are very well adjusted. Don't do drugs, don't run with gangs. Maybe had something to do with the fact that I raised them instead of nintendo. __________________

06-15-2006, 03:10 PM	#29
solonline Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: EU- Posts: 718	Another fuking great idea from the Usa! So glad I live in a liberal part of the world that dont give a flying fuk what you watch so long as its 18plus and walks on 2 legs!!

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Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	So google images will have to put up a warning sign? I love it. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

06-16-2006, 08:55 AM	#38
MrPinks Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,767	More bullshit and hoops to jump through. Did everyone read the full article. 15 years imprisonment? That's crazy. That part that is fucked up is "severely punish the degraded individuals". Sounds like they would get off on ruining the lives of webmasters.

06-16-2006, 09:08 AM	#39
scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	jeeeez just what we all need more fucking hoops to jump through.. too hoops to many for some __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

06-16-2006, 09:15 AM	#40
FetishTom Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 341	As a matter of curiosity why are Americans so obsessed with banning porn - or trying to ban porn or at least make life difficult? What gives?