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Old 06-13-2006, 12:31 PM   #1
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:mad The U.S. dollar is going down the toilet.

http://www.x-rates.com/d/CAD/USD/graph120.html

I can't stand it! It's like getting a pay cut every single month. It burns me up every time I go to the bank machine or the store.
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:12 PM   #2
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i had a US bank account here in canada......i should have exchanged my $ a long time ago fuck
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Don't play with this then. ;)
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:27 PM   #6
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dude have you seen the liquid currency rate? gold? its dropped $150 in an month so far.
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:07 PM   #8
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dude have you seen the liquid currency rate? gold? its dropped $150 in an month so far.

it's doing pretty good here, it went from 6 bucks for a dollar to 6.80 in one month, so in fact I got a raise ;)

and with the gold price going down, and investors pulling out of emerging markets, it'll only get better
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A lot of currency is down. No biggie.
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It started to go down the toilet as soon as the euro was introduced as a currency
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:38 PM   #11
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I can't stand it! It's like getting a pay cut every single month. It burns me up every time I go to the bank machine or the store.
Get used to it Dollar's had a nice runup over the last days thanks to that "talk up the dollar" session last week. But shortly people will wake up and remember that the US is very close to the end of a rate increase cycle, while euroland is in the early stages of an increase cycle. The next couple years are going to be really strong for eur/usd.
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:39 PM   #12
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:44 PM   #13
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A weak dollar isn't necessarily bad for the U.S. economy.

It's bad for some sectors but good for others.

For those of you who live in other countries and get paid in U.S. dollars, it sucks for you but you also had quite a long run where the dollar was very strong against your currency....these things are cyclical.
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:44 PM   #14
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:45 AM   #15
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Actually, now it's up against the Euro
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I'm telling you people we have to switch our currency to Real Doll parts. Real Dolls keep their value high year after year, unlike the fucking USD. Some people invest in gold. I invest in real dolls.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:01 AM   #18
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i'm an ex-banker and my advise is that the dollar will go more down than it is now

u shuld earn money in euros

i earn a lot of my income in euros

check out my investment opp and earn some $$ in euros too
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:17 AM   #20
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:42 AM   #22
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:47 AM   #23
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Gold and Silver will always protect yourself from the devaluing of the currency by printing to much paper.
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It started to go down the toilet as soon as the euro was introduced as a currency
That's total bullshit.

When the euro was first introduced it was priced at $1.17....today it's at 1.26....only marginally higher.
And it dropped from that 1.17 for awhile and has had some fluctuations of it's own.
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Gold and Silver will always protect yourself from the devaluing of the currency by printing to much paper.
That's right if you'd have bought gold in 1980 for $850 an ounce today that gold would be worth less than $600 an ounce.
What an awesome return for a 26 year investment!!!!

(Also adjusted for inflation...the price in 1980 was over $2000 an ounce in today's dollars)

Get off the bandwagons and do some research people.
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That's total bullshit.

When the euro was first introduced it was priced at $1.17....today it's at 1.26....only marginally higher.
And it dropped from that 1.17 for awhile and has had some fluctuations of it's own.
Its not total bullshit, as soon as the euro was formed it became a threat to the dollars supremacy as the only currency for trading oil. Why do you think so many european countries movied over to the euro, there had to be a huge financial incentive to do so
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Its not total bullshit, as soon as the euro was formed it became a threat to the dollars supremacy as the only currency for trading oil. Why do you think so many european countries movied over to the euro, there had to be a huge financial incentive to do so
Gee I dunno, maybe they moved to the Euro because the whole fucking point of the Euro was to make it easier for EU nations to trade amongst themselves.

And it is total bullshit, your statement that the dollar has been falling since the introduction of the euro. All it takes is a simple line graph to prove that you're full of shit.

Also, as far as oil is concerned, the idiots in Iran are the ONLY people who have ever publicly mentioned trading oil for euros, and that's only because they hate the U.S., it has nothing to do with the dollar's value relative to other currencies
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Gee I dunno, maybe they moved to the Euro because the whole fucking point of the Euro was to make it easier for EU nations to trade amongst themselves.

And it is total bullshit, your statement that the dollar has been falling since the introduction of the euro. All it takes is a simple line graph to prove that you're full of shit.

Also, as far as oil is concerned, the idiots in Iran are the ONLY people who have ever publicly mentioned trading oil for euros, and that's only because they hate the U.S., it has nothing to do with the dollar's value relative to other currencies
Go post the graph and prove me wrong, becoming a rival to the dollar for oil trading is much more of a financial incentive than the bullshit "easier for EU nations to trade amongst themselves" crap that was made public.
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Go post the graph and prove me wrong, becoming a rival to the dollar for oil trading is much more of a financial incentive than the bullshit "easier for EU nations to trade amongst themselves" crap that was made public.

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It started to go down the toilet as soon as the euro was introduced as a currency
Hey genius, I don't even need a graph, it's this fucking simple.

I'll try to type S-L-O-W-L-Y so you can keep up.

The Euro was introduced at $1.17 usd.

Today, several years later it's worth $1.26

9 cents in over 4 years....WOW the Euro really kicked the dollar's ass huh?
If you call that the dollar going into the toilet then you have a very fucked up definition of a currency going down the toilet.

And even IF the dollar is sliding, that can be a very good thing for the U.S. economy considering our trade imbalance and dependance on foreign oil.
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Geo target the join page. Americans wont pay in Euros as it is unpatriotic. Just have it so that when someone goes to join if they are from American bill them in the shitty dollar and anywhere else in the world in Euros. Personally I add on 25% to bill in dollars.
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Hey genius, I don't even need a graph, it's this fucking simple.

I'll try to type S-L-O-W-L-Y so you can keep up.

The Euro was introduced at $1.17 usd.

Today, several years later it's worth $1.26

9 cents in over 4 years....WOW the Euro really kicked the dollar's ass huh?
If you call that the dollar going into the toilet then you have a very fucked up definition of a currency going down the toilet.

And even IF the dollar is sliding, that can be a very good thing for the U.S. economy considering our trade imbalance and dependance on foreign oil.
Your not even close to understanding what I'm saying sadly

Unfortunetly I do not have a graph to prove my point so I'm just gonna have to post facts instead

The dollars value since 2001

http://www.x-rates.com/d/GBP/USD/hist2001.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 0.676896 GBP

http://www.x-rates.com/d/GBP/USD/hist2006.html

Jan 2006 $1 = 0.566481 GBP

2001 - Canadian Dollars to 1 USD

http://www.x-rates.com/d/CAD/USD/hist2001.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 1.5032 CAD

http://www.x-rates.com/d/CAD/USD/hist2006.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 1.15788 CAD

Yes your right, the dollars worth more now than it was in 2001 NOT

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And even IF the dollar is sliding, that can be a very good thing for the U.S. economy considering our trade imbalance and dependance on foreign oil.
It ONLY remains a good thing as long as oil is ONLY sold in dollars, if oil starts to be sold in euros on a big enought scale your economy is completely FUCKED !

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Bush's fiscal policy maxed out the RAM on the printing presses. LOL

I think in the last 5 years he's increased the money supply now to over $10 TRILLION. That's Trillion with a T.

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Your not even close to understanding what I'm saying sadly

Unfortunetly I do not have a graph to prove my point so I'm just gonna have to post facts instead

The dollars value since 2001

http://www.x-rates.com/d/GBP/USD/hist2001.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 0.676896 GBP

http://www.x-rates.com/d/GBP/USD/hist2006.html

Jan 2006 $1 = 0.566481 GBP

2001 - Canadian Dollars to 1 USD

http://www.x-rates.com/d/CAD/USD/hist2001.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 1.5032 CAD

http://www.x-rates.com/d/CAD/USD/hist2006.html

Jan 2001 $1 = 1.15788 CAD
Gee that's funny, you talk about how the dollar went to shit when the euro was introduced, and then you post the dollars value versus pounds and canadian dollars to prove your point

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Yes your right, the dollars worth more now than it was in 2001 NOT
I never implied that the dollar is stronger today than it was in 2001, I simply pointed out that the dollar's value has nothing to do with the introduction of the euro numbnuts.



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It ONLY remains a good thing as long as oil is ONLY sold in dollars, if oil starts to be sold in euros on a big enought scale your economy is completely FUCKED !
Yeah as long as oil is only sold in dollars it's not a problem. And as long as my grandmother doesn't grow nuts she won't be my grandfather.
The odds of either thing happening are about the same.

Why on earth would the oil producers of the world intentionally try to fuck up the economy of their biggest customer? That would be like the Chinese government nuking Wal-Mart headquarters.
It's not gonna happen.
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I went up, way up in Mexico. It was at about 10.50 a month or so ago, and it went up to about 11.50 pretty fast. Now, it started dwindling again
It's at about 11.30 or so (I think, haven't checked this weekend).
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Bush's fiscal policy maxed out the RAM on the printing presses. LOL

I think in the last 5 years he's increased the money supply now to over $10 TRILLION. That's Trillion with a T.

Yeah you're right about that. It's so bad that they changed the reporting rules and they won't tell us how much currency is in circulation anymore.

However, for decades the U.S. has been the world's biggest customer, buying up everyone else's exports while other countries barely bought any of ours.

Now with the dollar weakening that's changing, and it's more expensive for the U.S. consumer to buy imports and it's cheaper for foreigners to buy U.S. products.
What I find hilarious is all of the foreigners who somehow think this means there's something wrong with OUR economy, when they're the ones getting the shaft on the deal.

A strong dollar is good for some things, but a weak dollar means our exports will rise and our national debt will be cheaper relatively speaking.
It won't hurt the U.S. consumer unless there's high inflation at home, which isn't happening right now.
So to all the people who don't like it.
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Yeah as long as oil is only sold in dollars it's not a problem. And as long as my grandmother doesn't grow nuts she won't be my grandfather.
The odds of either thing happening are about the same.

Why on earth would the oil producers of the world intentionally try to fuck up the economy of their biggest customer? That would be like the Chinese government nuking Wal-Mart headquarters.
It's not gonna happen.
I guess we'll have to see how this situation with Iran plays out, I fail to see how America can prevent Iran from creating their iranian oil bourse trading oil in euros though.

Whos gonna back America on that one apart from Britain

Btw I think your attitude stinks, no need to be such an asshole.
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All i was ever trying to do in this thread was explain why the dollar started to be worth less money to us non americans and you start giving me shit.

I guess like most Americans you took what I was saying as American bashing

This wasn't the case
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I guess we'll have to see how this situation with Iran plays out, I fail to see how America can prevent Iran from creating their iranian oil bourse trading oil in euros though.

Whos gonna back America on that one apart from Britain

Btw I think your attitude stinks, no need to be such an asshole.
Iran only controls about 2% of the world's oil supply, so any impact from them switching to euros would be negligible.

As for your other remarks, you were trying to say that the reason the dollar has been falling is because of the introduction of the euro, which is a preposterous statement. I just called you on your idiocy.

The fall of the dollar has nothing to do with the euro, it has to do with our trade imbalance and our budget deficit. Neither of those things has anything to do with the euro or your delusions about oil being traded for in another currency.
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Old 06-18-2006, 02:29 PM   #47
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Iran only controls about 2% of the world's oil supply, so any impact from them switching to euros would be negligible.
I'm pretty sure its much much higher than that

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...tries-map.html

Its at the very least in the top 10 according to quite a few sources I've looked at

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As for your other remarks, you were trying to say that the reason the dollar has been falling is because of the introduction of the euro, which is a preposterous statement. I just called you on your idiocy.

The fall of the dollar has nothing to do with the euro, it has to do with our trade imbalance and our budget deficit. Neither of those things has anything to do with the euro or your delusions about oil being traded for in another currency.
Would you mind explaining this a little more ? Give me a better understanding by educating me instead of calling me an idiot, even a link
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I'm pretty sure its much much higher than that

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...tries-map.html

Its at the very least in the top 10 according to quite a few sources I've looked at
Iran exports a little over 2 million barrels a day, which is about 2% of worldwide consumption.
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Old 06-18-2006, 02:45 PM   #49
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It does suck pretty bad...

100 euros equals around 126 usd

I've stopped counting the money I loose everytime I get USD and trading for euros...
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