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bellskids · 06-11-2006, 10:12 AM

hmm switched from cams.com to mtree used an almost identical iframe exactly the same traffic source and quantity and gone from sending 1000+ uniques down to approx 50 a day. thats just laughable, the frame gets huge clicks i know for certain, I was getting around 3-4 clicks per visitor on the cam frame alone. What do you guys think is the best webcam solution currently. I was sending 5+ free joins a day to cams.com for a while but havent seen a single cent earnt yet. I know that the aim of the game is to find a few spenders and earn big off them but what kinda number of joins is it necessary to send to get someone who pays?

any thoughts on this are much appreciated.

Digipimp · 06-11-2006, 10:18 AM

i average about 1 paid order for every 25 to 30 free signups on there.

Digipimp · 06-11-2006, 10:23 AM

i'll also say when i've used the iframe banners for cams it seems like it was reading alot of uniques and a very low amount of free signups compared to other ways of promoting. i hadn't quite figured it out yet with the iframe on the percentage program i was getting about 621 uniques per free signup and on other ways of promoting i get about 36 uniques per free signup, promoting in the same places even.

bellskids · 06-11-2006, 10:25 AM

well i was running at about 220 uniques per free join. I might switch back and send it another 50 or so signups and see if anything shows up. I used to do great with ifriends years ago, I wish they wouldnt put that protective wrapper bollocks all over their content its so fucking ugly. Plus the affiliate tools are non existant.

bellskids · 06-11-2006, 11:13 AM

a bump for todays business related query on GFY :p

flashbang · 06-11-2006, 12:14 PM

I made .20 with cams.com someone bought .99 worth of a show!
Is this even possible? I thought you had to buy like at least
$10 of credits or something...

evilclown · 06-11-2006, 12:49 PM

When I started using cams.com iframe ads I noticed a huge jump in uniques from when I was using regular cams.com banner ads. It's almost like cams.com is counting impressions as clicks? So this makes the ratios look worse then what they really are.

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Trax · 06-11-2006, 01:12 PM

I wouldnt use them in a hundred years
same for clickcash and others.

defresto · 06-11-2006, 03:43 PM

The normal average for cams.com is 50 uniques per free join on average tgp traffic. Free -> paid 76:1 and the global convertion is 3928:1 which is in reallity very good when we take in consideration that the clicks are not made from a gallery but go direct to free chats.

detoxed · 06-11-2006, 03:48 PM

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pr0 · 06-11-2006, 03:49 PM

mtree was the shit back when errol was handling affiliates....ahhh the good ole' days

i used to pop 8-20 signups a day on their cam system without fail for an entire summer

pr0 · 06-11-2006, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed

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camuseeme · 06-11-2006, 05:28 PM

Moneytree does not count clicks on iframes until the surfer actually clicks on the signup page, so that will make a bug difference when comparing to another program. Moneytree is a good program I just wish they paid more per signup and referrals.

Matt 26z · 06-11-2006, 05:38 PM

Depends on how the clicks are counted. Some cam iFrames will register as a hit in your stats each time the iFrame itself is loaded even if they don't actually click it.

GatorB · 06-11-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilFubAr

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You should clarify that HSN requires the surfer to submit CC info while cams.com does not. Though I can get 1:8 ratio in getting surfers to sign up to cams.com, out of 112 members I've gotten only 4 paid sign ups. Not going to cut it. So I stopped promoting them. I keep hearing "Well just wait and some of those will eventually spend." Really, hasn't happened yet. I think after a few months if they haven't spent yet they aren't going to. I really don't get what the other 108 idiots were thinking? Clearly they had to know the free shit isn't great and that they would have to pay for the good shit, but they signed up anyways. But they aren't spending, so why even sign up? Right now I'd take $3 per FREE signup over that $50 per PAID sign up that cams.com offers, but they don't offer that.

Jarmusch · 06-11-2006, 07:09 PM

Mnoneytree only counts signup page hits. Fucking odd I know.

lazycash · 06-11-2006, 07:19 PM

Yeah, your traffic numbers will be much lower using mtree but you will make a lot more than cams.com

edgeprod · 06-11-2006, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellskids

any thoughts on this are much appreciated.

I promoted MoneyTree for a few years, until it just got silly.

Jarmusch · 06-11-2006, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I promoted MoneyTree for a few years, until it just got silly.

What do you mean by 'silly'?

Digipimp · 06-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB

You should clarify that HSN requires the surfer to submit CC info while cams.com does not. Though I can get 1:8 ratio in getting surfers to sign up to cams.com, out of 112 members I've gotten only 4 paid sign ups. Not going to cut it. So I stopped promoting them. I keep hearing "Well just wait and some of those will eventually spend." Really, hasn't happened yet. I think after a few months if they haven't spent yet they aren't going to. I really don't get what the other 108 idiots were thinking? Clearly they had to know the free shit isn't great and that they would have to pay for the good shit, but they signed up anyways. But they aren't spending, so why even sign up? Right now I'd take $3 per FREE signup over that $50 per PAID sign up that cams.com offers, but they don't offer that.

It takes a little while but those signups happen at some point. They seem irregular to me but I still make more on the $50 per paid than I would on a $1 or $1 per free at other places with cams.

washiez · 06-11-2006, 08:07 PM

Moneytree is the shit. Who the fuck is serious about cam traffic and doesn't send to the join page anyway?

Lycanthrope · 06-11-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by washiez

Moneytree is the shit. Who the fuck is serious about cam traffic and doesn't send to the join page anyway?

Kevsh · 06-11-2006, 08:26 PM

Where are you getting your traffic from (i.e. what countries)?

I may be wrong and don't quote me on this, but they redirect many countries to an installer/dialer page - which they will disable if you request it.

edgeprod · 06-11-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

What do you mean by 'silly'?

camuseeme · 06-11-2006, 09:04 PM

They do redirect no us traffic.

bellskids · 06-12-2006, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Where are you getting your traffic from (i.e. what countries)?

I may be wrong and don't quote me on this, but they redirect many countries to an installer/dialer page - which they will disable if you request it.

the majority of my traffic is US based. My traffic is about 25% search engine 50% direct type in/bookmarks and the other 25% from various forum linkups,link dumps and the like.

Quick Buck · 06-12-2006, 06:56 AM

moneytree and their affiliated companies owe me close to $20k for traffic and have for a bit over a year.

They simply refuse to pay us.

If they'd welch on their debt to us I have no doubt that the are spending their days and nights figuring out how to fuck you too.

gooddomains · 06-12-2006, 08:10 AM

moneytree was considered a serious program in the past, but seems not be any longer

Juilan · 06-12-2006, 08:41 AM

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06-11-2006, 10:12 AM	#1
bellskids Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 558	Moneytree tracks approx 4% of clicks :S hmm switched from cams.com to mtree used an almost identical iframe exactly the same traffic source and quantity and gone from sending 1000+ uniques down to approx 50 a day. thats just laughable, the frame gets huge clicks i know for certain, I was getting around 3-4 clicks per visitor on the cam frame alone. What do you guys think is the best webcam solution currently. I was sending 5+ free joins a day to cams.com for a while but havent seen a single cent earnt yet. I know that the aim of the game is to find a few spenders and earn big off them but what kinda number of joins is it necessary to send to get someone who pays? any thoughts on this are much appreciated. __________________ http://www.lunascam.com/partners - HOT all natural pro dancing Spanish cam girl with the most amazing all natural breasts. These puppies sell like no other. 50/50 revshare. Converts awesome on Teen, Latin, Big Breasts, Amateur and Webcam traffic.

06-11-2006, 10:18 AM	#2
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	i average about 1 paid order for every 25 to 30 free signups on there. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

06-11-2006, 10:23 AM	#3
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	i'll also say when i've used the iframe banners for cams it seems like it was reading alot of uniques and a very low amount of free signups compared to other ways of promoting. i hadn't quite figured it out yet with the iframe on the percentage program i was getting about 621 uniques per free signup and on other ways of promoting i get about 36 uniques per free signup, promoting in the same places even. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

06-11-2006, 10:25 AM	#4
bellskids Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 558	well i was running at about 220 uniques per free join. I might switch back and send it another 50 or so signups and see if anything shows up. I used to do great with ifriends years ago, I wish they wouldnt put that protective wrapper bollocks all over their content its so fucking ugly. Plus the affiliate tools are non existant. __________________ http://www.lunascam.com/partners - HOT all natural pro dancing Spanish cam girl with the most amazing all natural breasts. These puppies sell like no other. 50/50 revshare. Converts awesome on Teen, Latin, Big Breasts, Amateur and Webcam traffic.

06-11-2006, 11:13 AM	#5
bellskids Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 558	a bump for todays business related query on GFY :p __________________ http://www.lunascam.com/partners - HOT all natural pro dancing Spanish cam girl with the most amazing all natural breasts. These puppies sell like no other. 50/50 revshare. Converts awesome on Teen, Latin, Big Breasts, Amateur and Webcam traffic.

06-11-2006, 12:14 PM	#6
flashbang Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 767	I made .20 with cams.com someone bought .99 worth of a show! Is this even possible? I thought you had to buy like at least $10 of credits or something... __________________ Your TGP traffic belongs to you again \| X Rated Words & Hard Links

06-11-2006, 12:49 PM	#7
evilclown Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 131	When I started using cams.com iframe ads I noticed a huge jump in uniques from when I was using regular cams.com banner ads. It's almost like cams.com is counting impressions as clicks? So this makes the ratios look worse then what they really are.

06-11-2006, 01:07 PM	#8
EvilFubAr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 1,141	Give us a try on Friday. We pay $40 per Free Membership Profile every Friday. http://adultrevenueservice.com

06-11-2006, 01:12 PM	#9
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	I wouldnt use them in a hundred years same for clickcash and others.

06-11-2006, 03:43 PM	#10
defresto Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 317	The normal average for cams.com is 50 uniques per free join on average tgp traffic. Free -> paid 76:1 and the global convertion is 3928:1 which is in reallity very good when we take in consideration that the clicks are not made from a gallery but go direct to free chats.

06-11-2006, 03:48 PM	#11
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06-11-2006, 03:49 PM	#12
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	mtree was the shit back when errol was handling affiliates....ahhh the good ole' days i used to pop 8-20 signups a day on their cam system without fail for an entire summer __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

06-11-2006, 05:28 PM	#14
camuseeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Little Rock, Ar Posts: 413	Moneytree does not count clicks on iframes until the surfer actually clicks on the signup page, so that will make a bug difference when comparing to another program. Moneytree is a good program I just wish they paid more per signup and referrals. __________________ Get in While it's HOT ICQ 190384930 http://www.girlsgonewildpass.com

06-11-2006, 05:38 PM	#15
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Depends on how the clicks are counted. Some cam iFrames will register as a hit in your stats each time the iFrame itself is loaded even if they don't actually click it.

06-11-2006, 07:09 PM	#17
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,479	Mnoneytree only counts signup page hits. Fucking odd I know.

06-11-2006, 07:19 PM	#18
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Yeah, your traffic numbers will be much lower using mtree but you will make a lot more than cams.com __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

06-11-2006, 08:07 PM	#22
washiez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,118	Moneytree is the shit. Who the fuck is serious about cam traffic and doesn't send to the join page anyway? __________________ every click counts...

06-11-2006, 08:26 PM	#24
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Where are you getting your traffic from (i.e. what countries)? I may be wrong and don't quote me on this, but they redirect many countries to an installer/dialer page - which they will disable if you request it.

06-11-2006, 09:04 PM	#26
camuseeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Little Rock, Ar Posts: 413	They do redirect no us traffic. __________________ Get in While it's HOT ICQ 190384930 http://www.girlsgonewildpass.com

06-12-2006, 06:56 AM	#28
Quick Buck Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Free-Trials.......... Weekly-Payouts..... 100+Sites Posts: 1,026	moneytree and their affiliated companies owe me close to $20k for traffic and have for a bit over a year. They simply refuse to pay us. If they'd welch on their debt to us I have no doubt that the are spending their days and nights figuring out how to fuck you too. __________________ $50 FREE TRIALS! Every Day til 2008!!! Only at QuickBuck

06-12-2006, 08:10 AM	#29
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	moneytree was considered a serious program in the past, but seems not be any longer

06-12-2006, 08:41 AM	#30
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