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Pleasurepays · 06-10-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Not sure about his wanking abilities Relish - and prefer not to know.

He's the same as the rest of the deviant tribal mob. They were bred to hate everyone, everything outside their own state. Chances are, he could not point to New York on a map (you seen the stats year in year out?).

The tools of the trade are one-liners - along the lines of "nuke them", "Execute the terrorists - they are a waste of space" blah.

The other tools of the trade include no knowledge - a vital qualification. Tho they will attempt to discuss scenarios and laws, but have never read those laws and reached the third sentence before getting bored.

Other tools include .. comes in varying forms.. but includes "righteousness", "religious" fever (cult style) and a need to keep uttering "labelling words" - stuff like "terrorist", "communist", "liberal" blah. It is a learned behavior and the "labelling words" make it simple - basically ya just have to hate them all - and life will be OK.

Having a dialog with any sense is impossible - apart from the one-liners which often have no meaning - logic is severely missing. Favorites are attemting to have a "discussion" when there is nothing to actually "discuss" - it's simply a matter of fact and already available for anyone who cares to read it. But they don't read.

If you care to look at websites of the, allegedly "reorganized", KKK - they are much the same in attitude. Basically deviant total retards with a brain cell malformation which has been used by the purveyors of hate.

Now.. about wanking - na.. I still don't want to know about that

hey i found a pic of you!!

love the hair!

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Guilty .. until proven innocent ...

Seems to bre the new way of the Freedom USA ...

and this not only for Guantanamo, but also for 7 marines in Camp Pembelton ... They are accused ( at least they are accused, them ) of comitting atrocities in Iraq ... and kept in solitary confinment ...

Again, this is an abuse of powers ... They are not really a risk to society and should be freed until their trial is over ... Why solitary confinment ???? To keep them from talking ????

Your country is going to the shit with these people... too bad.

Guilty till proven innocent doesnt apply to non U.S. citizens that were caught on the battlefield.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Ok, let's play with your scenario... which inmates, exactly, are we talking about? Since you believe so heavily in their innocence, that means that you know each of their names and the exact circumstances and details of their arrest, correct? Or could it be that you have just heard that they are innocent and were wrongly imprisoned? Obviously, if they are still being detained, they are still being seen as a threat in some way.

OK.. Goes like this Edge... So far, out of over 500 people, only 10 (approx) have had any basis established where there could actually be a court hearing.

After X years of containing these people in conditions which are certainly not "conventional" and putting them under stress over this time - it is little surprise some resort to suicides.

From the accounts of those released from Gitmo - no person in possession of a balanced mind would consider the conditions there were in any way humane.
It is also worth nothing, that well above the average numbers of those released - they are not bitter or hold grudges, - but there seems to be a common theme that "some people in this world are simply evil". Where does that come from?

No person in the "free" world can be labelled as a crook or terrorist without have a trial and convicted of a related offense. Until that happens - there are no "terrorists" at Gitmo - it's a myth.

PS ... There is one guy who was released from there... a very bright, articulate and succinct man who is more than able to give an open and unbiased account of his time in Gitmo. A friend (actually represents authors and organizes conferences) is so confident in his balanced dialog and agreed to promote his book and also have him as a main speaker at major conferences. (He'll be in good company along with the previous speaker lists - Bush Senior, Bill Clinton blah blah). Never met him yet - but will, and going to be interesting.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Guilty till proven innocent doesnt apply to non U.S. citizens that were caught on the battlefield.

What you talking about? Is this some law according to who??? Duh?

Webby · 06-10-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

hey i found a pic of you!!

Thanks for the one-liner and the pic for simpletons - it's in keeping with the stuff I mentioned earlier

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Guilty .. until proven innocent ...

Seems to bre the new way of the Freedom USA ...

and this not only for Guantanamo, but also for 7 marines in Camp Pembelton ... They are accused ( at least they are accused, them ) of comitting atrocities in Iraq ... and kept in solitary confinment ...

Again, this is an abuse of powers ... They are not really a risk to society and should be freed until their trial is over ... Why solitary confinment ???? To keep them from talking ????

Your country is going to the shit with these people... too bad.

*it's Camp Pendelton.

As a retired US Marine I can tell you that the Military does not follow (and at times are not bound to) the same rules and standards as civilians (which is why Military personnel are tried only in Military courts). During war time, things change even more to adapt to the harsh realities and circumstances of the situation. "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to American citizens and/or those that are being tried in American courts. These inmates in Gitmo are not POWs, they are "detainees" which means that they do not qualify for the same rights and treatment (under the Geneva Convention) as Prisoners Of War would receive. It's a loophole; and things like that happen all the time, all around the world. Also, no one is ever "freed until their trial is over"; even as a civilian, the judge has the right to grant or deny bail.

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Thanks for the one-liner and the pic for simpletons - it's in keeping with the stuff I mentioned earlier

The thing is he will actually think that he is winning the discussion with his pre-school humour. I bet he is sat there laughing while his mum cooks dinner.

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

What you talking about? Is this some law according to who??? Duh?

Umm since when does United States laws apply to insurgents and war criminals? LMAO

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Guilty till proven innocent doesnt apply to non U.S. citizens that were caught on the battlefield.

neither to US citizens ... read moron ...

Webby · 06-10-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Umm since when does United States laws apply to insurgents and war criminals? LMAO

United States law applies to the United States - only.

What law assumes any other rights - other than those laid out under the Geneva Convention and other treaties which the US has agreed to?? None.

What law says "insurgents" are "illegal"? None

What court convicted anyone of "war crimes"? None

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

*it's Camp Pendelton.

As a retired US Marine I can tell you that the Military does not follow (and at times are not bound to) the same rules and standards as civilians (which is why Military personnel are tried only in Military courts). During war time, things change even more to adapt to the harsh realities and circumstances of the situation. "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to American citizens and/or those that are being tried in American courts. These inmates in Gitmo are not POWs, they are "detainees" which means that they do not qualify for the same rights and treatment (under the Geneva Convention) as Prisoners Of War would receive. It's a loophole; and things like that happen all the time, all around the world. Also, no one is ever "freed until their trial is over"; even as a civilian, the judge has the right to grant or deny bail.

What war ... please link me to the actual Declaration of War

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Umm since when does United States laws apply to insurgents and war criminals? LMAO

Nazis had the same position ... Nice going, Her Shittyfingerzdotnet

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

*it's Camp Pendelton.

Nope, it is :

Camp Pendleton

Both wrong ....

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Umm since when does United States laws apply to insurgents and war criminals? LMAO

not even to US citizens:

At an afternoon news conference, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III said his client, a Navy Corpsman, is shackled and being held in solitary confinement in the Camp Pendleton brig. Seven Marines are also accused of kidnapping and killing an Iraqi man on April 26. Sullivan said his client has not been charged with a crime and that he is being treated worse than a terrorist.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9331466/detail.html

for Freedom & Democracy

Webby · 06-10-2006, 04:07 PM

The defences for Gitmo on GFY are too embarassing and prob clouded by some form of nationalism - any international jurist would bust out laughing at the stupidity.

It's no surprise there is a desire to avoid a *real* trial and make up labels and terminology to suit each occasion as it arises and call it "law" - it's a farce.

There is prob a flip side to this - but that's been abused months back and has no credibility now.

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

OK.. Goes like this Edge... So far, out of over 500 people, only 10 (approx) have had any basis established where there could actually be a court hearing.

After X years of containing these people in conditions which are certainly not "conventional" and putting them under stress over this time - it is little surprise some resort to suicides.

From the accounts of those released from Gitmo - no person in possession of a balanced mind would consider the conditions there were in any way humane.
It is also worth nothing, that well above the average numbers of those released - they are not bitter or hold grudges, - but there seems to be a common theme that "some people in this world are simply evil". Where does that come from?

No person in the "free" world can be labelled as a crook or terrorist without have a trial and convicted of a related offense. Until that happens - there are no "terrorists" at Gitmo - it's a myth.

PS ... There is one guy who was released from there... a very bright, articulate and succinct man who is more than able to give an open and unbiased account of his time in Gitmo. A friend (actually represents authors and organizes conferences) is so confident in his balanced dialog and agreed to promote his book and also have him as a main speaker at major conferences. (He'll be in good company along with the previous speaker lists - Bush Senior, Bill Clinton blah blah). Never met him yet - but will, and going to be interesting.

You have a lot of valid points. The truth is, NONE of us (myself included) have any idea what is actually going on inside Gitmo; the only thing that we can base our conclusions on is what we are being told and who we are listening to. The fact that some of them have been released, reveals that they are actually trying to sort a few things out with at least some of the detainees; and not just leaving them in there for no reason.

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

not even to US citizens:

At an afternoon news conference, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III said his client, a Navy Corpsman, is shackled and being held in solitary confinement in the Camp Pendleton brig. Seven Marines are also accused of kidnapping and killing an Iraqi man on April 26. Sullivan said his client has not been charged with a crime and that he is being treated worse than a terrorist.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9331466/detail.html

for Freedom & Democracy

Military law is different from standard laws you fuckin asshat. Military law in a time of war is even more stringent. Of course both of you being from countries other than the U.S. would know better than everyone else.

Mr. Romance · 06-10-2006, 04:13 PM

that sucks...

Mr. Romance

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

The defences for Gitmo on GFY are too embarassing and prob clouded by some form of nationalism - any international jurist would bust out laughing at the stupidity.

It's no surprise there is a desire to avoid a *real* trial and make up labels and terminology to suit each occasion as it arises and call it "law" - it's a farce.

There is prob a flip side to this - but that's been abused months back and has no credibility now.

De fences of Gitmo can be difficult.... I only go here since your ilk made fun of a simple keystroke error.

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

not even to US citizens:

At an afternoon news conference, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III said his client, a Navy Corpsman, is shackled and being held in solitary confinement in the Camp Pendleton brig. Seven Marines are also accused of kidnapping and killing an Iraqi man on April 26. Sullivan said his client has not been charged with a crime and that he is being treated worse than a terrorist.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9331466/detail.html

for Freedom & Democracy

When you are Military personnel, you are no longer a "free citizen" of the United States, you are property of the United States Government; same as a tank, plane, gun, etc. Therefor, you are bound to a different set of rules and laws, than would be given to a civilian.

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Nope, it is :

Camp Pendleton

Both wrong ....

shit...... that's what I get for typing fast.

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Military law is different from standard laws you fuckin asshat. Military law in a time of war is even more stringent. Of course both of you being from countries other than the U.S. would know better than everyone else.

link to Declaration of War ????

Webby · 06-10-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

You have a lot of valid points. The truth is, NONE of us (myself included) have any idea what is actually going on inside Gitmo; the only thing that we can base our conclusions on is what we are being told and who we are listening to. The fact that some of them have been released, reveals that they are actually trying to sort a few things out with at least some of the detainees; and not just leaving them in there for no reason.

It's not hard to see Edge and prob will.. definately will, be clarified over time. Even if you read or watch interviews with released individuals - they are not exactly warped in their views nor retain grudges - they just say how it was and without any loaded agenda.

Can't say for all people released, but familiar with four. They should never have been in custody in the first instance - no question about it. But.. despite that, they were held for.. varying times, but around 2 -3 years and without access to any legal process. That is prob the most damning part - especially since they were within the control of the one country who shouts about freedoms most on this planet.

Who knows... it may be different in each person, but if it was me who was treated that way - I'd seriously have to be thinking of blowing some fuckers up, since they don't deserve any consideration. They are trash. The calmness of the actual people released has got to be commended.

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

link to Declaration of War ????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authori...lution_of_2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...021016-11.html

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HJ00114:

Pleasurepays · 06-10-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authori...lution_of_2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...021016-11.html

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HJ00114:

there was never a declaration of war. "authorization of the use of military force" is not "we declare war and all your bases are belong to us"

it was an authorization of military force to disarm iraq of the weapons that they apparently did not have

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authori...lution_of_2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...021016-11.html

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HJ00114:

no Declaration of War there ...

Any other links ....

Hint: The USA hasn't declared a war in the last 40 they took action ....

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

no Declaration of War there ...

Any other links ....

Hint: The USA hasn't declared a war in the last 40 they took action ....

They cannot declare war because there is no clear and defined "target". Technically, the war is on "terrorism" which spans many different territories. It's a technicality more than anything.

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

They cannot declare war because there is no clear and defined "target". Technically, the war is on "terrorism" which spans many different territories. It's a technicality more than anything.

very convenient ....

But with Vietnam, it wasn't terrorism, was it ???

Did the USA issue a Declaration of War against North Vietnam ????

Webby · 06-10-2006, 04:57 PM

OK... "Terrorism" is nothing new and it will not go away because any nation or groups of nations say so or flight wars against it. It will be here long after we have departed.

There is no such thing as a "War on Terrorism" - that's like saying there is a "War on Drugs". The end result - whenever everyone gets bored over the "War on Terrorism" will be the same end as the "War on Drugs" - pointless.

*Any* war requires a defined target as Edge said - or, it's simply not a war, but a rabble of garbage and using any old excuse to sway over the decks like a loose cannon in the hope of achieveing "something" at the end of the day.

EdgeXXX · 06-10-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

very convenient ....

But with Vietnam, it wasn't terrorism, was it ???

Did the USA issue a Declaration of War against North Vietnam ????

No, but we didn't issue a Declaration of War for the Revolutionary War or the Civil War either and I would sure as hell define both of those as Wars. A formal Declaration of War is not necessary right away; every since 1973 when the War Powers Resolution was enacted.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 05:04 PM

PS These damned "labels" being made up to simplify shit for mass-consumption are getting to be a pain in the ass

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

PS These damned "labels" being made up to simplify shit for mass-consumption are getting to be a pain in the ass

You are part of the " axis of evil " ... you hate our " freedoms " ....

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sorry, I'm rolling in laughter on the floor ....

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You hate Amerika .... because a " free Irak " means the world is a safer place ...

directfiesta · 06-10-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authori...lution_of_2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...021016-11.html

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HJ00114:

So kiddo, your mommy had to change your diapers ... and put you to bed ...

Note: Are you going to throw a party the day you have facial hair ????

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

So kiddo, your mommy had to change your diapers ... and put you to bed ...

Note: Are you going to throw a party the day you have facial hair ????

Lmao AGAIN you vaginal discharge, post up yo pic yo! And Korean war (as its called) was a police action. For you to argue this point is really really really really really dumb. But keep going if it brings you joy. After all you are a ugly old man living in a tiny house.

Btw I was out in the yard trimming the dead branches off the two trees back there, and then grilled out on our grill so my FAMILY could eat. Foolish faggots never learn. lol

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:10 PM

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White House spokesman Tony Snow said Mr Bush "expressed serious concern" at the deaths.

"He also stressed that it was important to treat the bodies humanely and with cultural sensitivity," he said.

Shame he didnt respect their human rights humanely which was the ultimate reason this happened.

Imagine if you had been in prison for 4 years without access to legal advice and had no visable hope of getting back to your family.

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Shame he didnt respect their human rights humanely which was the ultimate reason this happened.

Imagine if you had been in prison for 4 years without access to legal advice and had no visable hope of getting back to your family.

Tell you what. How bout this for a solution. You, DirectCumFiesta, and webbed toes, can all divide up the peace loving gitmo detainees. All of you can take care of them, make sure they are treated well. Have them be around your kids. Take them in and live with you since they are peaceful kite flying beautiful people. How does that sound?

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Tell you what. How bout this for a solution. You, DirectCumFiesta, and webbed toes, can all divide up the peace loving gitmo detainees. All of you can take care of them, make sure they are treated well. Have them be around your kids. Take them in and live with you since they are peaceful kite flying beautiful people. How does that sound?

Tell you what. Why doesnt AmeriKa take responsibility and actually give these men a fair trial?
Why dont you also try to put forward decent arguements for your case that these men should die in prison as opposed to acting like a 5 year old?

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:25 PM

This is great. They committed suicide in an act of war against the USA.

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I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of warfare waged against us

Rear Adm Harry Harris
Camp commander

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:29 PM

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/bio.asp?bioID=136

Rear Adm Harry Harris. Fucking idiot of the decade award.

drctfiesta · 06-10-2006, 06:31 PM

Webby · 06-10-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

You are part of the " axis of evil " ... you hate our " freedoms " ....

Dammit... must have "different freedoms"

I know there are three "freedoms" already - one for "us" (tho that means less freedom every day), - and one for Irak and we all know the Irak freedoms make the world a safer place - especially when combined with our democracy.

The third "freedom" is based on our values of .. well.. sanity, justice for all, logic and "our rules" (and where "our rules" can over-ride all logic). This category of "freedom" is for "them" - because they don't deserve any freedoms. That's why we established the Concentration Camp at Gitmo and send unconvicted people on world tours to be tortured. This is a freedom based on the well-established Judas Principle and involves hand-washing regularly - and very little "freedom" for the victims. Tho it's a much-cherished "value" and embedded in our democracy - somewhere.

When I was born, Mom named me Damian and always knew I was "different"

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Tell you what. Why doesnt AmeriKa take responsibility and actually give these men a fair trial?
Why dont you also try to put forward decent arguements for your case that these men should die in prison as opposed to acting like a 5 year old?

Gee I wonder why 3 men would all kill themselves on the same day... Hmm boy lets ponder that... I am short with my responses because most of the posts that Im responding to are too stupid to waste alot of time on.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 06:39 PM

Mmmm.. just reading the latest posts... now we got new labels... "detainees" and "police actions".

I never knew it was "illegal" to be a "detainee". On "police actions", who were the police and who swore them into any law enforecment organization??

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Gee I wonder why 3 men would all kill themselves on the same day... Hmm boy lets ponder that... I am short with my responses because most of the posts that Im responding to are too stupid to waste alot of time on.

Jesus you are now actually believing they killed themselves in an act of warfare against the USA? Fuck me I am going to have to inform the American Forces that they are doing warfare all wrong and that the idea is to shoot yourself in the head not the enemy. It will save on bullets as I doubt any of them will miss.

They probably all did it on the same time as they needed to get the courage to do it.

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Mr Blair has in the past described Guantanamo as "an anomaly that has to end".

Even Tony Blair Amerikas number one allie says the place should shut down.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Gee I wonder why 3 men would all kill themselves on the same day...

Can't possibly imagine for one moment. We know they were being very well looked after with trips to the beach and regular movies at the entertainment center.

One thing is clear... it takes some guts and determination for three people to agree to end their lives. Were they trying to say something? Or was it just a bad movie scheduled for screening that night?

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Jesus you are now actually believing they killed themselves in an act of warfare against the USA? Fuck me I am going to have to inform the American Forces that they are doing warfare all wrong and that the idea is to shoot yourself in the head not the enemy. It will save on bullets as I doubt any of them will miss.

They probably all did it on the same time as they needed to get the courage to do it.

Even Tony Blair Amerikas number one allie says the place should shut down.

Ya wow so hard to believe these people would kill themselves to prove a point......... Are you that fuckin stupid?

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Can't possibly imagine for one moment. We know they were being very well looked after with trips to the beach and regular movies at the entertainment center.

One thing is clear... it takes some guts and determination for three people to agree to end their lives. Were they trying to say something? Or was it just a bad movie that were going to see?

You fuckin sympathizing twit. lol So you think people that routinely go out and strap bombs to themselves to kill 6 or 7 people wouldnt kill themselves to help try and make the U.S. look bad? How many retard sandwiches have you eaten today?

Relish XXX · 06-10-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Ya wow so hard to believe these people would kill themselves to prove a point......... Are you that fuckin stupid?

Yes depression about not being able to see your family and locked up for 4 years without any view to being treatly properly is probably the point.

Webby · 06-10-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Ya wow so hard to believe these people would kill themselves to prove a point......... Are you that fuckin stupid?

Would you arrange with your "buddies" to agree to "group suicide" to prove a point? Why the hell you think they would? They are no different from you in any respect - never think otherwise.

stickyfingerz · 06-10-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Yes depression about not being able to see your family and locked up for 4 years without any view to being treatly properly is probably the point.

Now you are assuming these guys had families, or that they cared about their families. Its like Ron White says, you cant fix stupid.

06-10-2006, 04:07 PM	#65
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	The defences for Gitmo on GFY are too embarassing and prob clouded by some form of nationalism - any international jurist would bust out laughing at the stupidity. It's no surprise there is a desire to avoid a real trial and make up labels and terminology to suit each occasion as it arises and call it "law" - it's a farce. There is prob a flip side to this - but that's been abused months back and has no credibility now. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat. Last edited by Webby; 06-10-2006 at 04:09 PM..

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	OK... "Terrorism" is nothing new and it will not go away because any nation or groups of nations say so or flight wars against it. It will be here long after we have departed. There is no such thing as a "War on Terrorism" - that's like saying there is a "War on Drugs". The end result - whenever everyone gets bored over the "War on Terrorism" will be the same end as the "War on Drugs" - pointless. Any war requires a defined target as Edge said - or, it's simply not a war, but a rabble of garbage and using any old excuse to sway over the decks like a loose cannon in the hope of achieveing "something" at the end of the day. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

06-10-2006, 05:04 PM	#81
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	PS These damned "labels" being made up to simplify shit for mass-consumption are getting to be a pain in the ass __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

06-10-2006, 06:29 PM	#89
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/bio.asp?bioID=136 Rear Adm Harry Harris. Fucking idiot of the decade award. __________________

06-10-2006, 06:31 PM	#90
drctfiesta Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kingdom of Darkness Posts: 1,821	__________________ *

06-10-2006, 06:39 PM	#93
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Mmmm.. just reading the latest posts... now we got new labels... "detainees" and "police actions". I never knew it was "illegal" to be a "detainee". On "police actions", who were the police and who swore them into any law enforecment organization?? __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.