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woj · 06-10-2006, 07:54 PM

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johnnyhey · 06-10-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

LOL, wouldn't really consider this as an improvement.

let's see your version rembrandt.

aico · 06-10-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

On working with professional photgraphers. There's a difference between using post processing to add spice for entertainment value, and depending on post processing to have a decent picture.

Please name them I would love to know who they are, so I know who I am laughing at.

Have you ever even scanned a slide? Have even shot on chrome? Do you even know a single photographer who was around before digital cameras?

You're talking out your ass again. Even before Photoshop (which was a long ass time ago) photographers color corrected, airbrushed, retouched their chromes/negatives, Unsharp Masked, their photos before the final print.

Have you ever even been inside a Post Production shop? Where you look at your proofsheets or snips, with a loop and use a fucking Oil pencil to mark your images to be pushed, pulled, color corrected, etc??? Do you even know what a Snip is? Front snip, Tail snip?

I have never met a single professional photographer who does not adjust their photos one way or the other after they are shot. They use photoshop to fix makeup, fly away hairs, skin tone, color correction, eyes, teeth, highlights, shadows, and more. This is the difference between a photographer who sells his 10 photos for $15k, and a content shooter for a website.

aico · 06-10-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyhey

let's see your version rembrandt.

Set my whitebalance to the nifty little Lightning icon... there fixed.

edit: and show me the photos where she's holding up the color card, so I can color correct the right way, and I'll get right on it.

StuartD · 06-10-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Please name them I would love to know who they are, so I know who I am laughing at.

Have you ever even scanned a slide? Have even shot on chrome? Do you even know a single photographer who was around before digital cameras?

You're talking out your ass again. Even before Photoshop (which was a long ass time ago) photographers color corrected, airbrushed, retouched their chromes/negatives, Unsharp Masked, their photos before the final print.

Have you ever even been inside a Post Production shop? Where you look at your proofsheets or snips, with a loop and use a fucking Oil pencil to mark your images to be pushed, pulled, color corrected, etc??? Do you even know what a Snip is? Front snip, Tail snip?

I have never met a single professional photographer who does not adjust their photos one way or the other after they are shot. They use photoshop to fix makeup, fly away hairs, skin tone, color correction, eyes, teeth, highlights, shadows, and more. This is the difference between a photographer who sells his 10 photos for $15k, and a content shooter for a website.

You don't even read before you post do you? You really should go back to school or something. Perhaps you can at least learn to sound smarter.

aico · 06-10-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

You don't even read before you post do you? You really should go back to school or something. Perhaps you can at least learn to sound smarter.

Exactly the answer I was expecting from someone who doesn't know shit about what they are talking...

StuartD · 06-10-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Exactly the answer I was expecting from someone who doesn't know shit about what they are talking...

Oh, I'm sorry... am I supposed to say "I told you to shut up" or something as an intellectual response? Sorry I didn't learn from your beaming examples of intelligence.

I figure I have three choices, talk to you, bang my head against the wall or finish putting together my new bbq. And quite frankly, the first two options are way too similar in their pointlessness.

I give my input, you do searches for my name just to argue. As much fun as that is, it's not really very productive. Let me know when you have anything valuable to say, then perhaps I may actually consider you on a higher level than a 2 bit street walker. Until then, keep pissin in the wind about stuff you have no idea about. It's amusing.

aico · 06-10-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Oh, I'm sorry... am I supposed to say "I told you to shut up" or something as an intellectual response? Sorry I didn't learn from your beaming examples of intelligence.

I figure I have three choices, talk to you, bang my head against the wall or finish putting together my new bbq. And quite frankly, the first two options are way too similar in their pointlessness.

I give my input, you do searches for my name just to argue. As much fun as that is, it's not really very productive. Let me know when you have anything valuable to say, then perhaps I may actually consider you on a higher level than a 2 bit street walker. Until then, keep pissin in the wind about stuff you have no idea about. It's amusing.

No, you were supposed to answer any of the simple questions, which you obviously cant.

LMAO I don't search for you.. not my fault you talk out your ass in two threads that interested me.... Maybe you should talk out your ass less, then the odds of me being in the same thread will decline. Why don't you check an see who actually posted first in your Programmer thread... maybe you were searching for me?

It's kind of funny that both threads are you saying the likes of "Good programmers only need to use NotePad, and Good Photographers don't need to use photoshop"...

I know good programmers and I know great photographers, and neither of your statements are true of them.

You still can't answer any of my questions, because you don't know the answers. You are basing your facts on opinion, I am basing mine on knowledge. It is of your opinion that good photographers don't need to use Photoshop, however you are wrong, but you keep on thinking you know what you are talking about, if it makes you happy. Just quit giving out bad information to people who are asking for help, cuz you ain't helping them.

tony286 · 06-10-2006, 09:09 PM

very hot body indeed

Vitasoy · 06-10-2006, 10:31 PM

That girl is smoking hawt

StuartD · 06-11-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

It is of your opinion that good photographers don't need to use Photoshop, however you are wrong,

Alright, let me try to dumb it down for you... although, I'm sure I'll never be able to reach your level.

Let's go with this example. If you take photographs, and then go in for a job as a photographer, they will ask to see your portfolio. They already have a post-production department and won't need to see your photoshop skills. They want to see your composition skills, work with a lighting kit, flash kit, settings, hardware.... they want to see what pictures look like when they come off your camera.

If you can't take a decent picture, your pictures will never reach post production anywhere because no one will want to hire you, or buy your photos.

You are assuming that I said that good photographers never have their pictures processed... I never said that. I said that a decent photographer only needs their camera for a decent picture.

If you take consistantly bad photos and can make them decent with photoshop, then perhaps you should consider a career in photo retouching, not photography.

Now then, I'm sure you still won't get it... as your track record has proven. But for now, I'm done with this thread since it's painfully obvious that you'll actually learn a thing. So, I'll say farewell until you follow me to the next thread.

PS, the same goes for programming. I never said not to use anything to make time management faster... I said notepad is all you need to do programming.

crazytrini85 · 06-11-2006, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

A quicker way to do custom white balance is to have the model hold up a piece of white paper, eyedropper it in photoshop ACR, then record the WB settings and apply those to the rest of the pics from the same session.

You mean AFTER you take the pics do this in PS?

Is the ACR same as an action? I would like to get more info on this, or maybe a link to more detail if you have the time please.

crazytrini85 · 06-11-2006, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

There's something commonly said about post, similar to what you said above.

Photoshop (post) can only make a good photo better. It can fix a bad photo. I can tell you from experience it is MUCH easy to try an take the photo correctly, then to depend upon photoshop to fix mistakes. The time factor alone makes it worth taking your time.

That's why if he understands CS2 and shoots in RAW, it would make his life a little easier. But it all takes practice.

Can do in any PS or just CS2? And why is it easier to shoot in in raw, do you lose that much quality if you do not?

I'm new at all of this.

StuartD · 06-11-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Can do in any PS or just CS2? And why is it easier to shoot in in raw, do you lose that much quality if you do not?

I'm new at all of this.

Quite drastically lose quality... yes. The amount of information stored in a raw image is hugely different.
Put it this way, on my one gig memory card, I can take 256 large jpg images... on the flip side, I can take about 43 raw images. Quite the difference!

Here, have a read.. you can get some good ideas as to when and when not to shoot in raw mode (as a rough guideline): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_raw

fl_prn_str · 06-11-2006, 06:12 AM

sweet

Barefootsies · 06-11-2006, 06:18 AM

Bravo. Need more toe pic.

Young · 06-11-2006, 07:16 AM

StuartD has owned himself in the last two threads i've been in.

Mr. Fucking know it all ay?

StuartD · 06-11-2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

StuartD has owned himself in the last two threads i've been in.

Mr. Fucking know it all ay?

Yup, that's right. Except that I'm right in both threads.

GlamourGirlContent · 06-11-2006, 08:01 AM

She looks good! very cute! nice pics even when there is not enough light in the first two pics!
but you are on the right way...

Waveu6410 · 06-11-2006, 08:20 AM

hot pics!

rowan · 06-11-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

You mean AFTER you take the pics do this in PS?

Is the ACR same as an action? I would like to get more info on this, or maybe a link to more detail if you have the time please.

ACR is Adobe Camera Raw, which is an included plugin that loads RAW files into CS/CS2. You can set accurate white balance by clicking on a neutral colour (grey/white) in the image. ACR will figure out the colour temp and tint from that (on Canon RAW files, anyway). Assuming your lighting is consistent from shot to shot you can then apply these settings to the other pics.

This way may be better for someone who doesn't have a rigid shooting workflow as the grey/white card shot can be taken at any point in the shoot. If you were supposed to set in camera white balance at the start, and forget, well....

johnnyhey · 06-11-2006, 10:56 AM

not to speak on behalf of stuart, but what i think he meant was that exposure, color temp should be exposed properly at the time of the exposure.

i have plenty of galleries that i've shot that only needed levels and saturation to make them finished pieces.

i didn't mean to imply "shoot sloppy and try to fix it in post". PS is a great tool and very necessary for almost all shooters. i agree that there shouldn't have to be too much done in post for simple shots. maxim/fhm/playboy is a whole notha' story.

RawAlex · 06-11-2006, 12:33 PM

It isn't a question of raw or not raw format - it is a very simple question of white balance. It is the equivilant of shooting with the wrong color temperature film, and gives you poor results that can be SOMEWHAT fixed but it takes way too much work especially if the picture is also slightly over exposed.

if you are using the on camera meter, you may find that it is easily tricked by the excessive amount of blacks or whites in an image. Get yourself an 18% grey card and set your exposure off of that, shoot a couple of test images, and adjust from there. Don't leave your camera in automatic mode, set it up manually and keep an eye on the results as you shoot.

SgtStrider · 06-11-2006, 01:23 PM

I just wanted to say thank you to all who have contributed all and any sort of information.

Trust me, the next time I post any pics here, they will be a thousand times better. Now I realized some mistakes and are going to take corrective actions, so dont worry, this wont be the last time you get to flame me.

Thanks again, and just so everyone knows I didnt mean to cause so much drama.

rowan · 06-11-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

It isn't a question of raw or not raw format - it is a very simple question of white balance. It is the equivilant of shooting with the wrong color temperature film, and gives you poor results that can be SOMEWHAT fixed but it takes way too much work especially if the picture is also slightly over exposed.

If you shoot raw then it's piss easy to change the colour temp after the fact. That's why I very rarely bother with setting the in-camera white balance.

RawAlex · 06-11-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

If you shoot raw then it's piss easy to change the colour temp after the fact. That's why I very rarely bother with setting the in-camera white balance.

I was taught by very good professionals that garbage in = garbage out. Yes, with photoshop you can manipulate an image and correct almost any issue, but if you shoot poorly you will spend all your time fixing and no time adding quality to your work.

it takes a very few seconds to get the white balance reasonable, and can ave you hours of retouching that you could otherwise spend improving the details of the image and making those minor corrections that move the picture from good to great.

Plus if your color balance isn't correct to start with, you have the potential to lose quality because you have colors that are either over saturated or under exposed. incorrect color balance can you lose you detail and colors in an image you will never reproduce.

aico · 06-11-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Yup, that's right. Except that I'm right in both threads.

Ya drink up, ignorance is bliss. You must be one happy mofo.

jonesy · 06-15-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Was it A & I?

you in tha biz?

studio photo on melrose.

all the shops up there used each others services one time or another.

aico · 06-15-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

you in tha biz?

studio photo on melrose.

all the shops up there used each others services one time or another.

I used to drop off a lot of film at A & I. Film to A & I, slides to Icon.

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Hot girl. What the hell though?

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