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Old 05-26-2002, 12:57 AM   #1
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$1.9M fine for popup hell

http://msnbc.com/news/757058.asp?0bl=-0

64 popups, lol
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Old 05-26-2002, 12:59 AM   #2
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didnt look at the article yet

but sounds like offshore clicks
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:01 AM   #3
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Heyy... there's a Cupcake something or other company that owns a few of domains that are mispellings of my domain.
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:23 AM   #4
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Heyy... there's a Cupcake something or other company that owns a few of domains that are mispellings of my domain.
That's him. He has misspellings of ours as well. His most common domain owner name is "Cupcake Party".
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:29 AM   #5
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well in my opinion i don't think the FTC should be sticking their nose in. Sure what the guy is doing is hurting business for the companies but it should only be treated as a private manner (trademark violation) between the company and the guy who runs the mistyped domains. If the goverment starts regularting shit like this, what's next?
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:30 AM   #6
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I got hit by a pop up on the msnbc site, can I sue them for 1/64 of $1.9m or is it a sliding scale?

I get hit by more than 64 pieces of advertising during the average football game, will the broadcaster be sued for $1.9m ?

The FTC has gone mad again

Piggy backing on domain names is a seperate issue though, fry the fucker for that
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:31 AM   #7
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well in my opinion i don't think the FTC should be sticking their nose in. Sure what the guy is doing is hurting business for the companies but it should only be treated as a private manner (trademark violation) between the company and the guy who runs the mistyped domains. If the goverment starts regularting shit like this, what's next?
Agreed They can't start telling you how to spell something??..It just isn't right,
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:35 AM   #8
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Here's the actual write up on the FTC's site http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/05/cupcake.htm
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:42 AM   #9
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It was about more than just the basic trademark stuff. He was, from what I read, registering domain names that were typos of popular kids sites and then sending them to porn console hell.

I think they considered it a "scam" rather than just trademark fraud because of the scale of his operation and that fact that losing numerous trademark lawsuits/arbitrations didn't stop him.

If you are a trademark owner, you can spend $10k to get back one domain, then he registers 10 more copies of your name. Then you spend another $10k, and in the meantime, he registers another 60 typos. And so on. With all the money in the world, you can't win, because it takes 20 seconds and $6 to register a domain name and 8 months and $10k to get it back through the legal system.

He had a lot of warnings and lost quite a few individual cases before the FTC took this drastic step.
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:50 AM   #10
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My $0.02US, misspell domains for anything other than adult domains, like britneyspers.com are bad, just imagine the 7 year old teenie boppers who misspell this and get picks of "Sicko Anal" on their screen. If someone registers pakl.com to get some of PK's misspell traffic, I think it's wrong, but no where near as wrong as something that kids would be looking for.

And besids, what can popping up 30 ads accomplish, after the first 2, most people either close em all or just reboot, no?
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:58 AM   #11
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64 pop ups....
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Old 05-26-2002, 02:03 AM   #12
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64 pop ups....
That guy must not read GFY. I think 12 Clicks said on his newbie thread yesterday that you should never use more than 25 simultaneous pop ups.
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Old 05-26-2002, 03:32 AM   #13
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That ASSHOLE had 64 popups and redirect typo traffic. Hope that twat learned his lesson, and more people who opperate like him are shutdown as well.
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Old 05-26-2002, 03:40 AM   #14
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Just hope that fucker get his ass kicked out if he really sends kids to porno .
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Old 05-26-2002, 03:51 AM   #15
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I seriously doubt that this guy is making $800,000 to $1 million a year from that. I don't know where the FTC figured out that number, but I say they're just guessing.

If he was lucky, he was probably only making more like $50,000-$75,000
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Old 05-26-2002, 04:31 AM   #16
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FTC should be sued because of they are the FTC.
Every country have their own FTC... should they all join to be the WORLD FTC ??? Stop advertising, Stop recurring and Add for every product you sell the sticker: "SALES ARE NOT FINAL - DOUBLE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE - RETURN FOR ANY REASON TO RECEIVE DOUBLE CASH RETURN"

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Old 05-26-2002, 04:36 AM   #17
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"FTC investigators said Zuccarini makes from $800,000 to $1 million per year by charging advertisers whose ads appear on the browser windows."


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Old 05-26-2002, 05:17 AM   #18
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"FTC investigators said Zuccarini makes from $800,000 to $1 million per year by charging advertisers whose ads appear on the browser windows."
hehehe
You gotta love the ignorance of regulatory organisations that don't really understand the thing they are regulating
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Old 05-26-2002, 05:23 AM   #19
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lol another bastard
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Old 05-26-2002, 06:58 AM   #20
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They could go further with criminal charges for luring children to pornography. That's no different than me standing at my door and asking kids if they want to come in and watch cartoons, then pop in a porn movie.

It won't be long before someone sues the pants off of these sites that manipulate a browser in ways that the surfer didn't ask for... be it a porn site, warez site or whatever.. but that's a different Geraldo show..
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Old 05-26-2002, 09:52 AM   #21
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it better not be retarded like the m$ antitrust case.

the moment i saw the government telling microsoft "you cannot place your internet explorer icon on the desktop" i gave up. when the government is stepping in and telling a company how to lay out their program... they've gone too far.

next thing you know the government will be issuing us standard website templates and telling us to use those.
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Old 05-26-2002, 09:58 AM   #22
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thank god i only have 63 pop ups on my tinytooon.com site. Who knew kids loved beastiality dialers so much.
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Old 05-26-2002, 10:49 AM   #23
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This is the begining of the end of popups.

Thank God.
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This is the begining of the end of popups.

Thank God.
I had a beaut today - popped up, asked if I wanted to dl their dialer. Clicked 'No' and closed the window. The same window popped up and asked the same question.... continued until I was less amused with it - had to ctrl alt del with offline browser to kill the fuckin thing. The only other way to stop it is to dl the dialer.

Can we target dialers after we finish off the pop-ups?
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"The court also has barred the defendant from participating in advertising affiliate programs"

wtf!

He can just start his own program or do business thru an offshore entity...
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You gotta love the ignorance of regulatory organisations that don't really understand the thing they are regulating

That could be true Tipsy, but the question then would be did they underestimate or overestimate?
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That could be true Tipsy, but the question then would be did they underestimate or overestimate?
It's probably better if people keep thinking they overestimated. You don't want to give anyone any bad ideas.
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I had a beaut today - popped up, asked if I wanted to dl their dialer. Clicked 'No' and closed the window. The same window popped up and asked the same question.... continued until I was less amused with it - had to ctrl alt del with offline browser to kill the fuckin thing. The only other way to stop it is to dl the dialer.

Can we target dialers after we finish off the pop-ups?
i like the ones that ask you 3 times if you want to download it, and then after you click no the 3rd time it tries to download it automatically and you get the open/save/cancel window.
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