$1.9M fine for popup hell - GoFuckYourself.com

dipshit moron retard · 05-26-2002, 12:57 AM

http://msnbc.com/news/757058.asp?0bl=-0

64 popups, lol

DPlayMax · 05-26-2002, 12:59 AM

didnt look at the article yet

but sounds like offshore clicks

PersianKitty · 05-26-2002, 01:01 AM

Heyy... there's a Cupcake something or other company that owns a few of domains that are mispellings of my domain.

Mr.Fiction · 05-26-2002, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
Heyy... there's a Cupcake something or other company that owns a few of domains that are mispellings of my domain.

That's him. He has misspellings of ours as well. His most common domain owner name is "Cupcake Party".

m0rph3us · 05-26-2002, 01:29 AM

well in my opinion i don't think the FTC should be sticking their nose in. Sure what the guy is doing is hurting business for the companies but it should only be treated as a private manner (trademark violation) between the company and the guy who runs the mistyped domains. If the goverment starts regularting shit like this, what's next?

Ted · 05-26-2002, 01:30 AM

I got hit by a pop up on the msnbc site, can I sue them for 1/64 of $1.9m or is it a sliding scale?

I get hit by more than 64 pieces of advertising during the average football game, will the broadcaster be sued for $1.9m ?

The FTC has gone mad again

Piggy backing on domain names is a seperate issue though, fry the fucker for that

Wiredoctor · 05-26-2002, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
well in my opinion i don't think the FTC should be sticking their nose in. Sure what the guy is doing is hurting business for the companies but it should only be treated as a private manner (trademark violation) between the company and the guy who runs the mistyped domains. If the goverment starts regularting shit like this, what's next?

Agreed

They can't start telling you how to spell something??..It just isn't right,

PersianKitty · 05-26-2002, 01:35 AM

Here's the actual write up on the FTC's site http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/05/cupcake.htm

Mr.Fiction · 05-26-2002, 01:42 AM

It was about more than just the basic trademark stuff. He was, from what I read, registering domain names that were typos of popular kids sites and then sending them to porn console hell.

I think they considered it a "scam" rather than just trademark fraud because of the scale of his operation and that fact that losing numerous trademark lawsuits/arbitrations didn't stop him.

If you are a trademark owner, you can spend $10k to get back one domain, then he registers 10 more copies of your name. Then you spend another $10k, and in the meantime, he registers another 60 typos. And so on. With all the money in the world, you can't win, because it takes 20 seconds and $6 to register a domain name and 8 months and $10k to get it back through the legal system.

He had a lot of warnings and lost quite a few individual cases before the FTC took this drastic step.

posh rat in hell · 05-26-2002, 01:50 AM

My $0.02US, misspell domains for anything other than adult domains, like britneyspers.com are bad, just imagine the 7 year old teenie boppers who misspell this and get picks of "Sicko Anal" on their screen. If someone registers pakl.com to get some of PK's misspell traffic, I think it's wrong, but no where near as wrong as something that kids would be looking for.

And besids, what can popping up 30 ads accomplish, after the first 2, most people either close em all or just reboot, no?

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2002, 01:58 AM

64 pop ups....

Mr.Fiction · 05-26-2002, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
64 pop ups....

That guy must not read GFY. I think 12 Clicks said on his newbie thread yesterday that you should never use more than 25 simultaneous pop ups.

LoveAsianChicks · 05-26-2002, 03:32 AM

That ASSHOLE had 64 popups and redirect typo traffic. Hope that twat learned his lesson, and more people who opperate like him are shutdown as well.

Doctor Dre · 05-26-2002, 03:40 AM

Just hope that fucker get his ass kicked out if he really sends kids to porno .

Brown Bear · 05-26-2002, 03:51 AM

I seriously doubt that this guy is making $800,000 to $1 million a year from that. I don't know where the FTC figured out that number, but I say they're just guessing.

If he was lucky, he was probably only making more like $50,000-$75,000

brutus · 05-26-2002, 04:31 AM

FTC should be sued because of they are the FTC.
Every country have their own FTC... should they all join to be the WORLD FTC ??? Stop advertising, Stop recurring and Add for every product you sell the sticker: "SALES ARE NOT FINAL - DOUBLE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE - RETURN FOR ANY REASON TO RECEIVE DOUBLE CASH RETURN"

May I return my Hustler... it's now used, I got my blowjobs done.

DarkJedi · 05-26-2002, 04:36 AM

"FTC investigators said Zuccarini makes from $800,000 to $1 million per year by charging advertisers whose ads appear on the browser windows."

hehehe

Tipsy · 05-26-2002, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
"FTC investigators said Zuccarini makes from $800,000 to $1 million per year by charging advertisers whose ads appear on the browser windows."
hehehe

You gotta love the ignorance of regulatory organisations that don't really understand the thing they are regulating

Milton · 05-26-2002, 05:23 AM

lol another bastard

Scootermuze · 05-26-2002, 06:58 AM

They could go further with criminal charges for luring children to pornography. That's no different than me standing at my door and asking kids if they want to come in and watch cartoons, then pop in a porn movie.

It won't be long before someone sues the pants off of these sites that manipulate a browser in ways that the surfer didn't ask for... be it a porn site, warez site or whatever.. but that's a different Geraldo show..

mike503 · 05-26-2002, 09:52 AM

it better not be retarded like the m$ antitrust case.

the moment i saw the government telling microsoft "you cannot place your internet explorer icon on the desktop" i gave up. when the government is stepping in and telling a company how to lay out their program... they've gone too far.

next thing you know the government will be issuing us standard website templates and telling us to use those.

Gary · 05-26-2002, 09:58 AM

thank god i only have 63 pop ups on my tinytooon.com site. Who knew kids loved beastiality dialers so much.

SleazyDream · 05-26-2002, 10:49 AM

This is the begining of the end of popups.

Thank God.

Kat - Fast · 05-26-2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
This is the begining of the end of popups.

Thank God.

I had a beaut today - popped up, asked if I wanted to dl their dialer. Clicked 'No' and closed the window. The same window popped up and asked the same question.... continued until I was less amused with it - had to ctrl alt del with offline browser to kill the fuckin thing. The only other way to stop it is to dl the dialer.

Can we target dialers after we finish off the pop-ups?

jojojo · 05-26-2002, 11:55 AM

"The court also has barred the defendant from participating in advertising affiliate programs"

wtf!

He can just start his own program or do business thru an offshore entity...

Kimmykim · 05-26-2002, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

You gotta love the ignorance of regulatory organisations that don't really understand the thing they are regulating

That could be true Tipsy, but the question then would be did they underestimate or overestimate?

Mr.Fiction · 05-26-2002, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

That could be true Tipsy, but the question then would be did they underestimate or overestimate?

It's probably better if people keep thinking they overestimated. You don't want to give anyone any bad ideas.

dipshit moron retard · 05-26-2002, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kat

I had a beaut today - popped up, asked if I wanted to dl their dialer. Clicked 'No' and closed the window. The same window popped up and asked the same question.... continued until I was less amused with it - had to ctrl alt del with offline browser to kill the fuckin thing. The only other way to stop it is to dl the dialer.

Can we target dialers after we finish off the pop-ups?

i like the ones that ask you 3 times if you want to download it, and then after you click no the 3rd time it tries to download it automatically and you get the open/save/cancel window.

05-26-2002, 12:57 AM	#1
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05-26-2002, 12:59 AM	#2
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05-26-2002, 01:29 AM	#5
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05-26-2002, 03:51 AM	#15
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	I seriously doubt that this guy is making $800,000 to $1 million a year from that. I don't know where the FTC figured out that number, but I say they're just guessing. If he was lucky, he was probably only making more like $50,000-$75,000 __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

05-26-2002, 01:01 AM	#3
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Heyy... there's a Cupcake something or other company that owns a few of domains that are mispellings of my domain.

05-26-2002, 01:30 AM	#6
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	I got hit by a pop up on the msnbc site, can I sue them for 1/64 of $1.9m or is it a sliding scale? I get hit by more than 64 pieces of advertising during the average football game, will the broadcaster be sued for $1.9m ? The FTC has gone mad again Piggy backing on domain names is a seperate issue though, fry the fucker for that

05-26-2002, 01:35 AM	#8
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Here's the actual write up on the FTC's site http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/05/cupcake.htm

05-26-2002, 01:42 AM	#9
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	It was about more than just the basic trademark stuff. He was, from what I read, registering domain names that were typos of popular kids sites and then sending them to porn console hell. I think they considered it a "scam" rather than just trademark fraud because of the scale of his operation and that fact that losing numerous trademark lawsuits/arbitrations didn't stop him. If you are a trademark owner, you can spend $10k to get back one domain, then he registers 10 more copies of your name. Then you spend another $10k, and in the meantime, he registers another 60 typos. And so on. With all the money in the world, you can't win, because it takes 20 seconds and $6 to register a domain name and 8 months and $10k to get it back through the legal system. He had a lot of warnings and lost quite a few individual cases before the FTC took this drastic step.

05-26-2002, 01:50 AM	#10
posh rat in hell Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 403	My $0.02US, misspell domains for anything other than adult domains, like britneyspers.com are bad, just imagine the 7 year old teenie boppers who misspell this and get picks of "Sicko Anal" on their screen. If someone registers pakl.com to get some of PK's misspell traffic, I think it's wrong, but no where near as wrong as something that kids would be looking for. And besids, what can popping up 30 ads accomplish, after the first 2, most people either close em all or just reboot, no?

05-26-2002, 03:32 AM	#13
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	That ASSHOLE had 64 popups and redirect typo traffic. Hope that twat learned his lesson, and more people who opperate like him are shutdown as well.

05-26-2002, 04:31 AM	#16
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	FTC should be sued because of they are the FTC. Every country have their own FTC... should they all join to be the WORLD FTC ??? Stop advertising, Stop recurring and Add for every product you sell the sticker: "SALES ARE NOT FINAL - DOUBLE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE - RETURN FOR ANY REASON TO RECEIVE DOUBLE CASH RETURN" May I return my Hustler... it's now used, I got my blowjobs done. __________________

05-26-2002, 04:36 AM	#17
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	"FTC investigators said Zuccarini makes from $800,000 to $1 million per year by charging advertisers whose ads appear on the browser windows." hehehe

05-26-2002, 05:23 AM	#19
Milton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauritius Posts: 1,118	lol another bastard

05-26-2002, 06:58 AM	#20
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	They could go further with criminal charges for luring children to pornography. That's no different than me standing at my door and asking kids if they want to come in and watch cartoons, then pop in a porn movie. It won't be long before someone sues the pants off of these sites that manipulate a browser in ways that the surfer didn't ask for... be it a porn site, warez site or whatever.. but that's a different Geraldo show..

05-26-2002, 09:52 AM	#21
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	it better not be retarded like the m$ antitrust case. the moment i saw the government telling microsoft "you cannot place your internet explorer icon on the desktop" i gave up. when the government is stepping in and telling a company how to lay out their program... they've gone too far. next thing you know the government will be issuing us standard website templates and telling us to use those. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

05-26-2002, 09:58 AM	#22
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	thank god i only have 63 pop ups on my tinytooon.com site. Who knew kids loved beastiality dialers so much. __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

05-26-2002, 10:49 AM	#23
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05-26-2002, 11:55 AM	#25
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	"The court also has barred the defendant from participating in advertising affiliate programs" wtf! He can just start his own program or do business thru an offshore entity...