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Dirty F · 06-06-2006, 03:13 PM

Do you usually bid to get the #1 position or do you prefer to pay less and end up 4th place for example?

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 06:07 PM

It depends on the keyword and what I'm promoting. My best guess is 5% top spot, 85% 3 through 8 and the remainder on the second page.

fallenmuffin · 06-06-2006, 06:09 PM

Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

Are you sure your bid is high enough for your ad to actually show up? The estimates can be misleading. Sometimes they indicate a certain number of clicks per day even when your bid is too low to make the bottom of the list.

You might try boosting your bid for a couple of minutes to see if your ad shows up. If it's a high cost keyword I'd keep a live tail on your logs grep'ing for google in case it lights and you start getting slammed in the wallet.

2HousePlague · 06-06-2006, 06:18 PM

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spasmo · 06-06-2006, 06:19 PM

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fallenmuffin · 06-06-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spasmo

Are you sure your bid is high enough for your ad to actually show up? The estimates can be misleading. Sometimes they indicate a certain number of clicks per day even when your bid is too low to make the bottom of the list.

You might try boosting your bid for a couple of minutes to see if your ad shows up. If it's a high cost keyword I'd keep a live tail on your logs grep'ing for google in case it lights and you start getting slammed in the wallet.

I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

blackfeet · 06-06-2006, 06:41 PM

i never try for #1.

most surfers try at least 3 links before they buy.

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

If I understand correctly, your ads have never had any impressions, right?

An example bid for a keyword set of mine that is at the top:

Default bid:
USD $0.80 Max CPC [?]
Content bid:
USD $0.03 Max CPC [?] (always watch your content bids -- scammers abound)

If I were to drop the default search bid to $0.19 for that keyword set the ad wouldn't even run, yet under "Estimate Search Traffic" it says I would be spending $330 per day, which is nowhere near reality (there isn't that much traffic).

I've never seen an option for bid whatever it takes. I do have each campaign capped, but I've always seen that as a stop-gap in case something goes bonkers when I don't have my eye on it. I've never actually hit a cap.

FunForOne · 06-06-2006, 06:58 PM

I"ve doing some adwords for a mainstream deal for a few years. All of the sudden last week without changing anything, my clicks just dropped to 1/5 of what they were getting daily.

I dont understand, it wasn't a new campaign or anything. I guess a new player came in town and started outbidding me.

fallenmuffin · 06-06-2006, 07:07 PM

Well I just switch from starter mode to advanced and seems my keywords had a buyin of $5.00 or something and since its capped at $30/mo thats an avg. of $1/day lol no idea what i'm doing

phil_in_oz · 06-06-2006, 07:15 PM

Fuck adwords and fuck google, bunch of false clicks thieving scum c*nts. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

ahhh, that feels better

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 07:16 PM

Yikes! Find some less expensive keywords to practice with first.

Make sure you do the math to be sure you can make your money back before you bet the farm.

2HousePlague · 06-06-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_in_oz

Fuck adwords and fuck google, bunch of false clicks thieving scum c*nts. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

ahhh, that feels better

Dassum funny shit, yo --

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phil_in_oz · 06-06-2006, 07:26 PM

hehe - you should check out her archived rants 2HP - some gems in there - things we all know that go on with google's clickfraud etc.

http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo.../05/index.html

I'm never spending another dime on adwords again EVER. Fuckem.

2HousePlague · 06-06-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_in_oz

hehe - you should check out her archived rants 2HP - some gems in there - things we all know that go on with google's clickfraud etc.

http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo.../05/index.html

I'm never spending another dime on adwords again EVER. Fuckem.

Thanks for the link.

2hp

Dirty F · 06-06-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

Your MONTHLY budget is $30?

aico · 06-06-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

Monthly budget of $30??? shit that's less than half my daily budget.

edit: On one campaign.

BradM · 06-06-2006, 07:35 PM

Franck... spot 3 or 4 is best.

Pornwolf · 06-06-2006, 07:38 PM

It varies. Sometimes the ROI is so sweet that #1 is useful.

HouseHead · 06-06-2006, 07:46 PM

Never really fooked with adwords..Might have to look into it a bit more..Good info right here

Dirty F · 06-06-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Franck... spot 3 or 4 is best.

Thats what i usually have with good result. Just never tried paying the max to get #1 spots.

fallenmuffin · 06-06-2006, 07:53 PM

Yeah.. $30 big ones.. gotta test the water folks. lol I'm not a big player like you clearly.

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Yeah.. $30 big ones.. gotta test the water folks. lol I'm not a big player like you clearly.

Smart move. Once you get the hang of it you can ratchet it up as high as your budget will allow.

You'll have to spend more than $30 to figure out what works, but you can spread it out over a period of time.

Best of luck!

aico · 06-06-2006, 08:06 PM

Another tip... use Google Trends to find out which countries (Regions) are the top clickers for your keyword(s), then use the filters to only show your ads for those top countries.

Dirty F · 06-06-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Another tip... use Google Trends to find out which countries (Regions) are the top clickers for your keyword(s), then use the filters to only show your ads for those top countries.

I would seriously worry more if they buy or not. I mean China can be the top clicking country but i dont think i want them to click my ads.

aico · 06-06-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

I would seriously worry more if they buy or not. I mean China can be the top clicking country but i dont think i want them to click my ads.

Google blocks porn in China... but ya, I know what you are saying, it's just a Tip, not the Whole solution...

Phoenix · 06-06-2006, 08:11 PM

ppc traffic sucks...dont waste your time...this thread is full of falsehoods

everyone go back to doing something else thanks

bdld · 06-06-2006, 08:18 PM

adult is different than mainstream, i can think of more advantages to having the top stop in adult than in mainstream.

aico · 06-06-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

ppc traffic sucks...dont waste your time...this thread is full of falsehoods

everyone go back to doing something else thanks

Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

Phoenix · 06-06-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

nicely done

spasmo · 06-06-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

Don't ask, don't tell, but I suspect it's the same (and only) sponsor I push with PPC.

V_RocKs · 06-06-2006, 09:49 PM

Adwords...

#1 - Adwords works like the sandbox. A certain amount of favoritism is given to the people who have been there the longest. So if you are a newb trying to be the first one for something like Milf Hunter, good luck to you. You can put up a bid of $20 per click and it wouldn't matter.

#2 - Adwords is on a clicks per shown ratio. So even if you spend $10 per click on Milf Hunter, the guy with a better ad for $0.18 a click will still be #1.

#3 - Setting a small budget is one of the biggest factors for showing your ad less... If you set it to $100 per month and $30 per day, good luck... Google bases who gets shown bigtime on their ability to pay consistently... So someone with a lower bid but a $1000 a month/$150 a day budget will kick your ass even though they never get anywhere near the budget amount. They just have to show they have balls...

sh33p · 06-06-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Monthly budget of $30??? shit that's less than half my daily budget.

edit: On one campaign.

heh, fuq, I have a $440 daily budget on there.

Dirty F · 06-07-2006, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Adwords...

#1 - Adwords works like the sandbox. A certain amount of favoritism is given to the people who have been there the longest. So if you are a newb trying to be the first one for something like Milf Hunter, good luck to you. You can put up a bid of $20 per click and it wouldn't matter.

#2 - Adwords is on a clicks per shown ratio. So even if you spend $10 per click on Milf Hunter, the guy with a better ad for $0.18 a click will still be #1.

#3 - Setting a small budget is one of the biggest factors for showing your ad less... If you set it to $100 per month and $30 per day, good luck... Google bases who gets shown bigtime on their ability to pay consistently... So someone with a lower bid but a $1000 a month/$150 a day budget will kick your ass even though they never get anywhere near the budget amount. They just have to show they have balls...

Some good points ive learned as well over the months

Dirty F · 06-07-2006, 02:10 AM

Its kinda odd though they do that. I mean when youre just starting out with adwords its really hard to get decent listings and results. It took me months of having my account to make some good sales with the same campaign.

Theo · 06-07-2006, 02:26 AM

if you know what you are doing with adwords, you can turn content traffic more profitable than search traffic

GatorB · 06-07-2006, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Well I just switch from starter mode to advanced and seems my keywords had a buyin of $5.00 or something and since its capped at $30/mo thats an avg. of $1/day lol no idea what i'm doing

Ok I can tell you that with a $30 a month budget and $5 per keywords it's no wonder you aren't getting any impressions.

First of all $5 is WAY to high to be bidding. You shouldn't even be bidding $1 for any keyword.

Second $30 a month is WAY to small of a budget. Even if you were only paying 5 cents per click that would be too small. I can tell you that usually you'll spend maybe a 1/3 - 1/2 of what you actually budget for. If my budget was set at what I actually spent I would get maybe 1/2 to 1/3 the clicks I get. $1 a day means they won't charge you more than $30 a month not that they will actually charge you $30. If you really only want to spend $30 a month you should set your monthly budget to at least $75. which would be $2.50 a day. But like I said $30 is WAY to small. If you are just "testing the waters" you're better off spending that $30 over a week, but even that is too small. If you're not willing to spend at least $100 then maybe you shouldn't get into AdWords. So $100 over a week is $14 a day so I would set my daily budget at $30 minimum in order to be able to spend that $100. Not like you can't pause your ads if you are spending too much.

Also I will tell you that with adult content your ads and keywords will be reviewed before they go live. Google didn't use to do this but they do now. I've been using AdWords for 4 years now and go through $30 in a few hours and I get treated like this. Also sometimes they are a little slow reviewing so if you ad hasn't started after a day then e-mail them or call them 1-866-2GOOGLE and ask why your ads aren't showing. Also forget changing your ads or adding keywords Friday-Sunday they won't be reviewed until Monday. And you won't get anyone to answer e-mail or the phone then either.

Rui · 06-07-2006, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You shouldn't even be bidding $1 for any keyword.

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bigdog · 06-07-2006, 04:52 AM

you need 2 or 3 account reps like wiredguy has

ssp · 06-07-2006, 04:55 AM

I tend to go for positions in the middle of the screenheight. My theory is that people always focus on the middle of a page (like when reading GFY, I always scroll replies until they reach the middle).

Just make sure your ad text stands out from the crowd when you go for a middle position (4-5).

Brad Gosse · 06-07-2006, 06:43 AM

I bid for the top positions. You get way more traffic.

+ A well written ad doesn't have to pay top dollar if the CTR is good enough ;)

GatorB · 06-07-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

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I'm talking about porn retard. Hmmmm $35 say per sign up. Ok pay $5 a click and you have to get 1:7 just to break even. Ok real fucking smart. Like that'll happen on a consistant basis.

Tom_PM · 06-07-2006, 07:01 AM

By saying you have a $30 a month budget, then I assume you used their Budget Optimizer system (under Bidding on your Edit Campaign Settings screen). Thats where they limit you to your monthly budget, and spread clicks out.. Which means you're going to get like 1 click per day, then all the leftovers on the last day of the month. I'd change that to Manual and use a daily budget.

gooddomains · 06-07-2006, 07:10 AM

adwords can be good for you

rezzz · 06-07-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

wow that's great -- I suppose that you won't be telling anyone that source huh?

rezzz · 06-07-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spasmo

Don't ask, don't tell, but I suspect it's the same (and only) sponsor I push with PPC.

like I said, I suppose this won't be revealled huh? ;) ;)

Dirty F · 06-07-2006, 09:29 AM

Found a cool product yesterday very few people promote...results looking good so far.

Adwords is so much fun!

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06-06-2006, 03:13 PM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	People using adwords... Do you usually bid to get the #1 position or do you prefer to pay less and end up 4th place for example?

06-06-2006, 06:07 PM	#2
spasmo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Couch Posts: 2,678	It depends on the keyword and what I'm promoting. My best guess is 5% top spot, 85% 3 through 8 and the remainder on the second page. __________________ Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

06-06-2006, 06:09 PM	#3
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

06-06-2006, 06:41 PM	#8
blackfeet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 589	i never try for #1. most surfers try at least 3 links before they buy.

06-06-2006, 06:58 PM	#10
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	I"ve doing some adwords for a mainstream deal for a few years. All of the sudden last week without changing anything, my clicks just dropped to 1/5 of what they were getting daily. I dont understand, it wasn't a new campaign or anything. I guess a new player came in town and started outbidding me.

06-06-2006, 07:07 PM	#11
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Well I just switch from starter mode to advanced and seems my keywords had a buyin of $5.00 or something and since its capped at $30/mo thats an avg. of $1/day lol no idea what i'm doing

06-06-2006, 07:15 PM	#12
phil_in_oz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 145	Fuck adwords and fuck google, bunch of false clicks thieving scum c*nts. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/ ahhh, that feels better

06-06-2006, 07:26 PM	#15
phil_in_oz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 145	hehe - you should check out her archived rants 2HP - some gems in there - things we all know that go on with google's clickfraud etc. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo.../05/index.html I'm never spending another dime on adwords again EVER. Fuckem.

06-06-2006, 07:35 PM	#19
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Franck... spot 3 or 4 is best.

06-06-2006, 07:53 PM	#23
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Yeah.. $30 big ones.. gotta test the water folks. lol I'm not a big player like you clearly.

06-06-2006, 08:06 PM	#25
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Another tip... use Google Trends to find out which countries (Regions) are the top clickers for your keyword(s), then use the filters to only show your ads for those top countries.

06-06-2006, 08:18 PM	#29
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	adult is different than mainstream, i can think of more advantages to having the top stop in adult than in mainstream.

06-06-2006, 09:49 PM	#33
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Adwords... #1 - Adwords works like the sandbox. A certain amount of favoritism is given to the people who have been there the longest. So if you are a newb trying to be the first one for something like Milf Hunter, good luck to you. You can put up a bid of $20 per click and it wouldn't matter. #2 - Adwords is on a clicks per shown ratio. So even if you spend $10 per click on Milf Hunter, the guy with a better ad for $0.18 a click will still be #1. #3 - Setting a small budget is one of the biggest factors for showing your ad less... If you set it to $100 per month and $30 per day, good luck... Google bases who gets shown bigtime on their ability to pay consistently... So someone with a lower bid but a $1000 a month/$150 a day budget will kick your ass even though they never get anywhere near the budget amount. They just have to show they have balls...

06-07-2006, 02:10 AM	#36
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Its kinda odd though they do that. I mean when youre just starting out with adwords its really hard to get decent listings and results. It took me months of having my account to make some good sales with the same campaign.

06-07-2006, 02:26 AM	#37
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you know what you are doing with adwords, you can turn content traffic more profitable than search traffic

06-07-2006, 04:52 AM	#40
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	you need 2 or 3 account reps like wiredguy has

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ssp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,990	I tend to go for positions in the middle of the screenheight. My theory is that people always focus on the middle of a page (like when reading GFY, I always scroll replies until they reach the middle). Just make sure your ad text stands out from the crowd when you go for a middle position (4-5).

06-07-2006, 06:43 AM	#42
Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	I bid for the top positions. You get way more traffic. + A well written ad doesn't have to pay top dollar if the CTR is good enough ;) __________________ Free Clipart

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	By saying you have a $30 a month budget, then I assume you used their Budget Optimizer system (under Bidding on your Edit Campaign Settings screen). Thats where they limit you to your monthly budget, and spread clicks out.. Which means you're going to get like 1 click per day, then all the leftovers on the last day of the month. I'd change that to Manual and use a daily budget. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	adwords can be good for you

06-07-2006, 09:29 AM	#48
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Found a cool product yesterday very few people promote...results looking good so far. Adwords is so much fun!