[DRAMA] Fuck you pimproll/SilverCash/extremepaychecks/topbucks, FUCKING SPAMMER COCKS

[drama]

I have gotten thousands of spam emails on email addresses such as

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Why is it that i am now being bombarded by spammers who have my a unique email address which was created explicitly for your program. Are you selling your webmaster lists to these fucking spammers?


Keep in mind that i ONLY used these to sign up to your program and have never used them anywhere else.

Care to explain?

[drama]

Maybe i should start bouncing all these fucking emails through proxies to you peices of shit so you can go through what i go through

[polish_aristocrat]

ok, now we will see this

- "sig spot"
- "what a dumbass"
- "happened to me as well"
- "see siggy yo"
- "click my signature"
- "its not them, its their affiliates"
- "their database got hacked"
- "cry me a river"
- "someone said sig spot yet?"
- "siggy niggy"
- "See sig"
- "we dont spam our affiliates, but please email me the headers of the spam you received"
- "see my sig"


etc replies

[CDSmith]

But, I'm also an affiliate of a couple of those programs, have been for quite a few years now actually, and I'm not getting any spam like you're describing.

I won't try to explain how or why it's happening to you, but I'd lay off the scathing accusations in thread titles until you know for sure that someone is guilty.

[BluMedia]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

ok, now we will see this

- "sig spot"
- "what a dumbass"
- "happened to me as well"
- "see siggy yo"
- "click my signature"
- "its not them, its their affiliates"
- "their database got hacked"
- "cry me a river"
- "someone said sig spot yet?"
- "siggy niggy"
- "See sig"
- "we dont spam our affiliates, but please email me the headers of the spam you received"
- "see my sig"


etc replies

LOL

[Screaming]

you forgot

"sig spot secured"

[drama]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

ok, now we will see this

- "sig spot"
- "what a dumbass"
- "happened to me as well"
- "see siggy yo"
- "click my signature"
- "its not them, its their affiliates"
- "their database got hacked"
- "cry me a river"
- "someone said sig spot yet?"
- "siggy niggy"
- "See sig"
- "we dont spam our affiliates, but please email me the headers of the spam you received"
- "see my sig"


etc replies

Thats only IF they decide to address this issue...I'm guessing their affiliate program has been hacked and their members database as well as affiliate database has been hacked too.

[Tom_PM]

We do not sell our affiliates email addresses, nor give them away, nor email anything to them except a PimpRoll newsletter when there is an announcement.

You know, I've bought new domains before, pointed dns and set up hosting and gotten spam to the email address I've set up without ever using it.
Anyone care to explain that?

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

ok, now we will see this

- "sig spot"
- "what a dumbass"
- "happened to me as well"
- "see siggy yo"
- "click my signature"
- "its not them, its their affiliates"
- "their database got hacked"
- "cry me a river"
- "someone said sig spot yet?"
- "siggy niggy"
- "See sig"
- "we dont spam our affiliates, but please email me the headers of the spam you received"
- "see my sig"


etc replies

[4Pics]

Anyone that does [email protected] is asking for spam, if you did something else random then I would understand you bitching about spam, but spammers have figured out they can add all those to lists to earn more for selling the email lists.

[Damian_Maxcash]

It could be that the 'spammer' knows that thats the format webmasters use to sign for sites?

Someone has been on a wind-up for weeks, seems like a waste of time to me - but whatever turns you on I suppose.

[Spunky]

I was wondering why I had an extraordinary amount from them lately

[Tom_PM]

No, or else 12,000+ affiliates would be lighting up the boards with spam complaints. You are exactly the third person to ever mention something like this to me in a year and a half of doing support.

Please put in a request on your account info page and change your email address and let us know if it happens again, and also forward the complete email with headers for good measure.

[jact]

You want to make up a unique email address for a program, make it something unique, anyone can find a domain name and send email to all the major program names hoping for a match.

[email protected] would be unique
[email protected] would be pretty fucking weak.

[ne0]

you got spammed, welcome to the internets

[drama]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

We do not sell our affiliates email addresses, nor give them away, nor email anything to them except a PimpRoll newsletter when there is an announcement.

You know, I've bought new domains before, pointed dns and set up hosting and gotten spam to the email address I've set up without ever using it.
Anyone care to explain that?

Whois harvesting

[seeric]

um you are definitely not getting a spam from anyone at extremepaychecks.

unless there is a rogue mailer like the probs last week with other people.

send me the info. this is not drama. this is you not investigating and calling out a program that has never sent a piece of mail in its life.

if theres an affiliate or just some asshole out there doing it, it doesn't mean the program is doing it.

no one gets our email lists. we don't even freakin mail surfers.

send the info please.

[drama]

I have no trojans/backdoors/bots running on my computer.

I am behing a firewall so it isnt like these spammers have direct access to my computer.

I do "catch all" on my domains but they're coming in on those addresses.

I highly doubt i am the only person here with this issue.

[LadyMischief]

Oftentimes what spammers will do is simply use those names because a LOT of people create those type sof email addresses for sponsors. Maybe next time pick a better system? Don't neccessarily blame the companies.

[milambur]

I posted a possible reson for this spam some time ago, 0 replies....
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/604357-idea-spam-unique-mail-addresses.html

[drama]

I am even monitoring my network traffic which is incoming/outgoing from this machine and i can say that there are no reasons for this shit.

I have shit like adultfriendfinder@ and a few other programs who i do not spams on the emails i used to sign up with their program.

Airek, on its way.

[crockett]

I've gotten about 400-500 more spam e-mails today over what I'd normally get which is about 20-40 on any given day.

It's pretty obvious that is some fucking stupid ass noob as he's already been termed by a few of the programs he's sending to. I can deal with a little spam but dumb fucks like this guy I hope die a very slow painful death.

[drama]

It isnt a "HUGE" problem for me as they're getting tagged as spam and filtered to my junk box but this is crazy.

[SmokeyTheBear]

keep in mind when you use an addy like [email protected] , people will hit them randomly like

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]'

but just by the sheer amount of it lately i think theres more too it..

Im consider myself fairly internet savvy and after signing up to pimproll i was FLOODED with spam emails. starting a few hours after i got my "accepted" email.. this address was new had never been used for any other sponsors , wasnt a dictionary word or a tardemarked name ( i.e. [email protected] ) i spoke with pimproll and they were very adamant that it wasnt from them and such , and while i do believe their integrity , i think theres a bigger problem at hand with emails being stolen..

With most cases like the one you presented bove , there are ways ( as remote as they may be ) that you could have been spammed and they werent the badguy. but in my case above i cant find any rational explanation other than pimproll's database is hacked or someone has a backdoor , or their email server is being snooped

[Cyndalie]

do you actually think that a program would put their name before the @ sign? then fake the domain name? Sounds like organized spoofing to me.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by drama

I am even monitoring my network traffic which is incoming/outgoing from this machine and i can say that there are no reasons for this shit.

I have shit like adultfriendfinder@ and a few other programs who i do not spams on the emails i used to sign up with their program.

Airek, on its way.

you got it, i'm all over it.

[drama]

X-Envelope-From: <[email protected]>
X-Envelope-To: <[email protected]>
Received: from friend (nc-67-76-136-108.dyn.sprint-hsd.net [67.76.136.108]) by xxxx.xxxxx;
Message-ID: <000001c688f6$e27fda80$0100007f@Carolyn>
From: "Walter" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: She wants a better sex? All you need's here!
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:22:17 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by drama

X-Envelope-From: <[email protected]>
X-Envelope-To: <[email protected]>
Received: from friend (nc-67-76-136-108.dyn.sprint-hsd.net [67.76.136.108]) by xxxx.xxxxx;
Message-ID: <000001c688f6$e27fda80$0100007f@Carolyn>
From: "Walter" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: She wants a better sex? All you need's here!
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:22:17 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

yup i got the same message about 10 times , to the account i mentioned above that i signed up with pimproll

[SmokeyTheBear]

Rogert She wants a better sex? All you need's here! Jun 06 2006 1k
Simon She wants a better sex? All you need's here! Jun 06 2006 1k
Stephen She wants a better sex? All you need's here! Jun 06 2006 1k

[milambur]

Originally Posted by milambur

Couldn't it be a host or isp that extract e-mail addresses from all mail traffic on their net? I've gotten spam on some really unique addresses that I'm pretty sure are safe with the sponsors.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/604357-idea-spam-unique-mail-addresses.html

[drama]

I'd like to thank A1r3k for looking in to this shit. One of the more responsible people

[drama]

Milambur: that is a real possiblity but i dont know. Its a lot easier to hack a server than it is to own someone's core router/edge router and keep the access.

Smokey: I am glad that i am not the only one who is getting all of these. I do not think it is a "joe job" to be honest either. I noticed some from Soul Cash/Bangbros as well. But so far my pimproll@ and silvercash@ are the ones getting pounded.

[Cyndalie]

A1r3k

[drama]

X-Envelope-From: <[email protected]>
X-Envelope-To: <[email protected]>
Received: from friend (nc-67-76-137-252.dyn.sprint-hsd.net [67.76.137.252]) by xxxxx.xxxxx;
Message-ID: <000001c688fc$16a9ca00$0100007f@ethan-946329515>
From: "Rogert" <[email protected]>
To: <xxxxx.xxxxx>
Subject: She wants a better sex? All you need's here!
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:59:32 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

[Jarmusch]

There's no money in porn, the big money is in selling email lists now.

[milambur]

Hacking a server just give you access to e-mail addresses stored on that server, monitoring a node on a mayor isp could possibly give you a large chunk of the e-mail addresses of the entire world.

[Tempest]

If you use [email protected], you're going to get the spam once the spammer gets ahold of your domain. They're using program names, commmon names, common addresses like "admin", "sales" etc.

If you use [email protected], you'll eventually come to realize that a particular processor seems to have a leak and possibly a particular affiliate program software. But no one seems to care enough to be looking into it.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

ok, now we will see this

- "sig spot"
- "what a dumbass"
- "happened to me as well"
- "see siggy yo"
- "click my signature"
- "its not them, its their affiliates"
- "their database got hacked"
- "cry me a river"
- "someone said sig spot yet?"
- "siggy niggy"
- "See sig"
- "we dont spam our affiliates, but please email me the headers of the spam you received"
- "see my sig"


etc replies

This has to be the ultimate reply

But you forgot

"quote funny post with smiley beneath it with kudos" haha

[Tom_PM]

Smokey, if yours were similar headers then it seems like it's obviously the same person or outfit.. I have a couple of ideas, but I wont say more until after some work and some random testing.

I will reitterate that we do NOT sell, give away, or spam our affiliate email addresses. Nor was there any database hacked or stolen.

drama, if you havent done so yet, then go ahead and do the email change request form and let us know if you get another. That'd actually be helpful I think.

[drama]

Milambur: I doubt that is it because of the amount of resources it would take to sniff the traffic of a core/edge router unless the actual ISP was in on it which i also doubt.

Tempest: I think you might be on to something when you say that an affiliate software package might have an issue. It's the only commonality between them i think

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Smokey, if yours were similar headers then it seems like it's obviously the same person or outfit.. I have a couple of ideas, but I wont say more until after some work and some random testing.

I will reitterate that we do NOT sell, give away, or spam our affiliate email addresses. Nor was there any database hacked or stolen.

drama, if you havent done so yet, then go ahead and do the email change request form and let us know if you get another. That'd actually be helpful I think.

hey im gonna apply for an account in a few mins , under a fakje name fake email , can you please authorize it , let it stay open for a week or so , and then you can delete it..

Might as well clear your name or figure out the problem now..

[xlogger]

Listen, it is NEVER the sponsor giving out emails. Its hackers (maybe competition desided to play dirty?) extracting emails from the mysql DB or an employee leeking emails. Seriously, use some common sense, why whould a BIG sponsor gain from selling the list? A big sponsor would NEVER sell their webDB (well, not the retarded onces).

[Tom_PM]

Smokey, nobody is there to approve accounts right now. Can you wait about 12 hours or so when everyone is working? I'd like you to try it a certain way but I'm about to check out for the night..

[circlekhabib]

It's pretty obvious that is some fucking stupid ass noob as he's already been termed by a few of the programs he's sending to

things aren't always as they seem. we can only speculate that this is true.

forward the complete email with headers for good measure.

be a better measure to send them to spamcop. fuck em. if any of these
sponsors want to prove it isn't them, then don't take the traffic. sent it to
a generic 404. if you have the balls.
but you don't
you won't
so hi ho hi ho it's off to spamcop each and every spam goes

enjoy the heat
fuck you

[extreme]

Got the same mails, only to accounts that have signuped to sponsors.
And they're not [email protected].

So they're certainly using smoeones DB.

[SmokeyTheBear]

pr_tom -- sure . but i think i should prob signup how i did last time , since my pimproll account is one that this happened too and i know how i signed up last time.. in speaking with a few others about this i think the problem might be with nats "accepted email" , something snooping the email addy when you approve a site.. because when i signed up for pimproll it took a day or 2 for you to approve my account . i recieved no spam email not 1 email in 2 days.. a few hours after recieving my "approved" email from pimproll , i started getting 100 spams a day

[circlekhabib]

why whould a BIG sponsor gain from selling the list?

they simply add it to their list and sell it as new.
been going on for years now

[milambur]

Originally Posted by drama

Milambur: I doubt that is it because of the amount of resources it would take to sniff the traffic of a core/edge router unless the actual ISP was in on it which i also doubt.

Actually, it wouldn't take much resources at all. As for the ISP, why wouldn't they wanna be in on it, has to be some bad boys in that biz too. It would be very hard to trace something like this.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

There's no money in porn, the big money is in selling email lists now.

[David - PG]

Originally Posted by xlogger

Listen, it is NEVER the sponsor giving out emails. Its hackers (maybe competition desided to play dirty?) extracting emails from the mysql DB or an employee leeking emails. Seriously, use some common sense, why whould a BIG sponsor gain from selling the list? A big sponsor would NEVER sell their webDB (well, not the retarded onces).

Bump for 100% correct analysis.