most americans are just plain stupid.

I voted for Bush both times and would vote for him again. I shudder to think what would have happened if we had put a lunatic leftist traitor like John Kerry in office. The Democrats are in the pocket of the Move On/Michael Moore left. I would rather put a trained chimp in office (insert Bush = chimp joke here) than those fucking scumbag traitors.

Please some explain, rationally, this paranoia about the gov't "taking away your guns"?

No, don't bother ... I'll never understand it unless I was born in America, but one easier question, perhaps:

Honestly, would any of you vote - or not vote - for a candidate based (almost) solely on his 2nd amendment position?

agreed. Anyone who voted for Kerry shouldn't be attempting to make fun of anyone else's vote.

Kerry just didn't have it. So many sheep blindly voted for him without him having to even explain any of his "plans".


Dont get me started on Gore. Can you believe he was that close to being president of the United States. I'm glad to global warming people have him now, I'm tired of hearing about that. He is sure to kill that cause.

there are more than two canidates

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okay so I should have read the response before I posted that...throwing a way a vote? Well, two elections ago votes for a third party canidate decided the election.

Plus, there is something to be said for voting with your beliefs (even if I disagree with them) and having your voice heard. I find it lazy not to vote. As an American living abroad you should see what I have to go through to vote and most anyone that lives there has to do is go to the local school and spent two minutes in a booth.

Doesn't matter who you put in office, you're going to take it dry in the backdoor. Politicians are politicans no matter what 'party' they claim to represent.

Bush is a bumbling idiot which is wholy obvious based on his actions and popularity. I couldn't comment on how Kerry would do in the same situation because he's not in it. Anyone can sit around and armchair quarterback how their team would have done a better job.

its part of who we are as americans. You can't understand it because its as mystical as our ability to always succeed.

yes I would but generally if a candidate is against the second amendment, he has plenty other leftist positions that would make him equally distasteful

I will repeat a line from the Clinton Campaign for those of you out of diapers. " Are you better off today than you were six years ago?"

Instead of a talking about blow jobs in the White House we have
1. Wars in two countries and a third in the wings.
2. Higher interest rates, higher inflation, higher fuel prices
3. The the dollar is worth about 60% of what is was against other currencies
4. Indivdual freedoms are being nibbled away
5. The national debt is growing
6. There are fewer jobs that pay more than minimum wage
7. For the first time in history the government wants to add a constitutional amendment reducing human rights (anti gay marriage) whats next, no interracial marriage?

I have not had my coffee yet but I suspect many of you can add to this list of the good things Bush has brought to America.

50.......... :)

I didn't... i'm not from that country :)

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how silly.
I always have to laugh at how people point to clinton as how things should be done.
Imagine what this country would look like if Gore would have won in 2000.
we'd be taxing our way out of the stock market crash and still negotiating with afghanistan while saddam continued to rebuild his power with the billions he earned in oil for food scam.

oh, and I don't know what you do probono but I hope its design and not law. giving clinton a pass for lying under oath is magically ok as long as its done by a Dem, eh?

My degree is in Law and you did not respond to a single issue I stated.

and one silly factoid about Al Gore, if he had not been the champion for funding the Internet we would likely not have this forum to post in. Al Gore did not invent the Internet but he made sure it had seed capital.

"We respect the individual conscience of every American on the painful issue of abortion, but believe as a matter of law that this decision should be left to a woman, her conscience, her doctor, and her God. But abortion should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare. That's why I helped to establish and support a national effort to reduce out-of-wedlock teen pregnancy. And that is why we must promote adoption."

"We are fighting terrorism on all fronts with a three-prong strategy. First, we are working to rally a world coalition with zero tolerance for terrorism. Just this month I signed a law imposing harsh sanctions on foreign companies that invest in key sectors of the Iranian and Libyan economies. As long as Iran trains, supports, and protects terrorists, as long as Libya refuses to give up the people who blew up Pan Am 103, they will pay a price from the United States.

Second, we must give law enforcement the tools they need to take the fight to terrorists. We need new laws to crack down on money laundering and to prosecute and punish those who commit violent acts against American citizens abroad; to add chemical markers or taggants to gunpowder used in bombs so we can track the bomb-makers; to extend the same power police now have against organized crime to save lives by tapping all the phones that terrorists use. Terrorists are as big a threat to our future, perhaps bigger, than organized crime. Why should we have two different standards for a common threat to the safety of America and our children?

We need, in short, the laws that Congress refused to pass. And I ask them again: Please, as an American, not a partisan matter, pass these laws now.

Third, we will improve airport and air travel security. I have asked the Vice President to establish a commission and report back to me on ways to do this. But now we will install the most sophisticated bomb-detection equipment in all our major airports. We will search every airplane flying to or from America from another nation -- every flight, every cargo hold, every cabin, every time."


Too bad the Republicans controlled Congress back then too, and wouldnt support the wiretapping laws to catch suspected terrorists, or improve airport security. Pretty sad when a president has to beg congress to stop being partisan babies and pass some laws to protect America.

Also, I dont see where a woman could find fault with the sentiments expressed on abortion. (wedge issue, pulled out near election time to polarize people as if one particular party should decide what you do with your body anyway blah blah blah falls on deaf ears.) carry on.

you're kidding, right?

9/11, internet bubble bursting. to anyone with a brain, those are the responses you need when people talk about the rosey clinton years.

since you have access to these silly factoids, how about giving us a link so we can all applaud him?

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Vote for the Libertarian Party so we can get this country back to a Constitutional Republic like it started out.

I'd argue with you about "always" succeeding, but point taken.

I know enough about US history to understand the gun obsession, but damn if you could just see what it's like to live in a place where every home doesn't have a magnum, uzi or rocket launcher and somehow we survive. The ghetto people haven't risen up and taken over and the number of gun-related deaths is tiny compared to yours (and we still have very few home invasions - it's exceedingly rare).

But hey, it's your right so ... you reap what you sow.

i can guarentee that the govenor of Maryland wouldn't want you campaigning for them if they knew what you did.

Oh Bob loves me. Met him. He knows what I do.

Ok I didnt call him Bob but I did meet him and he does know what I do.

Great guy.

http://www.bobehrlich.com/

Ehrlich for 2008!

But you havent lived until you have taken a 44 to a pumpkin!

**insert evil laugh here** :1orglaugh

And come onnnn... how hot is this?

http://www.eroticneighbor.com/myspace/logo001.jpg

Here in America, uzis and rocket launchers are illegal and we have a clear understanding what Magnum means. :winkwink:
Besides, most gun deaths in America are ghetto on ghetto violence. I'm not willing to give up my right of gun ownership to keep the criminals from killing each other.

besides that, most Americans have that, home/homeland defense notion that should we ever be attacked, we'll rise up against any foe.
you can't do that with just your dick in your hand.:winkwink:

I'm glad Republicans favor lower government spending. Can you imagine how much money the Bush administration would have spent if they didn't practice fiscal conservatism? Slick Willie was getting blowjobs and running the government with a budget surplus.

Thank God that the Republicans don't want a centralized government. Can you imagine how far up our ass the FBI and CIA would be if they didn't?

Yeah, that lunatic traitor John Kerry served in a war he did not support instead of hiding in the National Guard at home like he could have. Can you imagine a scumbag like that running our government?

He never does ... that is why he is 12Shits....

as I said

Some people are talking sense here. Some are... not. We will each of us decide for ourselves who is who... but talking politics on a business board is just crazy. It's bad for business. There are plenty of political blogs for this sort of thing. Most give a forum for opinions that won't fuck up your business by offending affiliates with opposing views. Finally, you'll never convince anyone of anything here (or elsehwere online, IMHO).

Me likes Amy's thinking. Though I do like Bush, and no I dont regret in the least voting for him twice. :thumbsup

You are part of the problem.

Bleh ... and you are being redundant.

I am not part of the problem :) It isnt like I was being lazy and not voting.

Amy is a confirmed idiot when it comes to politics.

Probono, don't waste your breath, 12clicks is not now, nor has he ever been, smart enough to respond with facts. He responds with insults.

Case in point, he takes the first line of your post, which wasn't even pertinent to the content of the rest of your post, and uses it to ignore the pertinent points.

Sorry 12clicks, don't have time to play with you today, only had enough time to laugh at your total lack of knowledge.

9/11 happened because Bush was asleep at the wheel. Or drunk. Or praying. Or the Saudis told him to shut the fuck up and take it.

Republicans are busy centralizing power under one Alfred E. Neumann figurehead right now, and he's doing a smashing job isn't he? Love these unnecessary wars, terrorist attacks, gas prices, warrantless spying. A real freedom-lover, this guy.

It's ok to kill fully grown people Amy, but not a collection of cells? Nice.

How the FUCK did you people ever manage to seize power in this country?

oh yeah... Diebold.

And you are a complete idiot for making that statement.

I never told you my stand on that. You never asked. You just ASSumed.

It's just this hard to look it up: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ternet+funding

You really ARE a brick wall Ronny! :1orglaugh