Iraq Less Violent than Washington, D.C! - GoFuckYourself.com

american pervert · 05-30-2006, 03:52 PM

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...706.shtml?s=ic

Despite media coverage purporting to show that escalating violence in Iraq has the country spiraling out of control, civilian death statistics complied by Rep. Steve King, R-IA, indicate that Iraq actually has a lower civilian violent death rate than Washington, D.C.

Appearing with Westwood One radio host Monica Crowley on Saturday, King said that the incessantly negative coverage of the Iraq war prompted him to research the actual death numbers.

"I began to ask myself the question, if you were a civilian in Iraq, how could you tolerate that level of violence," he said. "What really is the level of violence?"

Using Pentagon statistics cross-checked with independent research, King said he came up with an annualized Iraqi civilian death rate of 27.51 per 100,000.

While that number sounds high - astonishingly, the Iowa Republican discovered that it's significantly lower than a number of major American cities, including the nation's capital.

"It's 45 violent deaths per 100,000 in Washington, D.C.," King told Crowley.

Other American cities with higher violent civilian death rates than Iraq include:

# Detroit - 41.8 per 100,000

# Baltimore - 37.7 per 100,000

# Atlanta - 34.9 per 100,000

# St. Louis - 31.4 per 100,000

The American city with the highest civilian death rate was New Orleans before Katrina - with a staggering 53.1 deaths per 100,000 - almost twice the death rate in Iraq.

After Shock Media · 05-30-2006, 03:54 PM

And the chance of me getting blown up by a road side bomb are?

iTEAM · 05-30-2006, 03:55 PM

Not suprising

Rochard · 05-30-2006, 03:55 PM

I'm not fond of Bush, but man the press attacks him unfairly. Every one talks about how bad it is in Iraq, yet my Marine buddies who email me from Iraq tell me everything is fine there and while they keep a high level of security, otherwise they surely aren't living in fear.

american pervert · 05-30-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm not fond of Bush, but man the press attacks him unfairly. Every one talks about how bad it is in Iraq, yet my Marine buddies who email me from Iraq tell me everything is fine there and while they keep a high level of security, otherwise they surely aren't living in fear.

my mom was in the green zone for 6 months as a civilian and was fine. even when she flew to job sites she was ok. she said you get used to the car bombs going off after a while

Michaelious · 05-30-2006, 04:16 PM

how can you get used to it?

american pervert · 05-30-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Michaelious

how can you get used to it?

its like living next to rail road tracks, after a while you phaze it out..

sacX · 05-30-2006, 04:38 PM

I'd like to see the original numbers how this rate was constructed. It doesn't sound right.

sacX · 05-30-2006, 04:41 PM

couple of thoughts, no doubt the rate is for the whole country. Large areas are relatively stable, but how about comparing Baghdad and Washington DC.

Also obviously it excludes the new Iraqi army and probably the police from those figures, a lot of these people were civilians just a few months ago.

Splum · 05-30-2006, 04:52 PM

Anyone with a brain knows that Iraq isnt as bad as the press paints it out to be, but the press has a political agenda, on both sides of course.

Barefootsies · 05-30-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...706.shtml?s=ic

Despite media coverage purporting to show that escalating violence in Iraq has the country spiraling out of control, civilian death statistics complied by Rep. Steve King, R-IA, indicate that Iraq actually has a lower civilian violent death rate than Washington, D.C.

Appearing with Westwood One radio host Monica Crowley on Saturday, King said that the incessantly negative coverage of the Iraq war prompted him to research the actual death numbers.

"I began to ask myself the question, if you were a civilian in Iraq, how could you tolerate that level of violence," he said. "What really is the level of violence?"

Using Pentagon statistics cross-checked with independent research, King said he came up with an annualized Iraqi civilian death rate of 27.51 per 100,000.

While that number sounds high - astonishingly, the Iowa Republican discovered that it's significantly lower than a number of major American cities, including the nation's capital.

"It's 45 violent deaths per 100,000 in Washington, D.C.," King told Crowley.

Other American cities with higher violent civilian death rates than Iraq include:

# Detroit - 41.8 per 100,000

# Baltimore - 37.7 per 100,000

# Atlanta - 34.9 per 100,000

# St. Louis - 31.4 per 100,000

The American city with the highest civilian death rate was New Orleans before Katrina - with a staggering 53.1 deaths per 100,000 - almost twice the death rate in Iraq.

minusonebit · 05-30-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...706.shtml?s=ic

I stopped reading after I saw that part.

MrJackMeHoff · 05-30-2006, 05:29 PM

BULLSHIT

Niklas · 05-30-2006, 05:30 PM

Sound pretty retarded to compara an entire country's death rate to single cities.

directfiesta · 05-30-2006, 06:11 PM

It is even less than Dixie Road in Dade county..... drive-by shootings...

Iraq is fine ... Tell that to the 2500 US soldiers ( well no, to their families ) and to the 50 iraqis that die DAILY ....

What a fuck up !

And Afghhanistan is picking up.. In 5 - 6 years, your puppet dictator will be kicked out in exile, and the Talibans will be back in force ... just a repeat of Iran and all you other implants ...

SmokeyTheBear · 05-30-2006, 09:20 PM

i have never heard of 20 people dying from a car bomb EVER in d.c. this stat is bullshit.. the type/nature/victims of the violence is MUCH different in washington than in iraq

Rochard · 05-30-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i have never heard of 20 people dying from a car bomb EVER in d.c. this stat is bullshit.. the type/nature/victims of the violence is MUCH different in washington than in iraq

No, I've never heard of a car bomb going off in Washington DC. However, I surely don't hear about how twenty gang bangers got killed in fourteen different incidents in the past twenty-four hours in Washington DC either.

thebossxxx · 06-04-2006, 09:49 PM

I believe it! Cities in South America like Caracas and Cali have murder rates like 10x worse than these U.S. cities!

spunkmaster · 06-04-2006, 10:26 PM

"Iraq is fine ... Tell that to the 2500 US soldiers ( well no, to their families ) and to the 50 iraqis that die DAILY ...."

Way more (military) then this die in the US each year from sucides and accidents so this number is being fed to you by the press with the body counts since about 100 or so three years ago.

Add to this the fact that 100% of our military are paid to fight anywhere they are told to fight and also 100% volunteered for it !

CheeseFrog · 06-04-2006, 10:40 PM

That's because all the civilians in Iraq from coalition nations are guarded by guys with machine guns. And all the Iraq civilians are considered "insurgents" so their deaths don't figure into that number.

mardigras · 06-04-2006, 10:47 PM

This BS might have been true the first thousand times it was posted over 2 years ago before the insurgency had geared up.

If you believe what has happened in recent months in Iraq is in any way comparable with Washington DC you are a certified loon.

High Plains Drifter · 06-04-2006, 11:19 PM

Do a search and you'll see the numbers are wrong. Hell just crunch the numbers from iraqibodycount.org and you'll see they're way off.

potter · 06-04-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sacX

couple of thoughts, no doubt the rate is for the whole country. Large areas are relatively stable, but how about comparing Baghdad and Washington DC.

Also obviously it excludes the new Iraqi army and probably the police from those figures, a lot of these people were civilians just a few months ago.

Paul · 06-05-2006, 06:21 PM

lol what a load of bullshit, I didn't realize D.C was in the middle of a civil war !

06-05-2006, 06:25 PM

This is why when I hear statistics and Iowa, I stop listening.

High Plains Drifter · 06-05-2006, 06:27 PM

"According to the Brookings Institute, the annualized murder rate for Baghdad last year was 95 per 100,000 people. Brookings notes that these numbers may be low, since hahaha8220;many murder victims are never taken to the morgue.hahaha8221;

"The King report uses 2002 data for Washington, D.C., finding a violent casualty rate of 45.9 deaths per 100,000 people. That number is badly outdated. Using the most recent 2004 data, the violent casualty rate in D.C. is 35.8 deaths per 100,000."

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

kane · 06-05-2006, 06:45 PM

Last time I checked Washington D.C. or for that matter any US city you want to use to prove a point doesn't have 1000's of armed soldiers standing on the street corners keeping the peace. The reason most of Iraq is stable is because we have these troops there and the isurgents are only strong enough to hit certain areas so the focus their attacts. Take of these soldiers out of the country and then tell me how peaceful it is.

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american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,834	Iraq Less Violent than Washington, D.C! http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...706.shtml?s=ic Despite media coverage purporting to show that escalating violence in Iraq has the country spiraling out of control, civilian death statistics complied by Rep. Steve King, R-IA, indicate that Iraq actually has a lower civilian violent death rate than Washington, D.C. Appearing with Westwood One radio host Monica Crowley on Saturday, King said that the incessantly negative coverage of the Iraq war prompted him to research the actual death numbers. "I began to ask myself the question, if you were a civilian in Iraq, how could you tolerate that level of violence," he said. "What really is the level of violence?" Using Pentagon statistics cross-checked with independent research, King said he came up with an annualized Iraqi civilian death rate of 27.51 per 100,000. While that number sounds high - astonishingly, the Iowa Republican discovered that it's significantly lower than a number of major American cities, including the nation's capital. "It's 45 violent deaths per 100,000 in Washington, D.C.," King told Crowley. Other American cities with higher violent civilian death rates than Iraq include: # Detroit - 41.8 per 100,000 # Baltimore - 37.7 per 100,000 # Atlanta - 34.9 per 100,000 # St. Louis - 31.4 per 100,000 The American city with the highest civilian death rate was New Orleans before Katrina - with a staggering 53.1 deaths per 100,000 - almost twice the death rate in Iraq. __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

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05-30-2006, 04:41 PM	#9
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	couple of thoughts, no doubt the rate is for the whole country. Large areas are relatively stable, but how about comparing Baghdad and Washington DC. Also obviously it excludes the new Iraqi army and probably the police from those figures, a lot of these people were civilians just a few months ago. __________________ Have Asian Language Traffic?

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Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Anyone with a brain knows that Iraq isnt as bad as the press paints it out to be, but the press has a political agenda, on both sides of course.

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,916	It is even less than Dixie Road in Dade county..... drive-by shootings... Iraq is fine ... Tell that to the 2500 US soldiers ( well no, to their families ) and to the 50 iraqis that die DAILY .... What a fuck up ! And Afghhanistan is picking up.. In 5 - 6 years, your puppet dictator will be kicked out in exile, and the Talibans will be back in force ... just a repeat of Iran and all you other implants ... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i have never heard of 20 people dying from a car bomb EVER in d.c. this stat is bullshit.. the type/nature/victims of the violence is MUCH different in washington than in iraq __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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thebossxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,209	I believe it! Cities in South America like Caracas and Cali have murder rates like 10x worse than these U.S. cities! __________________ www.IncredibleDollars.com $50 PPS w/Trials 60% *Rev Share 60% w/no Pre checked cross sales! & and If pre checks are crossed you get $50 bucks! www.IncredibePass.com www.TitsandAssPass.com 100% Exclusive content guarenteed! Glenn at Incredible dollars dot com Our Best Converting sites: BTCA, Hot60Plus HairyNaturalGirls Sororitysistas, Sweetyurizan, Bbwdepot Blackbootyinvasion AriaValentino BigBoobsfatBooty UnivesrityBubbleButts Momsacheater Arabstreethookers whitecicksinblackchicks AsianchicksAmericanDicks

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spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	"Iraq is fine ... Tell that to the 2500 US soldiers ( well no, to their families ) and to the 50 iraqis that die DAILY ...." Way more (military) then this die in the US each year from sucides and accidents so this number is being fed to you by the press with the body counts since about 100 or so three years ago. Add to this the fact that 100% of our military are paid to fight anywhere they are told to fight and also 100% volunteered for it ! __________________

06-04-2006, 10:40 PM	#20
CheeseFrog Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 1,724	That's because all the civilians in Iraq from coalition nations are guarded by guys with machine guns. And all the Iraq civilians are considered "insurgents" so their deaths don't figure into that number. __________________ Cary \| AIM: cheesefrog \| ICQ: 4287002

06-04-2006, 10:47 PM	#21
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	This BS might have been true the first thousand times it was posted over 2 years ago before the insurgency had geared up. If you believe what has happened in recent months in Iraq is in any way comparable with Washington DC you are a certified loon.

06-04-2006, 11:19 PM	#22
High Plains Drifter Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ♠ ♣ ♥ Posts: 2,341	Do a search and you'll see the numbers are wrong. Hell just crunch the numbers from iraqibodycount.org and you'll see they're way off.

06-05-2006, 06:21 PM	#24
Paul Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,637	lol what a load of bullshit, I didn't realize D.C was in the middle of a civil war !

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esnem Guest Posts: n/a	This is why when I hear statistics and Iowa, I stop listening.

06-05-2006, 06:27 PM	#26
High Plains Drifter Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ♠ ♣ ♥ Posts: 2,341	"According to the Brookings Institute, the annualized murder rate for Baghdad last year was 95 per 100,000 people. Brookings notes that these numbers may be low, since hahaha8220;many murder victims are never taken to the morgue.hahaha8221; "The King report uses 2002 data for Washington, D.C., finding a violent casualty rate of 45.9 deaths per 100,000 people. That number is badly outdated. Using the most recent 2004 data, the violent casualty rate in D.C. is 35.8 deaths per 100,000."

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Last time I checked Washington D.C. or for that matter any US city you want to use to prove a point doesn't have 1000's of armed soldiers standing on the street corners keeping the peace. The reason most of Iraq is stable is because we have these troops there and the isurgents are only strong enough to hit certain areas so the focus their attacts. Take of these soldiers out of the country and then tell me how peaceful it is.