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woj · 06-04-2006, 12:19 PM

Cincuenta!.........,.

leg4 · 06-04-2006, 12:23 PM

u guys must be skimpin' on the cards.... we have a 3- 60gig cards

enuff for about 12 hours of video in HD (hdv)

The cards are cheap... (in comparison)

JimmyStephans · 06-04-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

They have 8 gig cards now too, I like the fact I can choose what I want to shoot. HD or regular mini DV. I looked at the Sony and even though it is a lot cheaper, it's HD all the way through no choice.

Which Sony was that? I've been looking at the FX1 and HVR-Z1U and I thought they both would move back and forth between SD and HD

Sebastian Sands · 06-04-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by leg4

u guys must be skimpin' on the cards.... we have a 3- 60gig cards

enuff for about 12 hours of video in HD (hdv)

The cards are cheap... (in comparison)

What did you pay for the 60 gig cards? Are they P2 cards? As far as I knew 8 gig was the biggest they had so far.

Mr Cheeks · 06-04-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

You have got to be kidding me Tony. How much video have you shot with either of those 2 cameras? I'm curious, seriously, how much HDV (or even SD) footage have you shot, dumped, and edited, and released for viewing in the last 6 months?

To say the Z1 is "garbage" compared to that or ANY other camera currently available for less than $10k has got to be a joke.

If your argument is for web use I can almost understand where you're coming from. I know for months you have been knocking HDV cameras and the viability of the content for web use, but come on man, get with the times. Those $700.00 cameras people buy from Best Buy or ChumpUSA that tout HDV "capabilities" and "life-like 24p" shooting mode, those are nothing like the professional level Sony models out for purchase now.

The Z1 is equal to or better than the Panny shown above, and that comes from someone who has actually used both, and prefers the Sony for many, many reasons.

dawg, no offense but you have no fucken idea what you´re talking about. how could possibly compare DVCPRO and HDV, and actually conclude that HDV is better? comparing the HVX to the Z1 is like comparing a M3 to a ford escort. 4:2:2 color space alone makes the whole difference. there is absolutely no amount of color correction in the world you can do to HDV footage, to make it remotely look like DVCPRO 50 or 100 footage.
HDV has so much compression artifacts to it, that is pretty much renders it shitty on output. you cannot try to squeeze HD footage on 25mbs DV tape without hella compression. compression simlply equals bad!

i would write more but i´m in brazil havin a good time. don´t be silly man. the Panny blows the fuckin Z1 no doubt. 4:2:2 vs 4:1:1 nothing to compare

i own both cams by the way. the Panny will change the way people shoot and think. want a tipo? don´t buy 8 gig cards. buy 4 gig cards, shot in 720pN (native) to get more footage on the cards. burn your 4 gig cards onto a single 4.5 gig DVD for backups/archive. works beatiful.

Mr Cheeks · 06-04-2006, 02:12 PM

oh and yes, i am shooting with the HVX down here in brazil. shot with it in LA (3 day short) before i left to get a hang of it, as far as work flow (dumping P2 cards to my powerbook and stuff). if you´re using PC laptop, you can actually view the footage right away with the P2 Viewer from panasonic.

this cam is the bomb man.
- no more tape capture.
- review clips through thumbs on camera (no more rewind, forward shit).
- 4:2:2 color sampling.
- your CPU does not choke when editing (compared to HDV). nobody shoots 1080 anyways. it´s all about 720p. and 720p DVCPRO footage just looks so fucking good, even projected.
- too many too list. but you have to actually work with the cam to realize the fundamental shift.

aight man. let me stop jackin off with the panny. i´m out

Cole Montana · 06-04-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash

How much does it cost? Isn't it too expensive? A $800 digital mini-DVD camcorder can also do the job ... Is it for professional use or for amateur/family use?

One thing that people seem to be missing is the quality of lens. You can pick up a HDV cam for around $1000-$2000 but you lack the 3ccd lenses. That's where a lot of people go wrong. You sacrifice the quality. Sony's HDR-FX1 has both, and it will shoot HD or DV. You can shoot either or, depending on your consumer/client. I'm having to sell my GL2 so that I can pick up the extra work, and I'm ok with that.

And there is such thing as over doing it, if you got the $8,000 or so to pick up the Pani, then great, but most producers in "pornland" don't have that budget, at least not this guy. $3,500 is much easier to come up with than $7-$8 grand. That extra $$ can be put to locations, backdrops, better quality talent, accessories, etc.

Just my little input....

Cole Montana · 06-04-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash

How much does it cost? Isn't it too expensive? A $800 digital mini-DVD camcorder can also do the job ... Is it for professional use or for amateur/family use?

One thing that people seem to be missing is the quality of lens. You can pick up a HDV cam for around $1000-$2000 but you lack the 3ccd lenses. That's where a lot of people go wrong. You sacrifice the quality. Sony's HDR-FX1 has both, and it will shoot HD or DV. You can shoot either or, depending on your consumer/client. I'm having to sell my GL2 so that I can pick up the extra work, and I'm ok with that.

And there is such thing as over doing it, if you got the $8,000 or so to pick up the Pani, then great, but most producers in "pornland" don't have that budget, at least not this guy. $3,500 is much easier to come up with than $7-$8 grand. That extra $$ can be put to locations, backdrops, better quality talent, accessories, etc.

Just my little input....

Sebastian Sands · 06-04-2006, 04:19 PM

Maybe I should mention that I not just shoot adult, I do some mainstream video work as well. Not as often as I would like but enough to consider this camera and offer clients every option possible.

Sebastian Sands · 06-05-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4

u guys must be skimpin' on the cards.... we have a 3- 60gig cards

enuff for about 12 hours of video in HD (hdv)

The cards are cheap... (in comparison)

What did you pay for the 60 gig cards? Are they P2 cards? As far as I knew 8 gig was the biggest they had so far.
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BluewireAngie · 06-05-2006, 12:18 PM

Cool cam!!!

Sebastian Sands · 06-30-2006, 02:55 PM

It just got delivered. The battery is charging right now. Can't wait to start shooting with it.

Relish XXX · 06-30-2006, 04:15 PM

I shoot well over 300 minutes each day. Yes the process of putting it from DV to PC pisses me off, but fuck having to keep changing cards.

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-30-2006, 04:20 PM

That's top notch

I have the dvx100B, 24p is good for film quality look, but not for porn.

I'd say it could be the best HD camera out there because it actually has 24p HD, can't get any better.

Sebastian Sands · 06-30-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I shoot well over 300 minutes each day. Yes the process of putting it from DV to PC pisses me off, but fuck having to keep changing cards.

Dude if you seriously shoot that much then you can simply get the external 100 gig drive you can put on your belt. Great solution. I think it will all go tapeless in the future, I do like the fact I can still shoot Mini DV as well

Sebastian

Relish XXX · 06-30-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

Dude if you seriously shoot that much then you can simply get the external 100 gig drive you can put on your belt. Great solution. I think it will all go tapeless in the future, I do like the fact I can still shoot Mini DV as well

Sebastian

I always believe more is better. Yes it is a bitch to edit down but I would rather have something I dont need than not having something I need. I agree with you that tape will be dead very soon.

tony286 · 06-30-2006, 09:06 PM

http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/hvxbook/
he wrote the bible for the dvx100

shekinah · 06-30-2006, 09:11 PM

Nice video cam!

L-Pink · 06-30-2006, 09:32 PM

Backups!

Mini-dv gives you a real life back-up once you have downloaded your footage.

Also how reliable are those discs? The ones for my Nikon fuckup all the time.

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06-30-2006, 04:15 PM	#63
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06-30-2006, 04:20 PM	#64
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	That's top notch I have the dvx100B, 24p is good for film quality look, but not for porn. I'd say it could be the best HD camera out there because it actually has 24p HD, can't get any better. __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

06-04-2006, 02:12 PM	#56
Mr Cheeks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 901	oh and yes, i am shooting with the HVX down here in brazil. shot with it in LA (3 day short) before i left to get a hang of it, as far as work flow (dumping P2 cards to my powerbook and stuff). if you´re using PC laptop, you can actually view the footage right away with the P2 Viewer from panasonic. this cam is the bomb man. - no more tape capture. - review clips through thumbs on camera (no more rewind, forward shit). - 4:2:2 color sampling. - your CPU does not choke when editing (compared to HDV). nobody shoots 1080 anyways. it´s all about 720p. and 720p DVCPRO footage just looks so fucking good, even projected. - too many too list. but you have to actually work with the cam to realize the fundamental shift. aight man. let me stop jackin off with the panny. i´m out

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Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	Maybe I should mention that I not just shoot adult, I do some mainstream video work as well. Not as often as I would like but enough to consider this camera and offer clients every option possible.

06-30-2006, 02:55 PM	#62
Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	It just got delivered. The battery is charging right now. Can't wait to start shooting with it.

06-30-2006, 09:06 PM	#67
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06-30-2006, 09:32 PM	#69
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Backups! Mini-dv gives you a real life back-up once you have downloaded your footage. Also how reliable are those discs? The ones for my Nikon fuckup all the time.