How the u.s. govt stole the internet. - GoFuckYourself.com

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2006, 02:35 PM

Good read here about the recent news of the u.s. govt piping all information on the internet through its own secret secret rooms for its own collection and dissemination.

The article includes complete tech details and drawings of the theft , these are all under seal in california..

http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf

quite interesting to say the least..

I wonder if they phish for credit cards to fund illicit cia ops.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2006, 02:37 PM

---------------excerpt-----------

Another -8220;Cut-In and Test Procedure-8221; document dated January 24, 2003,
provides diagrams of how AT&T Core Network circuits were to be run through the
-8220;splitter-8221; cabinet (pdf 7). One page lists the circuit IDs of key Peering Links which were
h-;cut-in-; in February 2003 (pdf 8), including ConXion, Verio, XO, Genuity, Qwest,
PAIX, Allegiance, Abovenet, Global Crossing, C&W, UUNET, Level 3, Sprint, Telia,
PSINet, and Mae West. By the way, Mae West is one of two key Internet nodal points in
the United States (the other, Mae East, is in Vienna, Virginia). It's not just WorldNet
customers who are being spied on-;it's the entire Internet.
-----------------------------

2HousePlague · 05-27-2006, 02:43 PM

Well, they have all those plea-bargained hackers they arrested in the 80's slaving for them --

2hp

stickyfingerz · 05-27-2006, 02:44 PM

Ya they invented it, whats yo point?

czarina · 05-27-2006, 02:45 PM

I've always said it: the US gov. sucks. And with Bush in power, we're sh*t out of luck!

L0rdJuni0r · 05-27-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

I've always said it: the US gov. sucks. And with Bush in power, we're sh*t out of luck!

i agree. with bush in house we are fucked.

Pornwolf · 05-27-2006, 02:50 PM

They had to put Mitnick to work somehow I guess.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Ya they invented it, whats yo point?

humphrey davy invented the lightbulb, that doesnt mean i want his relatives stealing all my lightbulbs

KRL · 05-27-2006, 03:00 PM

Matt 26z · 05-27-2006, 03:19 PM

The government would love to know everything about us. The books you checked out at the library, what you bought at the hardware store, where you drove your car last week, but here in 2006 this isn't all possible.

Think of a time when everything in our daily lives goes through the internet in some way, everything. This early internet power grab by the government is just a guarantee that they will eventually have total information awareness.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-27-2006, 03:22 PM

I am still waiting for my chip implant.

pussyluver · 05-27-2006, 03:26 PM

Didn't read the article yet. Point is if you control the root nameservers you in the end own the Internet.

aico · 05-27-2006, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L0rdJuni0r

i agree. with bush in house we are fucked.

It's come to my attention that no one as stupid as Bush could possibly be in charge, he's just a pawn. I truly believe this.

2HousePlague · 05-27-2006, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I am still waiting for my chip implant.

Hit me up, I'll see what I can to get your appointment moved up.

2hp

pr0 · 05-27-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The government would love to know everything about us. The books you checked out at the library, what you bought at the hardware store, where you drove your car last week, but here in 2006 this isn't all possible.

Think of a time when everything in our daily lives goes through the internet in some way, everything. This early internet power grab by the government is just a guarantee that they will eventually have total information awareness.

Exactly what it is...a power grab.

And it will keep the republicans/their friends (or their puppets) in power forever.

I've been saying it for years.

Say goodbye to a 2 party system....with total information awarness...they will simply find the skeletons in their enemies closets, and lock them away forever.

aico · 05-27-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

humphrey davy invented the lightbulb, that doesnt mean i want his relatives stealing all my lightbulbs

Uh... no he didn't. Thomas Alva Edison invented the Light Bulb. Humphrey Davy invented the Safety Lamp.

pussyluver · 05-27-2006, 03:49 PM

Interesting read, but leaves a lot of open questions. Why would AT&T the utility itself be tied to using a passsive device like a splitter? Cost? I think not. What's one more port on a router or a repeater point within a NOC. A replicated signal in an active device wouldn't suffer a time or signal loss to the main communication.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2006, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Uh... no he didn't. Thomas Alva Edison invented the Light Bulb. Humphrey Davy invented the Safety Lamp.

sorry my mistake davy invented the electric light edison improved it and stuck it in a bulb.. either or , the point is the same.. Whoever invented it doesnt give them the right to steal the product from people later..

i.e.. ___________ Invented the lightbulb , that doesnt mean i want _________ relatives coming to my house and stealing my lights..

Fill in the name of the inventor of your choice.

czarina · 05-27-2006, 04:43 PM

The US us out to steal as much info as they can, and I am sure that it wont stop when this asshole leaves.

BusterBunny · 05-27-2006, 04:46 PM

al wants his cut or he is gonna kick some ass

Pornwolf · 05-27-2006, 04:48 PM

Nothing is private now a days. What's interesting is that the FBI, CIA, NSA and Treasury department have access to all the super secret spy stuff that knows everything about you and hears everything you say 24/7 but the local cops have to beg a judge for simple wires to tap a phone.

stickyfingerz · 05-27-2006, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L0rdJuni0r

i agree. with bush in house we are fucked.

Funny bandwagon people I love it.

Quagmire · 05-27-2006, 04:59 PM

Should we be surprised by this? Power brings paranoia, which means more spying. Its not just the Bush government, its ANY government. They all want to know what everyone else is thinking.

05-27-2006, 02:35 PM	#1
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	How the u.s. govt stole the internet. Good read here about the recent news of the u.s. govt piping all information on the internet through its own secret secret rooms for its own collection and dissemination. The article includes complete tech details and drawings of the theft , these are all under seal in california.. http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf quite interesting to say the least.. I wonder if they phish for credit cards to fund illicit cia ops. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	---------------excerpt----------- Another -8220;Cut-In and Test Procedure-8221; document dated January 24, 2003, provides diagrams of how AT&T Core Network circuits were to be run through the -8220;splitter-8221; cabinet (pdf 7). One page lists the circuit IDs of key Peering Links which were h-;cut-in-; in February 2003 (pdf 8), including ConXion, Verio, XO, Genuity, Qwest, PAIX, Allegiance, Abovenet, Global Crossing, C&W, UUNET, Level 3, Sprint, Telia, PSINet, and Mae West. By the way, Mae West is one of two key Internet nodal points in the United States (the other, Mae East, is in Vienna, Virginia). It's not just WorldNet customers who are being spied on-;it's the entire Internet. ----------------------------- __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 05-27-2006 at 02:38 PM..

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	The government would love to know everything about us. The books you checked out at the library, what you bought at the hardware store, where you drove your car last week, but here in 2006 this isn't all possible. Think of a time when everything in our daily lives goes through the internet in some way, everything. This early internet power grab by the government is just a guarantee that they will eventually have total information awareness.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Didn't read the article yet. Point is if you control the root nameservers you in the end own the Internet.

05-27-2006, 03:49 PM	#17
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Interesting read, but leaves a lot of open questions. Why would AT&T the utility itself be tied to using a passsive device like a splitter? Cost? I think not. What's one more port on a router or a repeater point within a NOC. A replicated signal in an active device wouldn't suffer a time or signal loss to the main communication.

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	The US us out to steal as much info as they can, and I am sure that it wont stop when this asshole leaves.

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Nothing is private now a days. What's interesting is that the FBI, CIA, NSA and Treasury department have access to all the super secret spy stuff that knows everything about you and hears everything you say 24/7 but the local cops have to beg a judge for simple wires to tap a phone. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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Quagmire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Stinkin' up your bathroom Posts: 6,490	Should we be surprised by this? Power brings paranoia, which means more spying. Its not just the Bush government, its ANY government. They all want to know what everyone else is thinking. __________________