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Old 05-23-2006, 07:39 PM   #1
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daily-hot-babes.com is a thief

Takes copyrighted feeds, hotlinks, removes affiliate codes and removes any links pointing to the site the feed was taken from.

Hmmmm....
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:51 PM   #2
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oh crap. hope he didn't change my link codes

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...0&postcount=19
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:53 PM   #3
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oh crap. hope he didn't change my link codes

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...0&postcount=19
He most likely did.
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:55 PM   #4
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The wonderful world of autoblogger pro. I quickly sold my domain and stopped using the software after getting c&d's from using copyrighted feeds. The website just made it sound like it wouldnt be a big deal

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chio is still cool imho, but the other guys running the site and software suck

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how can we stop this kind of situation? i would fucking hate using my feeds and alter it with their ref code. damn! thats fucking stealing!
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:58 PM   #6
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Don't forget that software has the cloak feature to appease the irate webmaster who had the text stolen, but still allow that information to be viewable by the se's.
A feature I think they should discontinue, but what do I know
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:59 PM   #7
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The wonderful world of autoblogger pro. I quickly sold my domain and stopped using the software after getting c&d's from using copyrighted feeds. The website just made it sound like it wouldnt be a big deal

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chio is still cool imho, but the other guys running the site and software suck
Ouch !
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Old 05-23-2006, 08:06 PM   #9
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The wonderful world of autoblogger pro. I quickly sold my domain and stopped using the software after getting c&d's from using copyrighted feeds. The website just made it sound like it wouldnt be a big deal

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chio is still cool imho, but the other guys running the site and software suck
All content is to be considered copyrighted unless it is clearly stated that that is not the case. Providing an RSS Feed changes nothing about that.

Of course, fair use is possible, but taking content whole, changing it and then altering it to suit commercial needs goes far beyond that.

Nothing wrong with using RSS feeds, but it's best to always request permission beforehand, and changing content and linking codes is never ok.

I'm surprised there are still people in this industry who do not "get" intellectual property...
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Don't forget that software has the cloak feature to appease the irate webmaster who had the text stolen, but still allow that information to be viewable by the se's.
A feature I think they should discontinue, but what do I know
A feature that should be pretty easy to get around and that should allow the site-owner being ripped off to get the thief to be banned by Google, dropped by his host and found guilty in court.
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Old 05-23-2006, 08:12 PM   #11
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I found another site using that autoblogger pro and stealing RSS feeds and changing out the affiliate codes to their own. What I use for my wordpress RSS feeds is this plugin http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/a...ss-atom-feeds/

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This plugin adds a copyright message to your feed items. No customization is required. This acts as a deterrant to feed-stealers (you heard the word first here) who unscrupulously and blatantly displays your full feed contents (often with their own advertisements) in their site(s) without your permission.
Not sure yet what to do about the cloaking though.
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hmmm, i bought it, but havent installed or used it yet, i wasn't going to do something like that with it anyway, but what about using it to make a site of various feeds based on a central keyword and leaving in refcodes and a link back to the original source?? anyone think that would be unethical?? it's for mainstream too, what i was thinking of using it for.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:21 PM   #15
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Don't forget that software has the cloak feature to appease the irate webmaster who had the text stolen, but still allow that information to be viewable by the se's.
A feature I think they should discontinue, but what do I know
I actually am removing that in the next version.
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Damn, there is a complete stealing shit going on...
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i have a question so how can you earn from feeds if you don't change the feeds ref code/links etc? oh yeah stupid question
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Old 05-23-2006, 11:00 PM   #19
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Nice. He's using a feed from my blog, too. Motherfucker!
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Old 05-23-2006, 11:06 PM   #20
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A feature that should be pretty easy to get around and that should allow the site-owner being ripped off to get the thief to be banned by Google, dropped by his host and found guilty in court.
would u be happy with a post like this?

see how i quoted u and didnt edit ur msg?
see how ur name is refered to the message you wrote?
see how i only commented after ur entire message was here?
i didnt need permission to do this.


http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

quote me, and i can tell u that by quoting MY message with YOUR sig (edit: if ur sig had an affiliate sponsor) in your post, that u are violating my copyrights since u are using my "work" for commercial purposes without my permission.

it gets more anal doesnt it?
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i have a question so how can you earn from feeds if you don't change the feeds ref code/links etc? oh yeah stupid question
Good question... I think the idea is that rss feeds are self-updating content that will bring you more SE traffic, therefore bringing more attention to YOUR ads on your site.

I don't use rss feeds so take it with a grain of salt.
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would u be happy with a post like this?

see how i quoted u and didnt edit ur msg?
see how ur name is refered to the message you wrote?
see how i only commented after ur entire message was here?
i didnt need permission to do this.


http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

quote me, and i can tell u that by quoting MY message with YOUR sig (edit: if ur sig had an affiliate sponsor) in your post, that u are violating my copyrights since u are using my "work" for commercial purposes without my permission.

it gets more anal doesnt it?
Are you trying to compare quoting message board posts to ripping all contents from a site, removing any reference to the author and his site, removing all advertising and replacing it with your own?

Oh, and bump.
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hmmm, i bought it, but havent installed or used it yet, i wasn't going to do something like that with it anyway, but what about using it to make a site of various feeds based on a central keyword and leaving in refcodes and a link back to the original source?? anyone think that would be unethical?? it's for mainstream too, what i was thinking of using it for.
I, for one, would have absolutely no problem with that. Sites doing that also benefit the sites they use feeds from, so everyone's a winner.

(although asking for permission first probably wouldn't hurt, though)
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I apologize for using rss feeds and deleting source link, changing referral codes. I'm new in blogging didnt know that its illegal and stealing someone content.

I know now that its stealing won't do it any more. I delte changing referral coes, add source. I'm very ashamed of what i did. I understand your reaction cause i will be also very pissed off if someone will steal my content...
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i think some of these spam blog thieves have a distorted view of fair use. is ripping a whole feed - with attribution or not - and changing the ref. code "fair use?"

are your uses for non-profit educational purposes? are you only using a partial amount? and does your use hurt the market value of the intellectual property?

for 99% of these spam blogs ther answer to the first 2 is no and the third is yes.

first the feds cracked down on spammers, now on spyware installs crap and in the future intellectual property thieves.

all it will take is a few mass media stories to break to throw law makers into a tizzy.

you all shit on guba, but are silent on this. funny that.
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hmmm, i bought it, but havent installed or used it yet, i wasn't going to do something like that with it anyway, but what about using it to make a site of various feeds based on a central keyword and leaving in refcodes and a link back to the original source?? anyone think that would be unethical?? it's for mainstream too, what i was thinking of using it for.
study the actual law and you'll find your answer:

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
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I apologize for using rss feeds and deleting source link, changing referral codes. I'm new in blogging didnt know that its illegal and stealing someone content.

I know now that its stealing won't do it any more. I delte changing referral coes, add source. I'm very ashamed of what i did. I understand your reaction cause i will be also very pissed off if someone will steal my content...
thats good to hear that you've changed your ways
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Good question... I think the idea is that rss feeds are self-updating content that will bring you more SE traffic, therefore bringing more attention to YOUR ads on your site.

I don't use rss feeds so take it with a grain of salt.
i made a question regarding this on another thread. dunno no one answer. if i change the refcodes to my own codes but gives them credit for the entry is it still stealing? this whole thing has a gray area.
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I apologize for using rss feeds and deleting source link, changing referral codes. I'm new in blogging didnt know that its illegal and stealing someone content.

I know now that its stealing won't do it any more. I delte changing referral coes, add source. I'm very ashamed of what i did. I understand your reaction cause i will be also very pissed off if someone will steal my content...
I really hope you tell the truth...
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I apologize for using rss feeds and deleting source link, changing referral codes. I'm new in blogging didnt know that its illegal and stealing someone content.

I know now that its stealing won't do it any more. I delte changing referral coes, add source. I'm very ashamed of what i did. I understand your reaction cause i will be also very pissed off if someone will steal my content...
ignorance to the law is no excuse. I hope someone sues you.
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i have a question so how can you earn from feeds if you don't change the feeds ref code/links etc? oh yeah stupid question
pretty easy - add your own real posts, banner and ads all over site, send traffic to your other sites, links to paysites etc
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I talked to him, explained the issues, he feels bad, removed all the rewrite stuff. He admitted it, apologized, get over it.

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Are you trying to compare quoting message board posts to ripping all contents from a site, removing any reference to the author and his site, removing all advertising and replacing it with your own?

Oh, and bump.
im just saying, its a delicate issue. I like to think that with proper referencing, that this matter wouldnt be such a debate.

like writing a thesis for example, you take from other credible source their point of view in order to portray your POV. Referencing is important and i think he should have at least gave u credit for the post. But If i was trying to portray a message, i would edit it as i see fit to get my message across. but then this would fall under interpretation.. and we all have our own opinion.

advertisements... i believe that if he was promoting the exact same sponsor, then i dont think thats fair. but if its to another similar sponsor.. then he is just providing to the readers what his beliefs are based on facts he took/refer from your site.

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I apologize for using rss feeds and deleting source link, changing referral codes. I'm new in blogging didnt know that its illegal and stealing someone content.

I know now that its stealing won't do it any more. I delte changing referral coes, add source. I'm very ashamed of what i did. I understand your reaction cause i will be also very pissed off if someone will steal my content...
Good decision. You made a mistake, but many newbies do. Just as long as you've learned from it.

Good luck with your site
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