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Old 05-23-2006, 09:52 AM   #1
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The history of dirty tactics.....

1st there was recurring billing.....everyone was cheated....

Then came the exit console!...fuck..am i getting paid for that??

then came the circle jerk....keep sending the surfers around until they are dizzy....surfers are getting cheated....

then came dialers.....shit..affiliates AND surfers are getting cheated....

Lets not forget SPAM....

Then the TGP blind links and traffic "shaving"..sending surfers to places they did not intend to go...

then came spyware...fuck...now everyone is getting cheated....

I am sure i am leaving may things out....

If i had a nickel for everytime i heard some affiliate pissing about something they though wad "dirty" i would not have to work in this industry anymore....

once someone gets the installer perfected...you will ALL be promoting it.....

Ever try to cancel an AOL subscription??

fucking laughable....
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:54 AM   #2
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:55 AM   #3
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Jim, are you saying this Moviepass Ransomware is acceptable and supported or is it a "dirty tactic"?
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I conclude that you guys would have no moral dillema shaving your affiliates.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:58 AM   #6
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I conclude that you guys would have no moral dillema shaving your affiliates.

we do shave wtf is your point?

morals in the porn industry?

are you high?
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:59 AM   #7
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we do shave wtf is your point?

morals in the porn industry?

are you high?
careful... someone might take you seriously
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:02 AM   #8
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:03 AM   #9
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Jim, are you saying this Moviepass Ransomware is acceptable and supported or is it a "dirty tactic"?
good question
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:05 AM   #10
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we do shave wtf is your point?

morals in the porn industry?

are you high?
My point is Jim did not mention it.
I think you should put in in your tos and on your main page.
You can grin later when it comes out saying
" Hey I even said it myself on gfy, it says so on the main page and I have it in the tos so stop talking class action. Nobody took me serious though cause they all knew I was an asshole. So thank you all for your money."

I bet that is worth some laughs!
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:11 AM   #11
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My point is Jim did not mention it.
I think you should put in in your tos and on your main page.
You can grin later when it comes out saying
" Hey I even said it myself on gfy, it says so on the main page and I have it in the tos so stop talking class action. Nobody took me serious though cause they all knew I was an asshole. So thank you all for your money."

I bet that is worth some laughs!
haha actually it is


if you only knew how dirty i was
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:12 AM   #12
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Jim, are you saying this Moviepass Ransomware is acceptable and supported or is it a "dirty tactic"?
I'm still waiting for someone to answer this question
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:13 AM   #13
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Jim, are you saying this Moviepass Ransomware is acceptable and supported or is it a "dirty tactic"?
i am saying many of the things in this post were once considered dirty tactics...
if you think that this is the reason people hate porn sites....and not the fact that they are just PORN SITES..then you are living in dreamland....

If you think that for one minute we are not hated for what we do....and NOT just the way we do it...that is the problem....you can sit here and legitimize being a pornographer all day...but in the end...most of you lie about what you do...when in the presence of "normal" people..because you are afraid of what they may think...

I would love to know how many "internet marketing consultants" surf GFY daily...hahaha

The government does not hate us for spyware or spam or anything else....they hate us because we are pronographers.....the sooner you idiots get that through your heads the better off you will be.....no one in this industry is guaranteed ANY type of shelflife...spyware or not...

The smart ones are just the ones who make their $$ and move on to other things.....

And we are making more $$ for the affiliates that send us traffic all the time....
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:13 AM   #14
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haha actually it is


if you only knew how dirty i was

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Old 05-23-2006, 10:14 AM   #15
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:16 AM   #16
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The smart ones are just the ones who make their $$ and move on to other things.....

And we are making more $$ for the affiliates that send us traffic all the time....
What about actually developing great sites with good content, reinvesting a significant portion back into providing great content and keeping members for longer than 1 month? Is that a losting prospect for a paysite owner today? I'm not saying it's easy.. but is it just more rewarding to throw up the minimum and use all the processing tricks possible to get as much as you can up front even if it's deceptive.. and fuck the members?
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:21 AM   #17
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i am saying many of the things in this post were once considered dirty tactics...
if you think that this is the reason people hate porn sites....and not the fact that they are just PORN SITES..then you are living in dreamland....

If you think that for one minute we are not hated for what we do....and NOT just the way we do it...that is the problem....you can sit here and legitimize being a pornographer all day...but in the end...most of you lie about what you do...when in the presence of "normal" people..because you are afraid of what they may think...

I would love to know how many "internet marketing consultants" surf GFY daily...hahaha

The government does not hate us for spyware or spam or anything else....they hate us because we are pronographers.....the sooner you idiots get that through your heads the better off you will be.....no one in this industry is guaranteed ANY type of shelflife...spyware or not...

The smart ones are just the ones who make their $$ and move on to other things.....

And we are making more $$ for the affiliates that send us traffic all the time....

You didn't answer the question.

Now then, according to this response, what are you saying? That just because people hate you for being a pornographer then it's ok to be a real POS and do whatever it takes to screw them over just so you can make a quick buck and move on? Would you WANT someone tricking you or installing shit on your PC?
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:24 AM   #18
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You didn't answer the question.

Now then, according to this response, what are you saying? That just because people hate you for being a pornographer then it's ok to be a real POS and do whatever it takes to screw them over just so you can make a quick buck and move on? Would you WANT someone tricking you or installing shit on your PC?
I just love how you guys all try to take the high road when we all know 99% of you would sell your souls for 50 joins a day.....you just do not get the opportunity to do it...
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I just love how you guys all try to take the high road when we all know 99% of you would sell your souls for 50 joins a day.....you just do not get the opportunity to do it...
You're probably right Jim. So?

Tell it straight. I think his point is that you're avoiding the simple answers, and trying to justify. Do you need to justify something? If it's no big deal then why all the runaround instead of just saying something like this:

"Yep, we are aware of how Moviepass operates and we don't feel there's anything wrong with it. The terms are clear enough for us and we'll continue to push it."

The bullshitting around and making up a thousand excuses seems to imply that you DO feel it's probably fucked up, but it's putting more money in your pockets so you're taking it regardless.
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I just love how you guys all try to take the high road when we all know 99% of you would sell your souls for 50 joins a day.....you just do not get the opportunity to do it...
why are you trying so hard to avoid the topic? I have nothing against Epic and I've never said anything bad about you or PD, so I don't know why you are starting to get so defensive. All I want is a straight answer.

PS. if i was one of the 99% that would sell their soul for money, I would probably have something else in my sig.
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You're probably right Jim. So?

Tell it straight. I think his point is that you're avoiding the simple answers, and trying to justify. Do you need to justify something? If it's no big deal then why all the runaround instead of just saying something like this:

"Yep, we are aware of how Moviepass operates and we don't feel there's anything wrong with it. The terms are clear enough for us and we'll continue to push it."

The bullshitting around and making up a thousand excuses seems to imply that you DO feel it's probably fucked up, but it's putting more money in your pockets so you're taking it regardless.
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You're probably right Jim. So?

Tell it straight. I think his point is that you're avoiding the simple answers, and trying to justify. Do you need to justify something? If it's no big deal then why all the runaround instead of just saying something like this:

"Yep, we are aware of how Moviepass operates and we don't feel there's anything wrong with it. The terms are clear enough for us and we'll continue to push it."

The bullshitting around and making up a thousand excuses seems to imply that you DO feel it's probably fucked up, but it's putting more money in your pockets so you're taking it regardless.

this has been addressed multiple times on here.

cleary we support the program or we wouldnt be using it. until its proven other wise that theya re infact doing anything illegal or hurting my affiliates and customers.

nothing to this day has been posted proving webmaster direct is doing anything illegal or hurting my business.

just cause a few tgp guys wont push us because of the exit console isnt going to change my mind LOLOLOLOLOL
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Is that your way to try to justify what moviepass does and your association with them?

This industry is indeed fucked up...shame cause you seemed a pretty standup (no phun intendeed)..
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you guys are still surprised when epic posts something like this? i mean isn't it obvious they have continuously tried to get a rise out of you for the sake of sig views? if you don't like the guys the best thing you could do is to not post at all. instead you help them everytime you bump a thread.

madddd props to epic fuckin marketting genius. im gonna start making threads about hanging blacks and burning jews guaranteed mad views.. lol
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madddd props to epic fuckin marketting genius. im gonna start making threads about hanging blacks and burning jews guaranteed mad views.. lol
i think thats nofxs job on this message board
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you guys are still surprised when epic posts something like this? i mean isn't it obvious they have continuously tried to get a rise out of you for the sake of sig views? if you don't like the guys the best thing you could do is to not post at all. instead you help them everytime you bump a thread.

madddd props to epic fuckin marketting genius. im gonna start making threads about hanging blacks and burning jews guaranteed mad views.. lol
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