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Old 05-21-2006, 04:51 AM   #1
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What do you think of Sponsors that do not allow

What do you think of Sponsors that do not allow Hotlinking to their banners?
Ones that say you must upload banners to you website and link to them.

Do you think thats being cheap and having double standards - "I want you to promote my website but I want you to use your own bandwidth to do so".
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Old 05-21-2006, 04:53 AM   #2
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If you don't want to host the banner, don't promote them. I think it's cool if they do host banners, but I don't shit a brick if they don't. As long as their sites convert, I'll gladly host a few banners.
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Old 05-21-2006, 04:53 AM   #3
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Yep, I'm all for allowing hotlinking to banners.


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Old 05-21-2006, 04:55 AM   #4
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I can see why they would'nt. I would'nt want thousands of people pulling the same image everyday all day
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Old 05-21-2006, 04:59 AM   #5
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Even if the sponsors allows hotlinking, i still host the banner myself... Helps to avoid some banner blockers...
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Old 05-21-2006, 05:01 AM   #6
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btw you got ICQ?
No I don't - honestly I don't even know what ICQ is!

Yeah, yeah, I know I can google and stuff, but there's so much more on my "To Google" list. You can email me though

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Old 05-21-2006, 05:41 AM   #7
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Old 05-21-2006, 05:49 AM   #8
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For certain types of promo it's quite common for the sponsor to host the banner themselves and allow you to hotlink it, like when they buy your sig for example.

But if I take it upon myself to sign up to a sponsor as an affiliate, I have never expected them to host the banners for me. If I want to use a particular banner I take it, put it on my own server and use it. Always have, except for the few sponsors who openly allow hotlinking, like for a "banner of the week" promo.

I wouldn't go presuming to expect it from everyone though, no.
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Old 05-21-2006, 05:54 AM   #9
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Old 05-21-2006, 05:59 AM   #10
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I recommend you host the banners your self. I guess I am a bit of a control freak and I like to as much control of my own page as I can.

Plus you don't want the page to load and have the surfer waiting on banners, how irritating! I've seen this way too often also.

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Old 05-21-2006, 06:32 AM   #11
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Old 05-21-2006, 06:34 AM   #12
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I always hot my own stuff the bandwith is so cheap it doesn't really matter. Except for geo-tracking ads of course
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:05 AM   #13
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why are you crying about hosting a banner, what a joke.
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:11 AM   #14
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Dude, it takes one minute to save/upload a banner and 10-40 KB of bandwith... what's the big deal in hosting it yourself?

If any major sponsor offered hosted banners, they'd end up being blocked by anyone with an ad-blocker installed and anyone who knows how to use Firefox's image blocker.
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Old 05-21-2006, 11:21 AM   #15
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What do you think of Sponsors that do not allow Hotlinking to their banners?
Ones that say you must upload banners to you website and link to them.

Do you think thats being cheap and having double standards - "I want you to promote my website but I want you to use your own bandwidth to do so".
You're kidding right? If it was a "traffic trade" and they wanted you to host your banner, as well as theirs, then THAT's B.S. - - but if it is an affiliate program where you get $$$$$$$$$$$$ for sending them traffic and making a sale - then you should just consider it a BONUS if they will host the banner also.

But I like to host the banner on my own server for the most part, anyway - to avoid slow page loads, etc...

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Old 05-21-2006, 11:23 AM   #16
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If you don't want to host the banner, don't promote them. I think it's cool if they do host banners, but I don't shit a brick if they don't. As long as their sites convert, I'll gladly host a few banners.
Same point for me.. A banner isn't a BW killer..
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Old 05-21-2006, 11:28 AM   #17
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If it was a rotating banner I could understand, but for the amount of BW you're using for a banner, why cheap out?

Its your job to promote companies, but they can't always give you everything on a silver platter. You gotta work for your money and sometimes there are expenses. So pay the 1$ or so a MONTH for the BW it takes to host a banner
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Old 05-21-2006, 11:33 AM   #18
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I think of those sponsors as smart.

The one and only time I tried a sponsors hotlinking banner, I found out 3 days after my free site was listed that it was removed because the sponsors server was slow and the banner images were broken.

That was 5 or 6 years ago.

Basically, every time you put part of your business in someone elses hands, it's a mistake.
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Old 05-21-2006, 11:40 AM   #19
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:02 PM   #20
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This is not only a bandwith question. What if there are some changes in the webmaster program and the banner urls changes?! Then everybody has to be notified! Nah... people should host them theirself... I mean, it doesnt mean anything to them bw wise!
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:03 PM   #21
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I think of those sponsors as smart.

The one and only time I tried a sponsors hotlinking banner, I found out 3 days after my free site was listed that it was removed because the sponsors server was slow and the banner images were broken.
ah... didn't see that before now! Exactly what I ment!
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I like hosting banners because you never know when a sponsor could change paths or delete certain banners.
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:42 PM   #23
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I am never happy using hotlinked banners. It is such a small expense to ensure your banners loads as fast as the rest of the site.
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If you can't afford to host a banner, then maybe you shouldn't be in this business. The "cost of entry" for this business is already shockingly low, so maybe at some point, we need to decide that there are just some people we don't want --like those unwilling to shell out the BW for a 20-30k banner.

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If you can't afford to host a banner, then maybe you shouldn't be in this business. The "cost of entry" for this business is already shockingly low, so maybe at some point, we need to decide that there are just some people we don't want --like those unwilling to shell out the BW for a 20-30k banner.

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Old 05-21-2006, 01:04 PM   #26
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What do you think of Sponsors that do not allow Hotlinking to their banners?
Ones that say you must upload banners to you website and link to them.

Do you think thats being cheap and having double standards - "I want you to promote my website but I want you to use your own bandwidth to do so".
Well, looking at the way the thread is going, let me clarify.

I have no problems either way, in fact on one of my sites which is in a work in progress (like all my sites, but thats another story) has several banners and all of them are uploaded to that site.

All major sponsors actuall allow hotlinking - I was just wondering then why the ones that don't are so anal about it.

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Old 05-21-2006, 01:06 PM   #27
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I don't care either way, usually they end up moving them and they all go 404 , so I always upload them to my own server anyway...
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we offer hosting so banners too, but most aff host their own, 10-20kb doesnt bother most
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we don't allow banner hotlinking! but our site convert ;)
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