Soul rebel: You honestly think they shot a missile to the Pentagon. And it flew for miles a few feet off the ground? During the day???

I dont know the Pentagon area but that honestly would be the most retarded action ive ever seen. The Pentagon isnt exactly in an empty desert.

And how do you explain the lightpoles (whatever the word in english is) knocked over on both sides of the road?

And where did the plane go? And the 60 people on board?

How did the plane pieces get there? They were planted there? While everybody was watching?

Why am I not surprised you dont believe the government...... lol

Screen name may give a hint lol

Wow...why are we arguing???

Cuz some of us would like the real culprits who murdered those people to pay for what they did...

Going to war has nothing to do with this...you can start 100's of wars for an array of stupid reasons, but that doesn't bring the people responsible for 9-11
to justice.
:2 cents:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/16.jpg

Thats a pretty fucking impressive landing gear, effectively plowing through 3 buildings.

Phoenix, all I can say is that I am glad you told me you made these comments just to fuck with people or I would think you were nuts.

i really dont care anymore at all


whos michael bush

Everyone did not have the advantage of that conversation


http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/...y=6190&Sport=1

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/football/..._mbush_all.jpg

Couldve been something else. I thought i read landing gear. Anyway, that was not the point i was trying to make.

the president DOESN'T have the right to enact war The CONGRESS does that at the presidents asking

i meant who is michale bush..as in he is goerge b ushs brother


if you dont know you arent qualified to make a statement in this thread

Soul rebel: How do you explain the pieces of plane found in and outside the building. Please tell me man.

the thing that i dont get is, with a place like the Pentagon wouldnt there be like 1000 cameras all around the compound, on the streets, everywhere around it?

i mean it is the fucking PENTAGON, and this is the best angle that they have? that just doest make sense to me.

or why would michael bush give the order to remove all bomb sniffing dogs from the world trade center a month before..and close down areas and only let his "made guys" into

franck and baddog dont even know who all the palyers are in this game..yet they stick to their guns steadfast...i wish i could live that simply

who cares about those pieces of the fucking plane....why aren't we going after whomever is behind this 9-11 mess...

I don't care if there's fucking space shuttle parts on the other side of the pentagon building

Oh, so you actually believe this crap?

if you dont know who michael bush is..then y ou shouldnt be offering opinions as you dont know the whole story

I would like to know why you seem to think he has a brother named Michael. Pretty closely guarded secret I guess. How come you were included in the circle of trust?

Phoenix...this is like being on the O'really factor at this point

What about the director of the WTC who a week before 9/11 had all the lights on the south side of the building changed out with higher wattage bulbs, as if to point out which side to hit? And the archetects that said due to the foundation bedrock, the south side was the side retaining most of the weight of the building, thus would be best to take out.

And don't forget the "homeless looking" man who was reported to have stolen at least 3 tourist's camcorders around the area of the Pentagon immediately after the explosions!!!

Biography of Bush, Sr. includes: Bush next turned his energies toward completing his education and raising a family. In January 1945 he married Barbara Pierce. They had six children-- George, Robin (who died as a child), John (known as Jeb), Neil, Marvin, and Dorothy.

Biography of Bush, Jr.: Siblings: 3 brothers, 2 sisters
John (Jeb), Neil, Marvin, Robin, Dorothy. Brother Jeb is currently the Governor of Florida. Sister Robin died of leukemia in 1953 at the age three.

Their parent compagnise in teh coporation make so much from the wars ...

my BAD it is Marvin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_fa...spiracy_theory

im going to go with franck on this one

id give up if i didnt actually care about people in general

Aint that amazing .... You go to renew your driver license and you will be " captured " by at least 20 cameras ....

No cameras on top of the building looking out ...

But Frank has an answer: the painted landing gear destroyed them all ....

People believed that Iraq had WMD and could launch a biological attack within 15 minutes .... Didn't you believe that ?

So ...

Yeah..but it's getting pretty hard to give a damn about that 29%

Okay, now that I have your attention, just where is your proof that there were ever dog sniffing dogs at the WTC, much less that Marvin had them removed?

Along that line, are you suggesting that airliners did not crash into the WTC? Are you suggesting that Marvin had them (the bomb sniffing dogs) removed so they would not be harmed when the airliners crashed into the WTC?

What exactly is your point? Do they have really good drugs where you live? How do space aliens fit into your scenario?

Between 1993 and 2000, Marvin Bush, President Bush's brother was a principal in a company that provided security for both The World Trade Center and United Airlines. According to an article by David Ray Griffin "from 1999 to January of 2002 their cousin Wirt Walker III was the CEO "[126] . According to its president CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down". This last statement has been used by some conspiracy theorists to say that the contract "expired" on September 11, 2001. Barbara Bush confirmed this theory in her book 'Reflections' also stating 9/11 was the day the contract expired. Mr. Bush was also a former director and now is an advisor to the board of directors to a firm HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc that had what it called a small participation in the World Trade Center property insurance coverage and some of the surrounding buildings. [127] Marvin Bush was on a subway under Wall Street when the attacks happened.

moving the gold out...i saw this movie..die hard 3

you are becoming more then annoying..im not going to do research for you.

no bomb sniffing dogs at the WTC? are you fuckin for real?
the planes sure as shit hit the WTC

well there is no way in hell they wouldnt have the film backed up somewhere. i mean there had to be at least 100 cameras all around the pentagon at a single time, i mean it has to be a compound of some sorts, cameras would be everywhere.

What extra they actually released yesterday ???????


http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/video.html

Franck is quite willing to believe that video shows a passenger jet and that some landing gear or something else (but oh no not a missile) caused the other hole yet he refuses to believe that KRL can communicate telepathically with his pets.

I love it. carry on... please carry on. :thumbsup :1orglaugh :thumbsup :1orglaugh :thumbsup :1orglaugh

I totally agree.

That video proves nothing.

Bush wasn't working for the WTC at that point, not since 2000. The person that was doing that job died in the attack. Also:
25. Claim: Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the World Trade Center only days before the attack.

Truth: Security was actually increased for a couple of weeks; this ?removal? was just security returning to normal.

if you think that is a damn boeing 757... I can sell you the moon for $199 No s & h

ICQ254-460-615

Proof that it was a 757

I haven't seen a single conspiracy theorist who has any sort of idea how logic and critical scientific theory work. There is no point in debating people who don't understand rules of logic and evidence. You'll never change their minds, it's like trying to tell a savage from the Congo that the sun isn't a demon, it ain't going to work.

logic, critical scientific theory, and religion... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

LOL\.....

Yes, it would have been so awfull for the survivors to hear the take over of the pilots and maybe the scream of god of the terrorists ...

Obviously, the Flight 93 families don't deserve the same regards ....

Wow, they can orchestrate all this... and yet they can't even get the date-stamp right on the video. And they can't even plant the correct airplane parts at the scene of the missile impact. And they can't even remember to leave explosive residue all over the place.

thtat doesnt sound so unrealistic franck , cept they didnt plant the pieces.

they made the missile appear to be a plane.

Personally , the evidence to me is so inconslusive its laughable. it doesnt really point to anything at all..

A few things need closer attention though .. like i havent seen anyone come forward to i.d. the engines in the pentagon rubble as the ngines from the aircraft it was supposed to be on. On the contrary every report i have heard suggests the gnines were from a completely different type of aircraft..

But those details are so strange/misrepresented that its unclear of what to believe and what not to believe..

Some things are alot easier to understand.. like . EVERY 7-11 in the country has better camera surveilance than the pentagon appears to have..

Where are the other videos?

Then the excuse about not releasing the video . the video is like 2 more frames of the same video we have already seen. So why exactly haven't we been alowed to see it ? Oh i forgot it might influence the jurors in that 9/11 terrorists trials .. LOL cmon now who is being naive

The most entertaining part of this whole discussion is this irony:

The people who truly believe the conspiracy 'dogma' (thats what it is..) think they THEY are the ones who are thinking critically.

When in fact, it is the very LACK of critical thought that gives rise to the dogma :)

wtf....??? :disgust

You are out of your element here in regard to the "mechanics" of flying, how a missle is launched and propelled, why the two don't have much in common.

So wait...you believe the missile theory.

Uhm so 1: the missile exploded and caused huge damage to the building but at the same time you are saying it left the building through that hole? Wait..im confused. Tell me what that hole is then.

all the drama

Ok you fucking idiots, stop all your BS for a minute and simply answer this:

HOW did the plane parts get in and around the building. Please before you continue your idiot theories about missiles answer that first.

Fucking retards.

And the lightpoles on either side of the street that got knocked over.

Answer simple stuff like that.

Again... Why was no explosive residue found?